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Aburkh4
12-30-2023, 02:59 PM
Anyone pushed the mp 359125 at carbine velocity’s say 1400-1600 fps? Wondering how the hollow point would hold up?


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mnewcomb59
12-31-2023, 11:28 AM
A 168 grain HP from my 357 carbine cast in 1-1-98 at around 1750 fps impact completely disintegrated and the 30 grain gas check and base driving band were found in jug 3. I bet that would tear up a groundhog better than any 22-250.

My NOE truncated cone has HP and a really tiny cup point. The cup point with 3-3-94 air cooled alloy will retain 100% weight up to 1800 fps impact but for whatever reason it doesn't seem to be near as accurate as the lee 125-rf that shoots great up to 2100 fps.

jdgabbard
01-01-2024, 03:17 PM
You know, I have one and few 9mm carbines to test in. But I never have shot that bullet in them. Don't have a 357mag to try, but I bet it would do precisely how mnewcomb59 suggests. Judging from what I've seen, this HP is really optimized for typical pistol velocities. It would be quite explosive at higher velocities....

T.J.Smith
01-02-2024, 08:51 PM
This bullet shoots great in 9mm & 38/357 mag. WW alloy is my standard with Eastwood powder coating.321676

jdgabbard
01-03-2024, 10:46 AM
This bullet shoots great in 9mm & 38/357 mag. WW alloy is my standard with Eastwood powder coating.321676

TJ, if you don't mind me asking, what load are you using in 38spl? I've loaded over 5grs of unique, which was VERY accurate. But a little lacking in the velocity, and has a gigantic fireball. Always looking to see what others are doing with it...

T.J.Smith
01-03-2024, 02:18 PM
I load 3.9 grs of win 231 in 9mm & 38 special. 357 mag is 10.0 grs of blue dot. No leading at all with powder coating no matter what speed you shoot them.
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jdgabbard
01-03-2024, 03:16 PM
I load 3.9 grs of win 231 in 9mm & 38 special. 357 mag is 10.0 grs of blue dot. No leading at all with powder coating no matter what speed you shoot them.
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Any idea what those 38spl loads are moving at velocity wise? My estimates were around 900fps with 5gr of Unique. But I don't have a Chronograph, so it's just a best guess based on what I had seen in the manuals for similar bullets.

farmbif
01-03-2024, 03:47 PM
I shoot lots of them in the old Rossi 92 and in revolver, one of my favorite group buy molds, up to 6 grains be-86 in 38 spl and up to 9 grains in 357mag. all I use is carnauba red lube sized at .360

T.J.Smith
01-03-2024, 05:07 PM
Any idea what those 38spl loads are moving at velocity wise? My estimates were around 900fps with 5gr of Unique. But I don't have a Chronograph, so it's just a best guess based on what I had seen in the manuals for similar bullets.

Max load in the Lyman manual is 5.1 grs 231 (986 FPS) I would guess about 800 FPS , shoots accurate, has light recoil & easy to make. I load pink bullets for my daughter's gun.