HENRY SINGLE SHOT 360 BuckHammer

[murf205]

I just got off the phone and the very knowledgeable lady I spoke with said that the walnut/blue single shot rifles in 360 REM would be available in the spring. The twist rate will be 1:16". If CVA wont build us one, I will buy a Henry. I like wood anyway.

[Pereira]

Hard to not like blued steel and walnut.
Wish they offered them in 38-55 as they make a lever gun in the cal.

RP

[GrizzLeeBear]

You sure about the twist rate. The lever action 360 is listed as 1 in 12 (I haven't measured mine). I don't know why they would change to a 1 in 16 for the single shot?

[murf205]

I wouldn't think they would change a twist rate just for a single shot but that's what the lady at Henry told me. When I specifically asked that that question, she said let me look that up. After a pause, she stated 1:16". Not to disparage her but she might have mis read what she was looking at. The Henry website says 1:12". How does yours shoot?

[NSB]

You’ll be absolutely fine with a 1:16 twist regardless what the website says. That’s a fast enough twist for heavy or light bullets. My only comment about this cartridge is that it may go the way of the Dodo bird in a year or two. Finding loaded ammo and/or cases may be difficult. Seems like the ammo and gun companies are on a binge to bring everyone the newest, and best thing out there…..even if it isn’t much different that what we already have. Just something to think about.

[BigAl52]

All the more reason to make one in 38-55

[murf205]

As long as there is 30-30 brass, there will be ammo for handloaders willing to do make it. Might be a little more trouble. 38-55 is never a bad idea either.

[GrizzLeeBear]

I haven't gotten out to shoot mine yet, but I have made almost 200 cases from 30-30 brass. It's no more difficult than 30 or 357 Herrett, 300 Blackout, 7mm TCU or 8mm (from 30-06), all of which I have done in the past. Being able to make it out of a common caliber is what attracted me to the 360 vs the 350 Legend for something I can hunt with in the Michigan's Limited Firearm Zone (plus I wanted a lever gun and not another AR upper).

[Gray Fox]

I would jump on the .38-55 like a duck on a June bug. I have one in .308 that has one of the finest triggers I've shot, and the wood is pretty nice, too. I suppose if the barrel were thick enough, JES could rebore and rechamber it to .358 Win with a long throat. GF

[murf205]

I was surfing the Midway and Midsouth Shooters Supply sites and I sure am glad to cast boolits. Those jacketed things are crazy expensive. Maybe it's because I bought them for $12-$15 a box years ago. It also might be that 35 cal stuff doesn't sell as much as 30 cal and smaller.

[FergusonTO35]

Yes, sign me up for a .38-55! Love my H015 .45-70.

[cwlongshot]

I just got off the phone and the very knowledgeable lady I spoke with said that the walnut/blue single shot rifles in 360 REM would be available in the spring. The twist rate will be 1:16". If CVA wont build us one, I will buy a Henry. I like wood anyway.


My issue is Henry stocks are NOT SCOPE
FRIENDLY. They have FAR TOO
MUCH drop.

I love the look and workmanship. NOT THE ERGOS.

CW

[Pereira]

I would jump on the .38-55 like a duck on a June bug. I have one in .308 that has one of the finest triggers I've shot, and the wood is pretty nice, too. I suppose if the barrel were thick enough, JES could rebore and rechamber it to .358 Win with a long throat. GF

I contacted JES and asked about reboring the 30-30 to 38-55, and his response was it was doable.

RP

[Pereira]

My issue is Henry stocks are NOT SCOPE
FRIENDLY. They have FAR TOO
MUCH drop.

I love the look and workmanship. NOT THE ERGOS.

CW

I've yet to shoulder one so I didn't know this.

RP

[murf205]

My issue is Henry stocks are NOT SCOPE
FRIENDLY. They have FAR TOO
MUCH drop.

I love the look and workmanship. NOT THE ERGOS.

CW

Since it has no bolt handle to clear, lowest rings would work as long as you don't use a scope with a soup can bell on it, I am guessing. I would like to shoulder one before I spring for it. If it is too bad, I still have a 30-30 Marlin/Glenfield model 30 with the 1/2 mag that JES could work his magic on...if he has a 360 reamer. I just wish the dang 30-30 wasn't so accurate! Shouldn't have shot the donor. The Marlins have a pretty good drop in the stock as well.

[murf205]

I would jump on the .38-55 like a duck on a June bug. I have one in .308 that has one of the finest triggers I've shot, and the wood is pretty nice, too. I suppose if the barrel were thick enough, JES could rebore and rechamber it to .358 Win with a long throat. GF

I have pondered using a 243 CVA Scout to make a 358 win with JES since CVA doesn't make a 30-30. But I would have more than the cost of a Henry involved in buying a CVA and having JES rebore it.

[Pereira]

I spoke with a friend who has one in 357 with a red dot and he thinks it's perfect.
I'll look for one to shoulder, but the only two calibers that would interest me would be a 38-55 or a 444.
Which I wouldn't hold my breath for the later, especially with the problems I've heard from several 44 mag Henry owners have been having.
The 38-55 would be an easy conversion, but I'm sure I could find an H&R 1891 in 38-55 for less. And less trouble.

RP

[popper]

my scoped Long Ranger works fine. And it has a large bell.

[cwlongshot]

The Lone range is designed for optics. Does it even come with open sites?

Of coarse we are all a little different in build and how we preferr to shoulder and hold a rifle.

I have a high cherk bone and can get "down" more then some exacerbating the cut of such stocks.

CW

[popper]

2 versions, one with irons. Guess maybe it's me as Marlin 336 wears a scope also.

[cwlongshot]

Yea the Marlins do not have as much Drop as Winchesters. Henrys copy Winchester... So drop allot.

CW

[FergusonTO35]

My issue is Henry stocks are NOT SCOPE
FRIENDLY. They have FAR TOO
MUCH drop.

I love the look and workmanship. NOT THE ERGOS.

CW

My Henry seems to work well with either one, it is the standard blue model. Planning to put a Leupold FX 2.5x20 in QR mounts on it.

[NSB]

My Henry seems to work well with either one, it is the standard blue model. Planning to put a Leupold FX 2.5x20 in QR mounts on it.
Just a suggestion on your scope choice: the FX 2.5 is a great scope, I’ve got a couple of them. However, for a cartridge like the 350L, 360, or the 357max I believe there is a better option. Take a look at the Leupold Twilight Hunter 1.5-5 with a CDS dial. I bought two of these last year and for deer hunting they can’t be beat. If you know your muzzle velocity (actual for best results) you can adjust the dial for any distance and they are basically spot on. The adjustable lighted center dot on the reticle is fantastic for early morning or late afternoon shooting. I shot a deer this year at a measured 214 yards and hit right where I was aiming. I’ve shot a few last year using this same model scope on my 358Win and have one on my 45-70. You can get one from Scopelist.com for about a hundred bucks less than MRSP. Not much more than the FX scope.

[cwlongshot]

I am REALLY enjoying a modified duplex where too strada is missing and a tiny illuminated dot is added to reticule. Just as perfect a hunting setup as I could imagion for close to med range shots in thick dark timber.

CW

[Gray Fox]

The .308 single shot I traded for was scoped with a Vortex 3-9 and has a Bradley adjustable cheek rest installed. It works very well and I'm considering it for a couple of other rifles. Costs about $125. This is important if your rear scope bell needs taller rings to give access to the hammer, even with a hammer offset attached. GF

[murf205]

I am REALLY enjoying a modified duplex where too strada is missing and a tiny illuminated dot is added to reticule. Just as perfect a hunting setup as I could imagion for close to med range shots in thick dark timber.

CW

I like that reticle too. Vortex makes one with the lighted dot in the middle of the duplex for and my LGS has them for $200 but it is a 30 mm and it weighs a solid 1 lb. I am in the same boat as NSB with the lower powered 2.5x but the 1-4x Leupolds would work for me IF they had a standard duplex. I tried a Pig Plex and the center of the reticle disappears against a dark target. I have considered a 4x Rimfire with a duplex since they are recoil tested to the same test as big rifle scopes. The 75 yd parallax correction does not matter to me that much since most of my shooting/hunting is 100yds or less. The old 4x compact Leupolds sell for more than a new one nowdays....if you can find one for sale.

[hc18flyer]

I have a Leupold 4x Compact on my .357 Max Henry. I think I paid $175. for it used at a Gun Show? I have thought about a low powered variable, but the 4x works pretty darn good. I haven't noticed an issue with the drop in the stock? hc18flyer

[murf205]

I have a Leupold 4x Compact on my .357 Max Henry. I think I paid $175. for it used at a Gun Show? I have thought about a low powered variable, but the 4x works pretty darn good. I haven't noticed an issue with the drop in the stock? hc18flyer

Burris made some pretty good compact scopes a while back. They would be the cat's meow for a single shot especially when they are chambered for a round that has a rainbow trajectory. At the public range I go to sometimes, I see people with 30-30's and 44 mag rifles with huge scopes. I know that us lower powered and compact scope admirers are in the vast minority so it's easy to understand manufacturers making huge scopes. Maybe they know something we don't. I can imagine the difficulty using a short eye relief high powered scope on rifles like CW said with lots of stock drop.

[Gray Fox]

I just found the Leupold mounts and rings and put a Leupold copy of the 2.5x Lyman Alaskan on my Browning 1885 .45-70. I've bore-sighted it at 50 yards, but have yet to get to the range. I've got one of the Uncle Mike's cartridge butt sleeves on it and I've scrunched a piece of 3/4" foam pipe insulation under the top edge which gives me just the right height for the center of the scope. It's kind of strange, but on the "bay" that set of mounts, rings, and scope would bring almost as much as the rifle itself. GF

[FergusonTO35]

Just a suggestion on your scope choice: the FX 2.5 is a great scope, I’ve got a couple of them. However, for a cartridge like the 350L, 360, or the 357max I believe there is a better option. Take a look at the Leupold Twilight Hunter 1.5-5 with a CDS dial. I bought two of these last year and for deer hunting they can’t be beat. If you know your muzzle velocity (actual for best results) you can adjust the dial for any distance and they are basically spot on. The adjustable lighted center dot on the reticle is fantastic for early morning or late afternoon shooting. I shot a deer this year at a measured 214 yards and hit right where I was aiming. I’ve shot a few last year using this same model scope on my 358Win and have one on my 45-70. You can get one from Scopelist.com for about a hundred bucks less than MRSP. Not much more than the FX scope.

Thanks, will check that out. My Henry is a .45-70 that only sees Unique powered Trapdoor loads, so not sure it would really benefit from something like that.

[jjamna]

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/single-shot-rifle/?utm_source=Henry+Repeating+Arms+Consumers&utm_campaign=dd68495717-New+for+2024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-dd68495717-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&mc_cid=dd68495717&mc_eid=2ad370ed7b

[murf205]

https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/single-shot-rifle/?utm_source=Henry+Repeating+Arms+Consumers&utm_campaign=dd68495717-New+for+2024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-dd68495717-%5BLIST_EMAIL_ID%5D&mc_cid=dd68495717&mc_eid=2ad370ed7b

I just got an email from them stating the same thing. I am looking for one right now if I don't have to pay scalped prices.

[FergusonTO35]

Just sent Henry a suggestion about a single shot .38-55 and also a muzzleloader built on the same action.

[FergusonTO35]

In a semi-related vein, I believe that if Henry is going to do an inline muzzleloader they need to make it smokeless proofed. It would be a huge leg up on the competition. The fact that we are still stuck using BP or pricey subs in nearly all of today's technologically advanced caseless front loading centerfire rifles is just bogus. Many of today's inline only loads with subs are well into smokeless pressure level anyway. I finally capitulated and put a small scope on my inline, after the deer beat me by staying outside the range where I'm comfortable using sights. May as well use smokeless powder while I'm at it, if my rifle could do it.

[NSB]

I went through the whole smokeless ML process. I had a Savage ML2 and spent three years doing everything in the book to it. I ended up putting an aftermarket Shilen barrel on it from Arrrowhead and did the sabotless thing shooting jacketed bullets sized to fit the barrel, etc. It shot good, but in the end it wasn’t any more effective than my TC Encore. Today I’m shooting a CVA in-line that’s a 1moa gun shooting a 295g Barnes bullet at around 1900 fps with Blackhorn209. I shot two deer with it this year well over a hundred yards. One was 175. Last year I shot one over 200 yards. I don’t know anyone with two eyes and ten fingers who’s shooting non-smokeless in-lines at smokeless pressure. You need to understand the design of these guns (breech plug to barrel) and what the actual differences are in pressure. To extend your range a range finder is necessary as well as a something like a Leupold CDS dial or mil dot scope. You don’t really gain much going smokeless over a good black powder sub gun like the CVA. Two friends of mine bought the CVA’s and I was amazed at how well they shot with a factory 2lb trigger and a Bergara barrel. Unbelievable! I bought one on the spot after watching them and sold the TC barrel.

[FergusonTO35]

I went through the whole smokeless ML process. I had a Savage ML2 and spent three years doing everything in the book to it. I ended up putting an aftermarket Shilen barrel on it from Arrrowhead and did the sabotless thing shooting jacketed bullets sized to fit the barrel, etc. It shot good, but in the end it wasn’t any more effective than my TC Encore. Today I’m shooting a CVA in-line that’s a 1moa gun shooting a 295g Barnes bullet at around 1900 fps with Blackhorn209. I shot two deer with it this year well over a hundred yards. One was 175. Last year I shot one over 200 yards. I don’t know anyone with two eyes and ten fingers who’s shooting non-smokeless in-lines at smokeless pressure. You need to understand the design of these guns (breech plug to barrel) and what the actual differences are in pressure. To extend your range a range finder is necessary as well as a something like a Leupold CDS dial or mil dot scope. You don’t really gain much going smokeless over a good black powder sub gun like the CVA. Two friends of mine bought the CVA’s and I was amazed at how well they shot with a factory 2lb trigger and a Bergara barrel. Unbelievable! I bought one on the spot after watching them and sold the TC barrel.

Respectfully, I would never suggest amateur experimentation with smokeless powder in any gun not made for it. Also, what I mean in my comment about pressure is that many inline loads with subs are past 30k psi, meaning past blackpowder and into the lower pressure rifle cartridges. I didn't mean to imply that they are over 60k or anything like that. My desire to use smokeless is not performance but simple practicality: I already have a variety of smokeless powders on the shelf and cleanup is easier. I agree that BH209 is everything it's cracked up to be. It also costs about four times as much as common smokeless powders and isn't suitable for sidelocks. If I have to use a BP sub (as I do now with Pyrodex P), I want it to be sidelock compatible. I'm not interested in spending what amounts to $120.00 a pound on a special powder that only one rifle can use, I don't even do that for my favorite bughole group rifles. I would rather just continue the status quo and use a much lower cost BP sub in all my muzzleloaders, even if cleaning and corrosion prevention is more of a hassle.

[FergusonTO35]

Anybody know of a Weaver style rail for Henry single shots that is short enough to allow the rear sight to remain in place? I could cut the front of a Weaver H&R base, but wondering if there is one that doesn't require that.

[murf205]

I went through the whole smokeless ML process. I had a Savage ML2 and spent three years doing everything in the book to it. I ended up putting an aftermarket Shilen barrel on it from Arrrowhead and did the sabotless thing shooting jacketed bullets sized to fit the barrel, etc. It shot good, but in the end it wasn’t any more effective than my TC Encore. Today I’m shooting a CVA in-line that’s a 1moa gun shooting a 295g Barnes bullet at around 1900 fps with Blackhorn209. I shot two deer with it this year well over a hundred yards. One was 175. Last year I shot one over 200 yards. I don’t know anyone with two eyes and ten fingers who’s shooting non-smokeless in-lines at smokeless pressure. You need to understand the design of these guns (breech plug to barrel) and what the actual differences are in pressure. To extend your range a range finder is necessary as well as a something like a Leupold CDS dial or mil dot scope. You don’t really gain much going smokeless over a good black powder sub gun like the CVA. Two friends of mine bought the CVA’s and I was amazed at how well they shot with a factory 2lb trigger and a Bergara barrel. Unbelievable! I bought one on the spot after watching them and sold the TC barrel.

I have yet to hear about a bad shooting CVA rifle--ML or center fire. I just wish they made a 357 Scout (I could turn into a Maximum) or a 360 BuckHammer. I know...they make a 350 Legend but I really don't want a .355 diameter rifle.

[FergusonTO35]

Back on the subject of the Henry single shot: I found one of the better (made in Korea) Simmons 2.5x20 scopes to put on it, since the FX-II goes for above retail even when used. Biggest problem is all the scope mounts I've found for NEF/Henry require you to remove the rear sight. Anybody know of a mount that is short enough to allow the rear sight to remain? I guess I could just cut the used Weaver base I have and create another slot for the scope ring, but I would rather get one that is made the way I want first.

[NSB]

Thanks, will check that out. My Henry is a .45-70 that only sees Unique powered Trapdoor loads, so not sure it would really benefit from something like that.

The more it drops the MORE you benefit from a CDS dial. You’re thinking about it the wrong way. A CDS dial and a range finder gives you a lot more distance if you simply know the yardage and have the means to adjust for it.

[FergusonTO35]

Well, it looks like scoping the Henry isn't going to be in the future unless I want to spend a lot more money. With the Weaver base and medium rings, the hammer will contact the eyepiece. The little scope on it has a very small eyepiece so it would be worse with another. I could get a different base and/or high rings which might provide enough clearance, but I'm thinking I want to just keep sights on it. I have a Marble's folding leaf with a green Hi Viz front, and it works quite well out to 60 yards or so. The Henry is a delightfully simple little rifle in an excellent short range cartridge. I'll just let it be as is!

[doghawg]

Back on the subject of the Henry single shot: I found one of the better (made in Korea) Simmons 2.5x20 scopes to put on it, since the FX-II goes for above retail even when used. Biggest problem is all the scope mounts I've found for NEF/Henry require you to remove the rear sight. Anybody know of a mount that is short enough to allow the rear sight to remain? I guess I could just cut the used Weaver base I have and create another slot for the scope ring, but I would rather get one that is made the way I want first.

You might check Ranger Point Precision.

Edit: They only have rails for the levers.

[FergusonTO35]

Thanks. I think I'll just leave it as is, not like I don't already have a variety of scoped rifles to choose from!