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Good Cheer
09-10-2023, 03:09 PM
I have one of the ancient 32-165 Winchester molds (for 32-40 or .32 Special) in excellent condition. Essentially not used, varnish still on the handles. But the sprue plate doesn't sit flat. Looking at it I'd say it never has sat flat on top of the mold and that's why it hasn't been used. Sooo, I'd like to flatten that plate!

Anyone seen Winchester factory molds with this hickup before?
Got suggestions on the best way to go about fixing it?
The only thing I know to do is press it as flat as I can get it and then do the last bit of leveling by flat file followed with abrasives.

Mk42gunner
09-10-2023, 04:44 PM
As long as you can take the sprue plate off the mold, it shouldn't be too hard to get flat. If you can't, all bets are off on itt ever being flat enough to use.

Measuring from the crimp groove to the meplat, then comparing brass length to allowable overall cartridge length should tell you which round the mold was intended for. Somehow I doubt that Winchester mad a mold that had two crimp grooves.

Robert

farmbif
09-10-2023, 06:25 PM
ive got one of this mold. but mine has have been through a lot of rough years of service and sprue plate screw is forever getting loose. have not even looked at the mold in decades since getting an RCBS 32-170. that mold could probably benefit from having a thicker sprue plate and a grub screw on the side to hold the sprue plate screw in place

turtlezx
09-10-2023, 08:00 PM
i had 1 also not that problem tho
as cast .321 dia and would tumble in a 1893 marlin 32 40

Good Cheer
09-10-2023, 09:33 PM
What a terrible dilemma; if fixed it'll need something to shoot them in!
Kidding aside I am looking forward to seeing how they turn out.

35 Rem
09-12-2023, 11:13 PM
Once you press it as flat as possible using a flat surface, you can place some thin pieces under each end and on either side of the high spot. Press on the high spot in the middle so it can be bent beyond flat to account for spring back. If you go too far flip it over and work from the back side.
Experiment until you get it right.

Green Frog
09-13-2023, 12:02 PM
Failing in efforts to flatten it, it wouldn’t be a big deal to cut one out of mild steel, using the original for a template for shape and hole placement. Then you can heat treat it in the oven or with a torch, and you’re good to go!
I really loved using mine to cast bullets for my original high wall in 32-40!
Froggie

turtlezx
09-13-2023, 10:20 PM
put on a flat surface with sand paper sheet taped down and sand it down until flat easy to do

Good Cheer
10-01-2023, 09:44 PM
Think it's flatten correctly now. Need to find time to test it out.
Then it needs to find a .32 Winchester or 32-40 to snuggle up to.

Green Frog
10-02-2023, 10:21 AM
Think it's flatten correctly now. Need to find time to test it out.
Then it needs to find a .32 Winchester or 32-40 to snuggle up to.

…and a Winchester Model 1894 Loading Tool to complete the package. Then, with a small package of components you can head out into the “Great White North” (or South or West or East) and shoot like Oliver Winchester and John Browning intended! :bigsmyl2:
Froggie

Good Cheer
10-11-2023, 07:38 PM
Tried it out yesterday evening... success!

Mk42gunner
10-12-2023, 12:40 AM
Thanks for the follow up. Way too many I need advice posters never report back on if the job at hand was successful or not.

Robert

farmbif
10-12-2023, 07:19 AM
Think it's flatten correctly now. Need to find time to test it out.
Then it needs to find a .32 Winchester or 32-40 to snuggle up to.

sound just about right, something I might do. get a mold then find a gun in that caliber to shoot the bullets with.

Good Cheer
10-13-2023, 09:36 PM
Well, either get the gun or find someone to care for the mold. [smilie=l: