Talk me out of an older polished Taurus

[brokeasajoke]

Well we've talked about this before on a 44 mag. I went to LGS and there lays a older polished Taurus in .454 casull. Price is $975 (also an H&R 32short for $200). Back to the Taurus, have the guys really gone that high? Looking at the newer sleeved raging series and newer 454 gun he's not too far out. Like I need a 454 as I have no use because it seems I actually spend more time on gun websites than with guns in my hands(just being honest) and I've yet to dial in the Taurus 44mag I purchased this past fall.

[Thumbcocker]

Talk someone out of buying a gun? There are some lines I just won't cross.

[brokeasajoke]

Talk someone out of buying a gun? There are some lines I just won't cross.

Bwahahahahahaha. True

[MrWolf]

Talk someone out of buying a gun? There are some lines I just won't cross.

Yup. You are on your own. Currently considering two more (not Taurus) I don't need but that argument never works.

[brokeasajoke]

Then I have to buy all the reloading stuff too.

[sundog]

Not as bad as having all the reloading and casting stuff before having or building the launcher!

[beemer]

Then I have to buy all the reloading stuff too.

That can be a deciding factor these days. I don't need anything but as long as I an able to get around I will see something I like. There are a couple things I would like now, they can be had in a caliber that I already load for.

Talk you out of a new gun, sorry, no help from from this side. Can I shoot it ?

[brokeasajoke]

That can be a deciding factor these days. I don't need anything but as long as I an able to get around I will see something I like. There are a couple things I would like now, they can be had in a caliber that I already load for.

Talk you out of a new gun, sorry, no help from from this side. Can I shoot it ?

Sure if I get it. Looks like I'm not far from you.

[45workhorse]

You always need, "just one more!"

I know no help!

[brokeasajoke]

It's hard to justify that kind of money for a Taurus and I own them. They may fall apart tomorrow but are working well now. Maybe too much internet chatter.

[Bigslug]

Taurus burned their bridges with me back in the early 2000's. The shop I was working in at the time had to return a couple customer's revolvers to Florida, and rather than repair them, we were told that they were "irreparable" and the customer was given the option of buying a replacement at a discounted rate. So basically, the customer was out Ruger or S&W money without the benefit of owning a Ruger or S&W for their trouble - AND, California being California, they had a new serial number to register and wait ten days for.

I can only assume that process was due to customs delays in getting parts from Brazil to Florida, but it seemed like a really sleazy bait-and-switch on their widely-publicized Lifetime Warranty. As a result, our shop discontinued carrying the brand rather than further alienate our customers.

I've always said that even the best companies produce occasional duds, and what separates the good companies from the bad is how they handle their own mess. Perhaps Taurus' practices have improved in the last 20 years, but damage done on this kid - I wouldn't touch one with a thirty foot cleaning rod. Especially not for a thousand bucks, and especially not when Ruger wouldn't even care who the original owner was if it needed fixing.

I don't soapbox much, but I DO hold a grudge.

[brokeasajoke]

Taurus burned their bridges with me back in the early 2000's. The shop I was working in at the time had to return a couple customer's revolvers to Florida, and rather than repair them, we were told that they were "irreparable" and the customer was given the option of buying a replacement at a discounted rate. So basically, the customer was out Ruger or S&W money without the benefit of owning a Ruger or S&W for their trouble - AND, California being California, they had a new serial number to register and wait ten days for.

I can only assume that process was due to customs delays in getting parts from Brazil to Florida, but it seemed like a really sleazy bait-and-switch on their widely-publicized Lifetime Warranty. As a result, our shop discontinued carrying the brand rather than further alienate our customers.

I've always said that even the best companies produce occasional duds, and what separates the good companies from the bad is how they handle their own mess. Perhaps Taurus' practices have improved in the last 20 years, but damage done on this kid - I wouldn't touch one with a thirty foot cleaning rod. Especially not for a thousand bucks, and especially not when Ruger wouldn't even care who the original owner was if it needed fixing.

I don't soapbox much, but I DO hold a grudge.

Some things just leave a sour taste in you mouth.

[Winger Ed.]

Like I need a 454

As Marlon Brando would have said in the movie "The Freshman" with Matthew Broderick when he was shocked
and confronted Marlon B. for doing something illegal:

Brando would have said,
"Need is such an ugly word. We try not to use it".

[Der Gebirgsjager]

I wouldn't try talking you out of buying one of the older polished ss revolvers! I had a friend, now deceased, who cherished a Taurus 44 Mag. 4" that he always brought along when we went shooting. He, I, and our third friend all agreed that it was a fine revolver, very well made, and accurate. A .454 Casull can also use .45 Colt, so there's another enticement.

Back in the '80s, as a dealer I sold many Taurus revolvers. Their Model 66 .357 was a good seller, and I never had one come back, but the difference in the tightness of the cylinder lockup compared to an S&W Mod. 19 was noticeable. There was cylinder wiggle on the Taurus, and none on the Smith. I had to phone Taurus about something unrelated, but mentioned it to their head man in the U.S.A. He was very interested and asked me why I thought that condition existed. I told him that I thought the cylinder locking bolts weren't fitted tightly enough to the cylinder locking slots. Probably because they paid the assemblers by piece work. I was a bit surprised a week later when I got a coin envelope full of locking bolts in the mail. I did fit a couple to new revolvers prior to their sale, and they were then as tight as Smiths. I've still got several of the parts. Later guns did not seem to have the problem. Like a lot of gun companies they went through a quality control episode that seemed to be corrected, and I don't hear many complaints about their products now days.

DG

[beemer]

I have several and had several Taurus revolvers and and find them serviceable. The biggest problem I had was weak cylinder lock bolt springs. They are not a S&W or a Ruger. One of the best 44 mag revolvers I have shot was a Taurus made back in the 90's. Personally I don't care for a 44 mag but I would have liked to have owned that one.

[Markopolo]

How about this!!!!

don’t do it!!!!!

Well, I tried.. I think you are asking the wrong group of guys…

I am on the hook for 3 guns I prolly could have lived without already this month… Butttt.. I wanted em…

Marko

[brokeasajoke]

It's not the gun it's the $975 for a Taurus. Yes it's .454 yes is the polished but...

[Mk42gunner]

My experience with Taurus guns: If you get a good one, it will last. If you get a bad one, it will sour you on the brand for years. I've had both.

I will add that the only guns I have sold (other than a Stevens Miserable Loader) without a speck of seller's remorse were Tuarus/ Rossi guns.

Robert

[brokeasajoke]

I'm in manufacturing. Stuff happens, it's how they take care of it that matters to me.

[6string]

Taurus burned their bridges with me back in the early 2000's. The shop I was working in at the time had to return a couple customer's revolvers to Florida, and rather than repair them, we were told that they were "irreparable" and the customer was given the option of buying a replacement at a discounted rate. So basically, the customer was out Ruger or S&W money without the benefit of owning a Ruger or S&W for their trouble - AND, California being California, they had a new serial number to register and wait ten days for.

I can only assume that process was due to customs delays in getting parts from Brazil to Florida, but it seemed like a really sleazy bait-and-switch on their widely-publicized Lifetime Warranty. As a result, our shop discontinued carrying the brand rather than further alienate our customers.

I've always said that even the best companies produce occasional duds, and what separates the good companies from the bad is how they handle their own mess. Perhaps Taurus' practices have improved in the last 20 years, but damage done on this kid - I wouldn't touch one with a thirty foot cleaning rod. Especially not for a thousand bucks, and especially not when Ruger wouldn't even care who the original owner was if it needed fixing.

I don't soapbox much, but I DO hold a grudge.

This is the message I try to pass on to friends when they ask me about buying a Taurus.

Their business is built on planned obsolescence.
They don't sell spare parts, so even what would be a simple fix is not. If the gun is discontinued, it's without factory support. At that point, it's basically a "metal discount coupon", if you send it back to the company.
For all intent and purpose, a Taurus is no different, really, than all the other cheap, disposable products that you buy, use, and toss.

For $975 or $9.75, I don't want one. Too much junk cluttering up the house as it is!

[brokeasajoke]

This is the message I try to pass on to friends when they ask me about buying a Taurus.

Their business is built on planned obsolescence.
They don't sell spare parts, so even what would be a simple fix is not. If the gun is discontinued, it's without factory support. At that point, it's basically a "metal discount coupon", if you send it back to the company.
For all intent and purpose, a Taurus is no different, really, than all the other cheap, disposable products that you buy, use, and toss.

For $975 or $9.75, I don't want one. Too much junk cluttering up the house as it is!

So they sell you a new one at what's probably their cost and never lose any money? Well that's just pitiful customer service. Things happen make it right. Takes a while lot of shooting to wear out a revolver. I've never put that many through one but one would expect available repair parts when it happens.

[FergusonTO35]

I stick with the products Taurus has been making for decades, the .38 and .357 revolvers and the G2/G3 which are descended from the Millenium Pro. Otherwise, fuhgedaboutit.

[jdgabbard]

No way would I spend that amount on a Taurus....

Now, I personally like the one Taurus I have. An Model 85 Ultralight from about 15-20 years ago. It's compact, lightweight, fairly accurate (as accurate as I can be with such a light small gun with a short barrel). I wouldn't trust it with super heavy +P loads, but it works well enough as a belly gun when I want something light. But I bought it for something like $275, and think it's probably worth about the same new in today's market.

I feel basically the same way about Rossi Revolvers. I think they may be made by the same folks, or possibly were made by the same... Either way, I had a 357mag snub nose from them back in the early 2000s that I REALLY liked. I ended up trading it on something else, but wish I would have kept it. I think I paid about $350-400 for it, and it was all steel with a very nice blue finish. Handled well, and shot well. That said, we've all got those guns we wish we would have held onto, so I won't get further off topic.

Point I guess I'm trying to make is, guns are only worth what they're worth. Sure some people might value a particular gun at more. But when you can buy a better brand at the cost of just a little more, by settle for a budget brand?

[tigweldit]

I've had good luck with Taurus. I put over 100,000 rounds through a PT99. Never a glitch. My Raging Bull .454 has approximately 2,500 full power loads through it. Great accuracy and no problems.

[castmiester]

Back in 09, I bought my first handgun, a M66 Taurus. At the time the shop I bought it from stopped selling Taurus. The one I bought was the last one. After some research I called and asked him about issues with Taurus. He said, too many were sent back, but the revolvers are ok. Based on the model 19 Smith, how could they go wrong ? I haven't shot it alot, and haven't had any issues other than things I am working to improve. Is it necessary for home/self defense, no but I play with accuracy. It's more then shooting, it's pursuit of the mechanics, handloading etc.....

[brokeasajoke]

I have a $275 gift certificate to the gun shop. I guess I could use it to buy his over priced powder. I've been waiting for him to get a used Dillon 550 but haven't seen one go through in a while as he trades a lot on used items.

[Arkansas Paul]

I'm not opposed to owning a Taurus, in fact I do have one.
But no way on God's green earth I'm spending a grand on one.

[sukivel]

It's not the gun it's the $975 for a Taurus. Yes it's .454 yes is the polished but...

You already realize that’s too much…


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[sukivel]

I'm not opposed to owning a Taurus, in fact I do have one.
But no way on God's green earth I'm spending a grand on one.

Exactly…


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[FergusonTO35]

I like Taurus as a good low cost gun in a common caliber that usually works quite well. The gun in question definitely does not have the first two characteristics and may not have the third either. A lot of folks like the sub-200.00 Sccy pistols we sell at work, and they seem to be acceptable for what they cost and their intended use. But that doesn't mean that Sccy is ready to, or even should, come out with a Colt Python competitor or even police duty pistol for that matter. They would be in way over their head if they did so, and I think Taurus has done this with many of their non-core product line offerings.

[Finster101]

Never owned a Taurus. Not planning on owning one either, especially for a grand.

[brokeasajoke]

I like Taurus as a good low cost gun in a common caliber that usually works quite well. The gun in question definitely does not have the first two characteristics and may not have the third either. A lot of folks like the sub-200.00 Sccy pistols we sell at work, and they seem to be acceptable for what they cost and their intended use. But that doesn't mean that Sccy is ready to, or even should, come out with a Colt Python competitor or even police duty pistol for that matter. They would be in way over their head if they did so, and I think Taurus has done this with many of their non-core product line offerings.
Maybe that's the reason it is there and maybe there is another reason. How long has Taurus been making the current sand blasted type finish vs the polished?

[castmiester]

I'm not opposed to owning a Taurus, in fact I do have one.
But no way on God's green earth I'm spending a grand on one.

I hear that ! Sad part is I paid 400 buck 15 years ago and now it more than doubled for the same gun, and I'm sure the QC has gone down considerably.

[FergusonTO35]

I hear that ! Sad part is I paid 400 buck 15 years ago and now it more than doubled for the same gun, and I'm sure the QC has gone down considerably.

I've owned several late model Taurus guns and they were all good to go, currently have a 2023 856 revolver and like it very much. None of mine have been worse than S&W or Ruger from the same era. Now, my Taurus products have all been .38 Special revolvers and subcompact 9mm pistols, which are Taurus' best products and they have been making them for decades.

[FergusonTO35]

Maybe that's the reason it is there and maybe there is another reason. How long has Taurus been making the current sand blasted type finish vs the polished?

I remember the matte finished guns being available in the early 2000's, maybe before. Taurus also used to have a blued finish that was sort of between matte and gloss that I really liked. Taurus has quite often offered both matte and polished finishes at the same time.

[MT Gianni]

It is still a Taurus, If you buy a new one you have a return policy and a warranty. With used you don't have that. Out of the 77 Taurus 454 on Gunbroker there is only one more expensive than the price quoted and that by $10.

[brokeasajoke]

It is still a Taurus, If you buy a new one you have a return policy and a warranty. With used you don't have that. Out of the 77 Taurus 454 on Gunbroker there is only one more expensive than the price quoted and that by $10.

Most of them I see are those shrouded variations. While nothing wrong with them, they just aren't something I'm interested in.

[TNsailorman]

local guy is advertising a Taurus Tracker in .44 magnum for $500.00. james

[brokeasajoke]

local guy is advertising a Taurus .44 magnum for $500.00.
I pickrd up a Taurus 44 8 3/8 new for $670 last year plus the sight mount and Burris sight.
323135

[brokeasajoke]

Well someone bought it, not me though.he does have a gp100 in 327fed 2" barrel maybe. I might price it.

[sukivel]

Well someone bought it, not me though.he does have a gp100 in 327fed 2" barrel maybe. I might price it.

That sounds interesting!


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[Bazoo]

GP100 in 327 sounds like fun to me!