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papaglenn
11-17-2023, 09:22 PM
Ruger/Marlin 357 magnums are finally here.

https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/model_70410/

Outer Rondacker
11-18-2023, 06:33 AM
Why even call it a Marlin? But I have been waiting a long time.

atfsux
11-18-2023, 07:01 AM
Wake me up when they introduce the take-down version of the old CST. Until then,...(yawn)

In the meantime, I'm searching for one of these from Chiappa (also sold under Taylor's).

320091

Kestrel4k
11-18-2023, 01:02 PM
Atf, would you be so kind as to tell me more about that Chiappa ? Thx,

imashooter2
11-18-2023, 01:22 PM
Why even call it a Marlin? But I have been waiting a long time.

I suspect it has a lot to do with the money they paid for the name and design.

papaglenn
11-18-2023, 03:44 PM
Wake me up when they introduce the take-down version of the old CST. Until then,...(yawn)

In the meantime, I'm searching for one of these from Chiappa (also sold under Taylor's).

320091


Go here to Midway and get your name on the list my friend.

There are a few available on Guns International. The only stainless one is in 44 mag unfortunately. Best of luck.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1026004790?pid=918448

Bazoo
11-18-2023, 09:23 PM
Cool. I like that it's traditionally styled. I do not care for the front of the forearm / transition of the barrel band area aesthetically.

Pereira
11-18-2023, 09:40 PM
Cool. I like that it's traditionally styled. I do not care for the front of the forearm / transition of the barrel band area aesthetically.

Me either.

RP

murf205
11-19-2023, 03:11 PM
Ruger/Marlin 357 magnums are finally here.

https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/model_70410/

Have you touched one? I know that being here and seeing one is 2 different things. More than likely, I'd be a $1000 poorer if I saw one.

376Steyr
11-19-2023, 06:08 PM
Yay! Ruglin seems to be picking up the pace on getting the new models out. Maybe in a year or two I'll have the stainless, railed, threaded .357 I'm waiting for.

1Papalote
11-19-2023, 06:42 PM
Homemade soap boys. Still the same boring line up. Get rid of the barrel bands and the silly front sight. I'll wait till then.

Goldstar225
11-19-2023, 10:04 PM
If I didn't already have my JM .357 I would be in the line to buy one.

375supermag
11-19-2023, 10:45 PM
Waiting for one in .41Magnum.

Outer Rondacker
11-20-2023, 07:48 AM
If I didn't already have my JM .357 I would be in the line to buy one.

If I had one I would not be looking to buy one either. But sadly I do not so I am.

T-Bird
11-20-2023, 09:30 AM
Love my Remlin '94 357. I got a rare good one. Looks just like the Ruglin. Very handy, shoots great, have killed deer with it. Mostly I've killed cans and ant hills:smile:

ohen cepel
11-20-2023, 09:32 AM
Waiting for one in .41Magnum.

Henry makes one in 41, not easy to find, but worth looking for one as I would not bet Marlin puts one out.

Lance Boyle
11-20-2023, 10:31 AM
Waiting for one in .41Magnum.

You may have a long wait.

I like the .41, never owned one but a friend was a big .41 devotee.
The other one I’d love that we may see since they still catalog it in the revolvers is the .327 mag. Again, that may be a long wait. I’d prefer a .32 H&R for what I like but I’d take what I could get.

Lance Boyle
11-20-2023, 10:33 AM
If I had one I would not be looking to buy one either. But sadly I do not so I am.

OR. that truck in your profile looks familiar to one I saw on my way to shoot at the Lowville F&G club a bunch of years ago!

JSnover
11-20-2023, 11:13 AM
Ruger/Marlin 357 magnums are finally here.

https://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/model_70410/

Externally the fit/finish look just as good as the one I bought (used) back in the 80s.

murf205
11-20-2023, 11:16 AM
"Get rid of the barrel bands and the silly front sight. I'll wait till then." I think the lack of a barrel band is what makes the Glenfield 30-30's shoot so accurate. Kinda' like free floating the barrel, how ever the accuracy reports of the 44 Ruglins are good.

JSnover
11-20-2023, 11:18 AM
Cool. I like that it's traditionally styled. I do not care for the front of the forearm / transition of the barrel band area aesthetically.

That always did strike me as odd... but I still think the Marlins look better than the Henrys.

fordwannabe
11-20-2023, 11:19 AM
Poor me! I can't really do a new Ruger made 1894 in 357....I guess I will just have to stick with my 2 crummy old JM's. BOO HOO

Lance Boyle
11-20-2023, 12:13 PM
"Get rid of the barrel bands and the silly front sight. I'll wait till then." I think the lack of a barrel band is what makes the Glenfield 30-30's shoot so accurate. Kinda' like free floating the barrel, how ever the accuracy reports of the 44 Ruglins are good.


I like both styles, barrel bands or the front cap. Not all that choosy. I realize the barrel bands are likely to negatively effect accuracy in many rifles.

I also agree that the Henry’s look off. It’s just different and not like was around before 1900. Similar but different. Nothing intrinsically wrong with the appearance but if you’re doing the cowboy in your imagination thing it’s not right.

1Papalote
11-20-2023, 12:36 PM
"Get rid of the barrel bands and the silly front sight. I'll wait till then." I think the lack of a barrel band is what makes the Glenfield 30-30's shoot so accurate. Kinda' like free floating the barrel, how ever the accuracy reports of the 44 Ruglins are good.

I have several cowboy models. They all shoot well. No bands. No hooded sights. Finest Marlin rifles produced in the last 100 years.

murf205
11-20-2023, 04:16 PM
I had a 45/70 CB and it was a tack driver too. It's a shame the recoil on my prosthetic shoulder joint cause me to sell it.

FergusonTO35
11-21-2023, 12:32 PM
Why even call it a Marlin? But I have been waiting a long time.

Not trying to be smartarse, but it is a Marlin gun manufactured by Ruger.

thadfz
11-21-2023, 09:16 PM
I can’t get over the prices for the new Ruger Marlins. Not a working man’s gun anymore :sad:

ddixie884
11-22-2023, 07:40 AM
It says the barrel has 6 lands and grooves. Anyone know the rate of twist?

Gunners Mate
11-30-2023, 09:26 AM
I picked up the Marlin SBL by Ruger in 45/70 and it has quickly turned into one of my favorites, I can tell you the action is buttery smooth like your Grandpas old well worn 30/30, and accurate I left mine as all my other lever actions with open sights, it is consistent 1.5 - 2 moa with factory loads and open sights. It is a 45/70 and light guns and heavy loads are not for *******. It is and absolute hammer on South Texas Hogs. I took it deer hunting last weekend and everyone wanted one, I did not think I would wind up getting it away from my brother, he said when I die that is the gun he wants me to leave to him.

Hickok
11-30-2023, 10:27 AM
I have a new Mugger, (Marlin/Ruger) 1894 in .44 magnum, and with the help of Brian Pearce, who consulted with the Ruger Guru's, this rifle is truly a gem. It feeds Keith SWC's and any other jacketed or cast loads I have, it has the 1/20 twist, the chamber and land/groove dimensions are tight, mine slugs @ .430" groove diameter, and it shoots great.

So IF this is any indication, the new Mugger 1894 .357 should be up to spec. and good to go.

alamogunr
11-30-2023, 10:37 AM
If I were 10 years younger(I'm 81), I would be looking to buy one despite the criticisms. So, my Rossi will have to do and it does what I want.

flatnose
11-30-2023, 11:12 AM
Homemade soap boys. Still the same boring line up. Get rid of the barrel bands and the silly front sight. I'll wait till then.

If they come out with a rifle instead of the barrel band carbine I will buy one. I will also wait. YAWNNNN

smorin2
11-30-2023, 11:14 AM
You may have a long wait.

I like the .41, never owned one but a friend was a big .41 devotee.
The other one I’d love that we may see since they still catalog it in the revolvers is the .327 mag. Again, that may be a long wait. I’d prefer a .32 H&R for what I like but I’d take what I could get.

Henry makes a lever action in 327/32 H&R,mine shoots 32 long as well.

Ford SD
11-30-2023, 08:21 PM
ht tps://www.marlinfirearms.com/s/leverAction-ClassicSeries/

they are now making several but holding off till I see a 357/38 special in 20 inch barrel :)

Now hope they come out with a octagon barrel 20 or 24 inch

BRatigan
12-02-2023, 10:15 AM
I'm a Winchester guy but this rifle looks sweet. I am curious why they needed the butt pad but hey if it makes the gun more comfortable for folks than its just fine.

DougGuy
12-02-2023, 11:49 AM
I actually like the overall looks of the rifle! Now if it's quiet while stalking through the woods, that would make or break a good hunt!

Looks wise, it beats the DAYLIGHTS out of the "Dark" series with picatinny rails stuck on all available sides.

farmbif
12-02-2023, 12:51 PM
as far as the 41 every time I pick up my Henry I like it more and its grown on me through the years and I give it equal rating to the old marlin fg. I only wish I had waited for a carbine with the shorter barrel and loop lever. but as I expected when I invested in it when the big boy first came out the value has increased. now if only Henry would polish them one more step and put a deep blueing on them

dverna
12-02-2023, 01:08 PM
It is going to be a winner. I have two older 1894's (.38 Spl and .38/357) and I expect to keep them till the end.

We used to shoot them a lot when primers were cheap. Very fun guns.

Eddie Southgate
12-02-2023, 06:27 PM
Need to thin that forearm down a bunch and ditch the rubber on the butt to interest me , that and a reasonable msrp .

Jack Stanley
12-03-2023, 02:19 PM
In my experience Marlin has had Quality control and customer service problems since the nineties . Ruger has had the same problems a little longer maybe . So they are not something I'm likely to risk money on unless I can shoot them first .

Jack

Lance Boyle
12-03-2023, 04:29 PM
Need to thin that forearm down a bunch and ditch the rubber on the butt to interest me , that and a reasonable msrp .


Peeling of that LOP rubber and going with a thin checkered plate would suit me. Frankly the common choices between a smooth metal carbine strap plate and crescent are historic but lame. A “shotgun” butt flat plate is perfect. The extra milling on the crescent and carbine wrap around preclude a better option with that same chunk of wood

papaglenn
12-03-2023, 05:17 PM
I'm a Winchester guy but this rifle looks sweet. I am curious why they needed the butt pad but hey if it makes the gun more comfortable for folks than its just fine.

I used to question the rubber butt pad also as my older JM Marlins didn't have them. But I own a Remlin with one and one advantage I have found is that in the summer months when sweat is rolling off of me the rubber pad tends to stay in place a little better.

Just sayin.....

vonb
12-03-2023, 07:09 PM
Give me a rubber pad over a steel plate any day of the week. Rubber pads hold on the shoulder unlike metal.

Pereira
12-03-2023, 08:53 PM
as far as the 41 every time I pick up my Henry I like it more and its grown on me through the years and I give it equal rating to the old marlin fg. I only wish I had waited for a carbine with the shorter barrel and loop lever. but as I expected when I invested in it when the big boy first came out the value has increased. now if only Henry would polish them one more step and put a deep blueing on them

Like you I have one of the early model 41's, as I wasn't sure how long they would actually make the cal.
I would have much preferred the 16" barrel also, as to the large loop. That I bought and swapped out.

RP

uscra112
12-04-2023, 04:23 AM
I could wish that they'd used the 336 action rather than the 1894, but at my age it's a moot point. Not buying anything new anymore.

NorthMoccasin
12-29-2023, 08:00 PM
+1 on waiting for a rifle length without barrel bands! better looks better balance better shooting! A cowboy in 44, 357, 327, and 38/55 would suit me.

murf205
12-29-2023, 09:44 PM
I actually like the overall looks of the rifle! Now if it's quiet while stalking through the woods, that would make or break a good hunt!

Looks wise, it beats the DAYLIGHTS out of the "Dark" series with picatinny rails stuck on all available sides.

I like the looks of the new gun too Doug, although it would be a deal maker for me with the short magazine, but you couldn't chase me fast enough to give me a "Dark" gun with enough rails to hang a telescope on. I guess we are showing our age.

shovelhead96
01-06-2024, 11:44 AM
I can’t get over the prices for the new Ruger Marlins. Not a working man’s gun anymore :sad:The henry levers aren't that much cheaper, seems levers have gone up more than others.

Petander
01-15-2024, 06:21 AM
Why even call it a Marlin?

Yep,they are Rugers. And with the tarnished Marlin brand, I'd rather buy an honestly branded Ruger 336 or 1895 to separate it from "Remlins".

I also think Miroku makes Winchester copies. If Ford had made my Suburban,would it be a Chevy?

Just my opinions.

1006
01-15-2024, 09:28 AM
When I consider the labor involved in making a mechanically complex steel gun, I do not think the prices are out of line with the rest of the economy.

My Ruger Marlin is much nicer than my older ones. I bought mine for hunting and the barrel band won’t affect its killing accuracy-mine is a 30-30.

Years ago, I had the 357 Cowboy model with an 24 inch octagon barrel. It was plenty accurate for target shooting with the barrel band.

doc watson
01-15-2024, 06:13 PM
Not sure if I want to wait on the 44 , 45 version of go ahead with the 357