Who is running a .360 Buckhammer?

[Abert Rim]

I know, 90 percent of shooters turn up their noses, but I like the dang cartridge design and wonder how it is performing in "civilian hands."

[michael.birdsley]

I know, 90 percent of shooters turn up their noses, but I like the dang cartridge design and wonder how it is performing in "civilian hands."

i don’t have one but, i’ve seen the 360 buck hammer at the range. i’ve seen it shoot sub moa out of a lever gun with a scope @ 100 yards while doing 2500 fps.

at this point i think the 350, 360, .450 bm might put everything else out to pasture at least for deer hunting in michigan. out in the plains where you need the extra reach they obviously won’t replace anything.

i pick up gobs of 350 brass and to a lesser extent .450. the buck hammer was new last year. i got lucky the last 2 weeks and picked up a couple 30-06, .243 and other random cases but, that’s been it for most the year.

all my friends and family have bought either .350’s and or .450’s in the last 2-3 years.


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[Abert Rim]

Thanks Michael. Guessing that rifle had to be one of the Henrys.

[Pereira]

Thanks Michael. Guessing that rifle had to be one of the Henrys.

They are the only one making it now.
Hoping Ruger will do one in the Marlin lineup.
Then, I might get interested.

RP

RP

[michael.birdsley]

Thanks Michael. Guessing that rifle had to be one of the Henrys.

yes they were both the all weather all black henry’s


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[farmbif]

on paper the numbers are very close to 375 win. wouldn't mind comparing them side by side at 100 yards

[cwlongshot]

I will have one. Just not this season. I want it in a CVA single shot. But more important to me Im gonna hunt my wifes 'tender carbine. Its Specail to me because I lost her this year and gained a angel. I have a 6mm Rem that I built two years ago they I never hunted as well as a newly traded for 454 Rossi that have never hunted. But "her" 7/30 is going hunting with me!

CW

[cwtebay]

I will have one. Just not this season. I want it in a CVA single shot. But more important to me Im gonna hunt my wifes 'tender carbine. Its Specail to me because I lost her this year and gained a angel. I have a 6mm Rem that I built two years ago they I never hunted as well as a newly traded for 454 Rossi that have never hunted. But "her" 7/30 is going hunting with me!

CWThat's pretty awesome, I cannot imagine a better tribute!

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[T-Bird]

I agree!

[Abert Rim]

CW, sorry for your loss. She will be along with you on that hunt.
Just for fun, I checked Ammoseek for .360 brass, thinking I'd like to have some just to look at. Only seller had 20 cases for $60! But there was plenty of Remington and Federal loaded ammo for under $30 a box!:-D

[Jeff Michel]

I'll be taking one out this year for Ohio deer season. It's a Henry, I put a Leupold 4.5x14 on it and it will indeed shoot right at an inch at one hundred yards. Ballistically, it's rubbing elbows with the 35 Remington so it should be just the ticket for deer hunters that like to hunt with a lever gun (me). I haven't seen any of the 180 grain factory loads but the 200 grain Remington's are excellent and plentiful. I'll post some pictures if I have good fortune.

[farmbif]

maybe this will change availability of the 35 cal 200 grain core lokt for reloaders, they have been impossible to find for many years now.

[Pereira]

^^^^this right here.
One can only hope...

RP

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[Lance Boyle]

I will have one. Just not this season. I want it in a CVA single shot. But more important to me Im gonna hunt my wifes 'tender carbine. Its Specail to me because I lost her this year and gained a angel. I have a 6mm Rem that I built two years ago they I never hunted as well as a newly traded for 454 Rossi that have never hunted. But "her" 7/30 is going hunting with me!

CW


Sorry for your loss. May your angel put you on the game.

[Ramjet-SS]

I will have one. Just not this season. I want it in a CVA single shot. But more important to me Im gonna hunt my wifes 'tender carbine. Its Specail to me because I lost her this year and gained a angel. I have a 6mm Rem that I built two years ago they I never hunted as well as a newly traded for 454 Rossi that have never hunted. But "her" 7/30 is going hunting with me!

CW

Sorry for your loss. The day will be an emotional one when you harvest a deer with the cherished memories of her and using her rifle.

[Ramjet-SS]

I know, 90 percent of shooters turn up their noses, but I like the dang cartridge design and wonder how it is performing in "civilian hands."
I like the idea of new cartridges especially born out a need for a cartridge to overcome regulations that don’t make any sense. How close is this with the 357 max with a 180 grain bullets?

[Abert Rim]

From what I read, the Max with 180-grain bullet is good for 2200 from a 22-inch rifle barrel, and the Buckhammer for about 2500.

[Abert Rim]

Not a lever gun, but Henry confirmed to me today that their single-shot rifle in .360 Buckhammer is in the pipeline.

[murf205]

I have to get this lump out of my throat to tell you that my prayers are with you CW, but it is pale in comparison to that angel on your shoulder.
I am in your corner with the CVA. If they would get a 360 BH made, I would have one post haste! I think that the 360 is about all the recoil that my prosthetic shoulder joint(s) can stand but I am a 35 cal hound from the get go.

[cwlongshot]

Thank you sir. ❤️*��

[Scrumbag]

CW, happy hunting and happy memories to you!

I’m thinking the 360 looks a great chambering. Full fat loads plenty for deer, I’m sure a 180gr load with 5477, unique, universal etc should be great for 25 or 50 yd plinking

[freakonaleash]

I find the tried and true 38 55 to do just fine. Over 100 years of testing and still doing the job.

[Abert Rim]

FOAL, the .38-55 is a wonderful cartridge, a legendary cartridge.
But there is something so refreshingly 19th-century about the .360 Buckhammer that I would like to see it survive.

[GrizzLeeBear]

I just picked up a walnut stock Henry in 360 BHMR from my local ffl this afternoon![smilie=w: Been watching Buds Gunshop online for a while and they seem to come in stock for a day or two then back out of stock for a couple weeks. Well the yearly bonus came in last week and Buds had them in stock so I ordered one (they were out of stock again the next day).
The rifle is very nice looking. Nice straight grained walnut with what I would call a satin finish. Good bluing and wood to metal fit is nice without any "proud" wood or metal areas.
I've had a couple lever actions in the past (a 32 spl and a 35 remington) but not for long, so I'm no lever gun expert. The action on this rifle isn't as smooth as a nicely broken in marlin or winchester, but I'm sure it will smooth out with use. The rifle feels solid.
Unfortunately factory ammo and brass is a little hard to come by right now, but I have some brass left over from the 32 special (its actually 30-30 brass that was necked up to 32). I've trimmed 15 of them to a little over 1.8" and ran them into a .338 win. sizing die that I happened to have to start necking them up. 360 dies won't be here till this weekend, so I will have to wait till then to finish sizing them up to .35 cal. and trimming to finished length.
I plan on getting the Lee 35 200 RNFP (copy of RCBS) to load for deer hunting and use the 358-158-RF that I use in .38 spl to work up some plinking loads.
I do live in the Limited Rifle Zone in Michigan. The 350 legend has become very popular here in AR's and bolt guns, but I really wanted a lever gun. I was considering a 45 Colt to go with my 7.5" Uberti SAA or a 44 Mag. until the 360 BHMR came out. A lever gun that duplicates the the 35 Remington with both jacketed and cast boolits and is legal in our Limited Zone? Yes please!

[cwtebay]

I've been enjoying my 35/30 for a few decades now, certainly a fun cartridge!

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[michael.birdsley]

I find the tried and true 38 55 to do just fine. Over 100 years of testing and still doing the job.

except you can’t use the 38-55 to hunt with in the limited rifle zone in michigan or many other whole states to hunt deer with. That is what is driving the cartridge development of the .350 legend, 360 buck hammer .400 legend, and .450 bush master.

primarily the people buying these new cartridges are buying them to hunt deer with in states that have non-bottle neck straight walled case length restrictions. 10-15 years ago hunters were using shot guns or muzzle loaders in these states. now they are buying straight walled cartridges instead.


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[Abert Rim]

Michael, is it case length/overall cartridge length that makes the .38-55 illegal in your area? These rules are pretty baffling to the rest of us.

[Pereira]

Michael, is it case length/overall cartridge length that makes the .38-55 illegal in your area? These rules are pretty baffling to the rest of us.

Case length, it can't be over 1.8".

RP

[freakonaleash]

except you can’t use the 38-55 to hunt with in the limited rifle zone in michigan or many other whole states to hunt deer with. That is what is driving the cartridge development of the .350 legend, 360 buck hammer .400 legend, and .450 bush master.

primarily the people buying these new cartridges are buying them to hunt deer with in states that have non-bottle neck straight walled case length restrictions. 10-15 years ago hunters were using shot guns or muzzle loaders in these states. now they are buying straight walled cartridges instead.


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I certainly don't get why the 38 55 wouldn't qualify. It takes a .381 255gr bullet as fast as you want to push it.

[freakonaleash]

Case length, it can't be over 1.8".

RP

Well hell. Too many rules.

[Pereira]

I certainly don't get why the 38 55 wouldn't qualify. It takes a .381 255gr bullet as fast as you want to push it.

I love mine, hoping to score with it this season.
The previous owner used it to ringer dingers out to and past 600+ yds.
I just want to slap some meat with it.[smilie=w:

Oh, and I have a buddy down in Texas that picked up one of the 360's yesterday.

RP

[michael.birdsley]

this is the rule for rifles in the limited rifle zone aka shotgun zone in michigan “ . 35 caliber or larger straight walled cartridge, a minimum case length of 1.16 and a maximum of 1.80 case length”. you could possibly trim down a 45-70 or whatever you wanted. some guys have done it to be within the rule.

i live a mile into the regular rifle zone. however, i use the .450 bushmaster in both zones as i hunt thick cover or big woods in either zone. preatty much anything north of zone 3 is dense woods. one gun in the newer calibers works in both zones very well.

the blue line on the map denotes the limited rifle zone. anything below that line the limited rifle rules apply

i have no doubt the 360 buck hammer will survive as now it gives a lever gun option in states with the above restrictions.



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[Abert Rim]

Michael, the Bushmaster is a very effective round. I have had wonderful accuracy from a couple of the Hornady FTX bullets in an AR, but have been tempted to try cast and powder coated. Thanks for explaining your rules.
Was just poking around at Match Grade Machine and they have a 20-inch fluted barrel in .360 for the Contender ...

[Tripplebeards]

I still have a brand new in the box wood stock Ruger gunsite scout chambered in 450 BM. I think if Ruger chambers the gunsite in 360 buck hammer might have sell off the 450bm and get a 360

[Ramjet-SS]

I gave a 450BM to my grandson the Ruger with a brake. Incredibly accurate and excellent gun.

[Good Cheer]

Looks like the perfect case for black powder and .358 pistol molds...
But will the rifles cycle cartridges OK if they're made up with short nosed boolits?

[michael.birdsley]

Michael, the Bushmaster is a very effective round. I have had wonderful accuracy from a couple of the Hornady FTX bullets in an AR, but have been tempted to try cast and powder coated. Thanks for explaining your rules.
Was just poking around at Match Grade Machine and they have a 20-inch fluted barrel in .360 for the Contender ...

i am currently working on a cast load for my .450 bm. i have a pretty lengthy thread on the forum about it. Started with the lee 452-255 mold using powder coated. now i’m using the noe .452-307-fp. just waiting for deer season to end so i can shoot the loads for testing. hoping next year to be hunting with cast boolits.


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[Abert Rim]

:D I was thinking of the Lee 452-255 powder coated as well. Have that mold and like it.

[Jim22]

I have a Henry single shot rechambered to .357 MAX. As stated above the MAX will push a 180 grain boolit about the same velocity as a 170 grand .30-30. That is good enuf for me - and the components are available.

Jim

[Tripplebeards]

Still can’t wrap my head around how a smaller capacity 30-30 case can push faster velocities than a larger capacity 35 Rem with the same barrel length. I’ve gotten 2450 fps with my 20” 336 using 180 grain hot cores. I know Remington uses 24” test barrels for their marketing velocity numbers. I’m guessing real 20” barrel velocities with 180 grain hot cores are a good 150 fps or less than 35 rem hand loads. I’m sure it gets close because the chamber pressure is higher in the modern Henry vs the old model 8 load data listed in so many of the data books. Still like the idea of the buckhammer for states with restrictions BUT imo what is going to the beginning and end of the 360 is basing it off the 30-30 case instead of something with an extractor lip case so it isn’t limited to a lever gun. Might have to get my hands on a 358 win barrel for my AR.

[Texas by God]

It baffles me that Remington’s print ad for the 360 BH features a computer image of the actual cartridge instead of a photograph….


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[41mag]

So I just picked one up last weekend. Haven't done anything but take a pic of it next to my other Henry in 44mag,
320496

Hope to get another set of mounts and scope like I have on the 44 soon and get it up and running.

[FergusonTO35]

I will have one. Just not this season. I want it in a CVA single shot. But more important to me Im gonna hunt my wifes 'tender carbine. Its Specail to me because I lost her this year and gained a angel. I have a 6mm Rem that I built two years ago they I never hunted as well as a newly traded for 454 Rossi that have never hunted. But "her" 7/30 is going hunting with me!

CW

I am really sorry to hear that. I hope you feel her presence while hunting with it.

[FergusonTO35]

I like the .360 better than the .350 Legend. Big rim, .358 boolits, better all the way around. I've been speaking to the General Assembly rep for my area about allowing single shot medium/big bore cartridge rifles during muzzleloader season, which some states already allow. She likes the idea and is going talk to Fish and Wildlife about it. If this happens, the .360 will be a really good option.

[cwtebay]

I will have one. Just not this season. I want it in a CVA single shot. But more important to me Im gonna hunt my wifes 'tender carbine. Its Specail to me because I lost her this year and gained a angel. I have a 6mm Rem that I built two years ago they I never hunted as well as a newly traded for 454 Rossi that have never hunted. But "her" 7/30 is going hunting with me!

CWI have to been going though my "safe guns" and just realized that my (6th, 7th?) Great grandfather's 1886 has gone far too long without being carried afield. I have killed elk and deer and a black bear with it - and make sure that I include John in my prayer above the bounty. I believe that I will have several more opportunities for elk here soon, and I will remember the name when I carry it.
I also hope that you can have that same feeling when carrying your life partner's rifle. It is an amazing burden to bear - and I am somewhat envious of your task! That may sound odd, but I have been fortunate enough to hunt with both grandfather's rifles shortly after their deaths - knowing that I carried on somehow gave me peace. I pray that carrying your wife's weapon offered you the same.


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