lack of 470 nitro express brass, dies and loads

[smoked turkey]

Good afternoon all. I have gone and done it. I have recently purchased a 470 NE rifle. I want to reload for it and am not finding components for it. It seems odd to me that brass is not available. (I will be posting in the WTB section for brass and/or dies.) The reason I am posting here first is to see what the thought is as to why manufacturers are not stepping up to provide brass especially since the gun auction sites are loaded with 470 NE rifles (doubles mainly) and they appear to be selling them. I have reached out to Starline but have not received a reply as of yet. I do realize that plastic semi-autos in 9mm are all the rage now, but isn't there other folks like me who like to shoot the "thumpers" once in a while?

[TurnipEaterDown]

You should be able to find brass -- but it may take shooting factory ammo.

Federal if I remember made this -- probably 7-8 dollars a pull years ago, and I sure people would charge more for NOS.
Norma may also make it now. Their PH line. Probably 10-12 a pull.

These things were always pricey, but more often than not "Coffee table Guns" as Bowen referred to the Linebaugh Longs in a conversation I had with him 25 years ago.

I image stuff is around in a closet and comes up on GB, but pulling it through your nostril may hurt a bit...
(You'll pay through the nose.)

[M-Tecs]

Low volume sales are always put on the back burner when manufacturers can't meet the demands for high volume items.

Brass in stock here:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1009810575

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1007772159

https://reloadingbrassusa.com/hornady-brass-470-nitro-express-box-of-20/

[15meter]

Doubles can be made to regulate quite nicely with pistol weight boolits at reduced velocity. I've done it with a 470 N.E. It was a hoot to shoot. I'll have to dig out the load book. Pretty sure I used 5744 in it.
I used a boolit from a mold intended for the 480 Ruger.

[rockrat]

Wish you would have posted this last Thursday. We had a gun show this weekend and there were dies and brass for your 470NE(even 450NE and 600NE dies!!). Don't know about bullets, but with a proper mould, that would be the easy part

[smoked turkey]

Many thanks for the replies. It is just amazing to me that there is not more components available with so many 470 ne Rifles on the market. Rockrat I wish I'd have seen the die sets you mentioned. However, they are expensive. I guess if a person wants to play, they gotta pay. I will see what comes out of a search for components. I'm anxious to pop some off.

[rockrat]

I have heard of people making bullets from 45 acp cases. Light weight for the caliber though. I might have a Lee mould that casts pistol weight boolits as I had thought about a 470 years ago.

[smoked turkey]

Thanks rockrat. I have a 480 Ruger mould. It is the .476-400-SWC. That is going to be my go to boolit. It casts at 410 gr for me. I plan on alloying to Lyman #2 so it will be a little harder. Unfortunately it is a non checked mould. So I will experiment with boolit speed to control leading.

[TurnipEaterDown]

Hawk can supply jacketed for 470 NE: https://hawkbullets.com/bullet-selection.html#/
$80-125 per 50 for 500 gr.

I used some 0.065" jacketed 500 gr samples in a 10" TC Encore chambered in 475 Linebaugh Long at one time @ 1450-1500 fps. It was entertaining. Recovered a bullet or two. Lots of bearing surface.

[rockrat]

Don't forget to powder coat. Reduce leading

[Spooksar]

Hornady has made brass for the 470, I bought a Lyman mould years ago for mine and I powder coat them for plinking. I bought enough brass and Woodliegh bullets to last me till I die for Dangerous game. I think Norma is now making brass also.

[smoked turkey]

Thanks Spooksar. I emailed Starline and nicely asked them to consider making brass for the 470 ne. I doubt they will, but certainly worth a try. I like Hornady's products for the most part. Their brass is good. I'll check on some of i can't find any used.

[ebb]

Really, Ive been into guns for way over 20 years and I have never seen one to my knowledge. May have seen one and thought it was a double barrel shotgun.

[M-Tecs]

I've seen both rifles and loaded 470 nitro express. Never shot one. I wonder what the total yearly sales for 470 nitro express ammo is? I would be surprised if it's more than 20,000 rounds per year. I've been to matches that shot that in an hour or two.

[rbuck351]

It doesn't surprise me that you can't find stuff for the 470 NE. You can't find brass for the 25/20 and I'm betting there's a lot more of them around than 470 NE.