High school kids/ wannabe car thieves

[johnsonian09]

So my town/ block has had some problems with teenage kids (13-15) that keep trying to get into empty cars and playing typical low level annoyance stuff.

Last night at 12:30 I caught them messing with a family members car. They ran off and hid behind my neighbors gate. So I called 911 for the break in attempt and they got away probably 45 seconds before the cops actually showed up.

I’m not gonna shoot a kid for failing to break into a car. But I’m childish enough to play with them.

Anyone ever thought about casually tossing those Air-soft grenades at those non-actually-a-threat more of a nuisance kid mischief stuff? Airsoft are toys so it shouldn’t hurt to bad. But after watching some youtube they seem pretty loud.

I think I’d get a chuckle out of hearing their response to that.


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[uscra112]

I am soooo glad I retired to a rural location where I don't have to deal with that crap.

It's wearing on the soul to have to be on the defensive all the time. Been there, done that, burned the t-shirt.

[Scrounge]

So my town/ block has had some problems with teenage kids (13-15) that keep trying to get into empty cars and playing typical low level annoyance stuff.

Last night at 12:30 I caught them messing with a family members car. They ran off and hid behind my neighbors gate. So I called 911 for the break in attempt and they got away probably 45 seconds before the cops actually showed up.

I’m not gonna shoot a kid for failing to break into a car. But I’m childish enough to play with them.

Anyone ever thought about casually tossing those Air-soft grenades at those non-actually-a-threat more of a nuisance kid mischief stuff? Airsoft are toys so it shouldn’t hurt to bad. But after watching some youtube they seem pretty loud.

I think I’d get a chuckle out of hearing their response to that.


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Since they're minors, you'd probably get in legal and neighbor trouble. Not worth the risk. I'd just set up a/some night-vision/day-vision camera(s), and get lots of video/photos of them for the cops.

[M-Tecs]

A friend of mine owned and lived in the upstairs of his duplex. The lady that he rented the ground floor was a working girl. She paid the rent on time and never was a problem. Her pimp would show up every day at around 5pm. He would honk the horn until she came out. My friend worked nights and the honking woke him up. He repeatedly told the pimp to knock it off. The pimp basically told him to pack sand.

The pimp drove a Cadillac convertible. My friend was waiting for the pimp with a slingshot and an M-40 on the second story deck. M-40's are significantly larger than M-80. The M-40 landed in and went off in the back seat of the cady. That was before cell phones. After that the pimp parked two blocks away and waited for her.

The cady didn't have a posi track differential judging from the 1/2 block long single burnout that he left peeling out.

[Winger Ed.]

A camera of some sort might do well.
They're probably kids that live nearby and would be easy to identify.

[uscra112]

Could you set a lawn sprinkler up to douse 'em?

[johnsonian09]

Legal trouble over an airsoft toy? I kinda doubt it but may as well play it safe. The sprinkler idea sounds just as good to me lol

I know they are some local kids because they were wearing the local high school hoodie. The problem is slap on the wrist and do it again next week mentality. But I figure some childish low tier prankster type fun could be had.


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[farmbif]

I would put an air tag or 2 in the car just in case. if you're thinking of shooting be sure to use shotgun forget the toys. but me I dont play games and have zero tolerance for thieves. a warning shot from a 12 gauge might have a lasting effect on those fools.
we are coming upon ginseng season here in the Appalachians and I will be doing lots of shooting in the mountain behind my house. it works

[firefly1957]

Many year ago I used a sling shot and spent shot shell primers to dissuade youth from such things Shooting the primers over their heads makes a whistling sound one group though they were being shot at with a silencer. Times were different then now the little fools would probably call the police on me rather then stay away! I also wired and alarm to one car because of gas thieves and kept the 5 gallon can for my own use that punk told the neighborhood I was crazy and kids tended to stay away from my house for the next few years .
Even though I am in the sticks now nearest neighbor 1/4 mile away I have had a few issues and have installed security cameras plus trail camera on driveway . One person who tried to get in garage was strictly on foot I came home to find part of the door jamb split however with long bolts going into a 4X6 beam and angle aluminum reinforcement the door held . This February A car pulled in the drive and looked over the house with some kind of night vision then backed out no backup , headlights or brake lights they were up to no good for sure.

A note on gas theft today while the thieves used to siphon fuel today most of our gas tanks are plastic and it is common for them to put a pan under the vehicle and drill a hole in the tank . Excess fuel often runs all over the ground creating a fire hazard. Some people have the tank replaced, threading a bolt into the hole with a good sealant can be a better fix if you do the work rather then have insurance pay the repair.

[country gent]

The sprinkler would work to startle them better would be to fill the first 3 feet of the hose with food coloring to mark them.

Years ago we had a couple kids with daddys car front yard farming. I waited one night when they hit my yard I got the white car coming in and going out with blue paint balls, About an hour later Daddy showed up complaining that they were just driving down the road I asked him how I got hits on both sides of the car and showed Him my side yard where the drove thru and spun around. Te next morning the 2 boys were here with rakes and grass seed the car cleaned and Dad watching.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

This is sure a sad commentary on the situation in our Country. Fortunately, I've experienced no trouble like that here. I live a good distance off the highway and am set back from the road quite a bit, so anyone that arrives here without an invitation is viewed with suspicion.

It's been fashionable for many years now to say, "You can't shoot thieves! Car theft isn't a crime deserving of capital punishment." It's fair to point out though, that when thieves were shot crime was much lower; and that this seems true throughout the crime spectrum, that the lack of punishment and the lack of fear of punishment breeds more crime. While I'll tiptoe around the issue of shooting thieves, I will flat out say that I'm all for summarily shooting looters and arsonists caught in the act. Gads, Martha...what a Neanderthal!

DG

[MrWolf]

Many year ago I used a sling shot and spent shot shell primers to dissuade youth from such things Shooting the primers over their heads makes a whistling sound one group though they were being shot at with a silencer. Times were different then now the little fools would probably call the police on me rather then stay away! I also wired and alarm to one car because of gas thieves and kept the 5 gallon can for my own use that punk told the neighborhood I was crazy and kids tended to stay away from my house for the next few years .
Even though I am in the sticks now nearest neighbor 1/4 mile away I have had a few issues and have installed security cameras plus trail camera on driveway . One person who tried to get in garage was strictly on foot I came home to find part of the door jamb split however with long bolts going into a 4X6 beam and angle aluminum reinforcement the door held . This February A car pulled in the drive and looked over the house with some kind of night vision then backed out no backup , headlights or brake lights they were up to no good for sure.

A note on gas theft today while the thieves used to siphon fuel today most of our gas tanks are plastic and it is common for them to put a pan under the vehicle and drill a hole in the tank . Excess fuel often runs all over the ground creating a fire hazard. Some people have the tank replaced, threading a bolt into the hole with a good sealant can be a better fix if you do the work rather then have insurance pay the repair.

Back when I lived in Jersey and my daughter was younger, the boy kids would be up to their bull, ringing doorbell and stupid boy stuff thinking it impressed. They did it enough times that I waited on night and proceeded to chase them around the neighborhood, through yards and such and yelling what inwould do to them if I caught them. I was much younger than and could still move. Never did it again. Spoke to one of the kids Father's a few years later and he was laughing saying how scared they were of me and that I was nuts. It worked.

[akajun]

Quick answer, no you wont get into trouble for tossing an airsoft grenade at kids violating the law, but you may loose your life.

IN LA a "vehicle theft" as you call it even unlocked is still considered a burglary and these "kids" are not "looking for change" they are looking for guns, prescriptions, credit cards, etc because they known people are irresponsible and leave that stuff in there unlocked. Often now we're seeing that they work in teams and are often armed and "covering" the direction of the home and doorways with the gun.
Moral of the story, stop leaving valuables and firearms in your vehicles, lock your doors, and dont play with these criminals

[Recycled bullet]

Hose them down with OC some of them have big cans with big handles and you can actually aim them. Some have fluorescent dye I'd recommend one of those. Make sure you completely soak them then call the police and ask them to pick up the red-faced idiot trespassing thief.

I don't know if they're any good now but back in the day The cold steel pepper spray was a gel it was fantastic. You could buy inert cartridges so you could practice. You don't want the wind to change and get it blown back in your face!!!

[uscra112]

Food coloring. I like that.

Years ago I rented a small "hired-man's house" on a farm in Michigan. Snowmobilers were a yearly problem, knocking down fences and tearing up the lawns of the "big house". My landlord tried the paintball trick, but the State Police came after HIM.

Yet another reason I don't miss Michigan.

[uscra112]

IN LA a "vehicle theft" as you call it even unlocked is still considered a burglary and these "kids" are not "looking for change" they are looking for guns, prescriptions, credit cards, etc because they known people are irresponsible and leave that stuff in there unlocked. Often now we're seeing that they work in teams and are often armed and "covering" the direction of the home and doorways with the gun.
Moral of the story, stop leaving valuables and firearms in your vehicles, lock your doors, and dont play with these criminals

The last time I lived in a city, (college in the 1960s), the drill was to leave your car empty of valuables, but unlocked so they wouldn't break the windows. You even took the radio/tape deck out and brought it inside. I drove a "junker" out of poverty in those days, but even so I had a hideout switch for the ignition, disguised as the on-off button for the A/C, (which didn't work anyway, so....) Some people even put a sign on the car saying "no radio". Cars had retractable radio antennas. I even saw one guy (gal?) on my street who removed the windshield wipers.

This was over 50 tears ago.

[Bmi48219]

I wonder if connecting a hot wire fence transformer to the car frame would damage the vehicle’s electronics?

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

So my town/ block has had some problems with teenage kids (13-15) that keep trying to get into empty cars and playing typical low level annoyance stuff.

Last night at 12:30 I caught them messing with a family members car. They ran off and hid behind my neighbors gate. So I called 911 for the break in attempt and they got away probably 45 seconds before the cops actually showed up.

I’m not gonna shoot a kid for failing to break into a car. But I’m childish enough to play with them.

Anyone ever thought about casually tossing those Air-soft grenades at those non-actually-a-threat more of a nuisance kid mischief stuff? Airsoft are toys so it shouldn’t hurt to bad. But after watching some youtube they seem pretty loud.

I think I’d get a chuckle out of hearing their response to that.


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I'm not sure where you are living, but car theft is serious trouble in some places.
I would not recommend being "childish enough to play with them."


Jul 22, 2023 — About 4700 vehicles were reported stolen across Minneapolis so far this year, averaging 24 a day — a 70% increase from this time last year.
https://www.startribune.com/as-st-paul-reins-in-car-thefts-minneapolis-faces-record-high-surge/600291477/

These ferral youths will shoot you


May 8, 2023 — Michael Brasel, 44, was shot in front of his own home as he confronted someone trying to steal a car on Saturday morning in the St. Anthony.
https://www.fox9.com/news/st-paul-man-was-killed-confronting-car-thief-in-front-of-his-home



May 10, 2023 --- 17-year-old arrested in killing of St. Paul man (Michael Brasel) who interrupted theft outside home
https://www.twincities.com/2023/05/10/suspect-arrested-michael-brasel-killing-st-paul-mn/

[Bmi48219]

Assuming a thief has to open the vehicle door to get at the contents, what about attaching one (or more) of those old firecracker-type things with the strings sticking out both ends, to the door and door frame? The ones where pulling the strings causes a small charge to explode.

[Scrounge]

Assuming a thief has to open the vehicle door to get at the contents, what about attaching one (or more) of those old firecracker-type things with the strings sticking out both ends, to the door and door frame? The ones where pulling the strings causes a small charge to explode.

Got news for you guys. The world we grew up in is gone. They have kindergarteners shooting people with serious intent now. Used to be a teacher here locally. One of my students made the news wanted for murder. Kid was in 8th or 9th grade. Already had the tear tattoo when he was in my class in 2006 or 2007, whenever it was.

[Handloader109]

I would agree, I would not really mess around with junk if I had to step outside to use it. Water sprinkler on internal timer I could easily trip on would be fun if it were really kids. But now, you might get shot. If I had to step out, I'd have a gun in hand....hate to saythat, but it'sthe truth.
I'm way out in countryside. Had a little old lady show up from down the road just after we moved in 7 years ago. Was talking to my wife and said to her that there was a kid who walked around with a long gun and not to worry about him, my wife calmly told her that if anyone came down our drive or across her yard with a gun they were liable to get shot. Took her aback a bit, but we've never seen him or anyone else wandering.... which is a good thing in my opinion, let your neighbors know you are a gun nut and will use them.

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[.429&H110]

Would an electric fence be illegal? Probly, every form of hurtful fun is naughty.

The big cans of bear spray will squirt 20 feet and are red paint, so we can identify the bear later.
We sure made a mess at "Bear Safety" training and went home stinking red.
(Be sure you're upwind)(I am so glad the bears are safe.)
Would be a medical emergency, poor kid showing up at the ER, stinking blinded bright red.
You would need a reasonable threat, car theft isn't, but threatening elderly people is a felony.
Just hope the Asst Dist Atty has a sense of humor, the stuff doesn't wash off soon.
"Lookit what that geezer did, $2000 at the ER and my Scarlett is still scarlet"
Bears only need to be sprayed once, and they learn quickly.

Scottsdale I was taught to put a rubber rattlesnake on the dashboard
"The Club" on the steering wheel
and never ever anything in the truck but seats and the snake.
No registration or insurance papers, because that's your address. You obviously aren't home.
Glove box open, empty. They will bust a window for anything, so leave nothing.
Nobody cares if your alarm goes off. Nobody.
Sounds silly, but I was parked overnight every night in a car thief park.
The fancy truck next to mine had a big realistic rattler coiled up on the passenger seat.
Cars were stolen, broken into, but not ours.
If they were smart, they wouldn't be car thieves.

The last time my rig was broken into was Helena Montana
when I was moving from No.Pole AK to Tucson AZ.
Never had any problem in Scottsdale.

[schutzen-jager]

Legal trouble over an airsoft toy? I kinda doubt it but may as well play it safe. The sprinkler idea sounds just as good to me lol

I know they are some local kids because they were wearing the local high school hoodie. The problem is slap on the wrist and do it again next week mentality. But I figure some childish low tier prankster type fun could be had.


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fyi in some jurisdictions air soft, + air guns are treated as firearms - + grenades as restricted fireworks -

[BLAHUT]

Years ago; a friends dad was an electrical engineer, wired a doorbell or phone transformer and battery to the car door, wet the ground real good, when the fool tried to open the door, it received a little suspires, didn't take long for the word to get around that the cars were wired ?? End of problem ... I wonder if a fence charger would do the same thing without hurting the electronics in the car / truck ??? When they were stealing gas from my truck, I had saddle tanks, so I filled the main tank with water and left about 1 Gallion of gas in the tank for the smell and taste, OH YA; the stole about 5 gallions of water, don't know how far they got ?? they never came back ??

[Bmi48219]

…..I filled the main tank with water and left about 1 Gallion of gas in the tank for the smell and taste,….

A man after my own heart!

[M-Tecs]

Legal trouble over an airsoft toy? I kinda doubt it but may as well play it safe.

Banishing a realistic "toy" firearm is normally considered the same as a real firearm in the eyes of the law. Lots on people have gotten shot for doing that. You point a realistic "fake" firearm at me you may get shot with my very real firearm and the law will normally side with me.

[jsizemore]

We had the end of the driveway used as a toilet by the local drunk/druggies. I had enough of it smelling like a toilet when I went to the mailbox. Very large pecan tree had some branches over the end of the drive. I stationed myself behind another tree farther down the drive (about 40 yards) amongst some bushes. When the car pulled in the drive and the first car door opened. I yelled "GET THE HECK OUT OF HERE". When I heard the beginning of the F word I cut loose with 3 shots from the Benelli into the tree branch over the car. The response was immediate. Quick reverse back and squalling tires down the road. Never was there a return of the scum and no visit from LE. Neighbors never complained nor reported the incident but felt safe in their homes. Still policed my hulls and wads. Just in case.

[dverna]

It will only get worse.

We will get persecuted and prosecuted for trying to live in peace.

[johnsonian09]

To be specific these toys for air soft matches are what I was talking about

https://youtu.be/B7eH8D7h1S4?si=hJxKE8bcCtQmwrXN

Kids/teenagers/ adults use them in games all the time.

Something to quickly chuck out my second story bedroom window when the foolish kids wake me. I was thinking it would be a silly little non-lethal deterrent. As every time I confront them they run away anyway.

And yes, I was armed at the time just incase. But I’m not going to shoot a rifle/handgun for a warning shot in the city I live in. As that would be just as dangerous physically to bystanders as it would be legally dangerous to me.

I think maybe setting up an OC/water/liquidAss something that goes off if they ever manage to open the door- or I can set off remotely might be a simpler prank now




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[firefly1957]

MrWolf Yes I was 30 years old when I chased down the gas thief that would be 36 years ago now and in a completely different area of Michigan . Also punks were known to be armed at that time I had my .44 bulldog with me just in case .

Some of you suggest bear spray last time I read though Michigan laws it was a felony to use against a person we have a goofy state as another said if I did move I would not miss our bad laws one bit!

A couple years ago I was out in the front yard after a skunk at night, a car with people that were drinking pulled in the driveway they where terribly upset at the double barrel I was holding . They wanted to know why I was out with a shotgun I told them vermin of all sizes and they left quickly I never saw them again . I also talked to the local deputy about them said they seamed to be up to more then just driving around drinking he said he would keep an eye out but I never heard anymore or seen them again. Because they backed out I did not see a license plate to get the number if they would have pulled in a couple more feet a trail camera would have got the license plate .

Above snowmobiles where mentioned five miles from here in the early 70's my grandfather had trouble with drunks on snowmobiles one November . We had more snow then he told us how they circled the cabin throwing bottles at the cabin. After he passed I was at the cabin when a old retired deputy stopped by he told us the rest of the story grandpa had used his M1 carbine to shoot up the cowls of the snow machines , The deputy said I could tell the old man knew how to shoot and give proper lead or he would have hit the drivers . The group called the police and had their snowmobiles impounded and were arrested today you can bet the same department would get my grandfather instead! Something else back then they have more deputies on duty then today now they have a hard time getting two on the road at once!

[bedbugbilly]

akajun - the "moral" of the story should be - get rid of left wing DAs that don't want to enforce the law - do away with no-bail / no jail and get rid of the left wing socialists that wanted to defund the police and prevent them from doing their job. Get back to "you do the crime, you do the time" and teach these youngsters that they are responsible for their actions. For those that keep voting in the left wing "you poor boy/girl - it's not your fault you are a victim of our society" bunch of idiots - you reap what you sow. Stealing cars . . . walking in and stealing a business owner's merchandise . . . . during and looting in the name of "social reform" . . . . you are no the victims . . the hard working people paying taxes and trying to make a living and who follow the law are the "victims".

"kids" trying to boost cars . . . . just youngsters trying to have some fun? What happens when they steal a car and hit someone or smash it up? What happens to the owner who needs that car to go to work? to get to the Doctor? to take their kids to school? If the kids are caught, their parents should be held responsible as well.

A number of years ago, I had a cousiin who worked at a drug store. They built a new store and the first week it was open, she was working the front counter. A "kid" came in, walked up to the outer and tole her to open the register and give him all the money. She refused. He jumped the counter,, stabbed her to death and ran out. He went to a nearby park where his girlfriend cut his hair to change his appearance. They nabbed him in two days and he cried like a baby that he was a minor and "didn't mean to hurt her. Sorry, but if a kid that is a young teenager is out trying to boost cars . . . it's downhill from there.

Remember that when you vote. And remember . . . at one time, they use to hang horse thieves. But we've "progress" from those days . . . . . or have we?

I'm certainly not for shooting anybody - kid or adult - if they are outside of an unoccupied care trying to steal it. But if I am in the car, or my wife is in the car and they pull the door open and threaten either of us or show a knife or a gun . . . that's going to be a story with a different ending.

I'd vote for a hose full of some type of dye that is difficult to get off. If you can get close, hose the down and then let them explain it to their parents . . if they even care. Call the police and they can be on the lookout for kids that look like a big dyed Easter egg.

[Kenstone]

Just posted this security system in another thread.
When the alarm is activated, you can talk to the people who activated it via your phone.
A voice from "above" should cause confusion and puddin' pants as they run away.
That and you will have a security system for other stuff.

""I have this System.
It's wireless, no cloud storage or fees, Vids stored on base unit, and lots of other features.
2 outdoor cameras $199 -$50 (if you have prime... $149)
Read the revues:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07W1HKYQK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
Questions?""


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[firefly1957]

BEDBUGBILLY a few people have said there is no death penalty for stealing cars but back in the 1990's they did make armed carjacking a federal death penalty case . I wonder if it has ever been used ? Shortly after it passed a family in Lapeer county Michigan lost a daughter to a felon with a gun that carjacked her kidnaped and murdered her dumping her body in a river . The county and state refused to bump the case to federal court to go for the death penalty I wonder if the criminal is still in prison today?

[SciFiJim]

Just posted this security system in another thread.
When the alarm is activated, you can talk to the people who activated it via your phone.
A voice from "above" should cause confusion and puddin' pants as they run away.
That and you will have a security system for other stuff.

""I have this System.
It's wireless, no cloud storage or fees, Vids stored on base unit, and lots of other features.
2 outdoor cameras $199 -$50 (if you have prime... $149)
Read the revues:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1
Questions?""


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Amazon at that link shows "Page not Found"
What product name can I search for.
It sounds like just the thing I've been thinking about getting.

[Kenstone]

Amazon at that link shows "Page not Found"
What product name can I search for.
It sounds like just the thing I've been thinking about getting.

Sorry try this:
https://www.amazon.com/eufy-Security-Wireless-Resolution-Compatibility/dp/B08C4TDK5N/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=YLMbG&content-id=amzn1.sym.5f7e0a27-49c0-47d3-80b2-fd9271d863ca%3Aamzn1.symc.e5c80209-769f-4ade-a325-2eaec14b8e0e&pf_rd_p=5f7e0a27-49c0-47d3-80b2-fd9271d863ca&pf_rd_r=3AA7X8PH5C4W54HCQBRP&pd_rd_wg=aGzDF&pd_rd_r=1554b43a-347c-47c1-9908-a351c2b7c3cf&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m&th=1

the product:
eufy Security, eufyCam S220 (eufyCam 2C Pro) 2-Cam Kit, Wireless Home Security Camera, 2K Resolution, 180-Day Battery Life, HomeKit Compatibility, IP67, Night Vision, No Monthly Fee, Motion Only Alert
Copy and paste it into the Amazon search window!
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[fiberoptik]

Back in the early 80’s we had the bad kid in the neighborhood breaking into garages, including ours. Next night I sat up with .410 loaded up with rocksalt. When he came out he accidentally got a salted a$$. In the morning waiting for the school bus he kept rubbing his rear. Told him next time wouldn’t be salt. No more problem.

[MaryB]

Windshield washer pump, a sprayer above each door. Load the sprayer tank with skunk piss mixed with pink dye... can either have a remote sensor set it off or use a hand held remote to get them when they are facing the car with the nozzle in their face...

[Nazgul]

Had an uncle that owned a restaurant in Western NY state. He plowed snow for several large stores as a side job. He always kept a 5 gal can of gas in the truck bed. It started to disappear so he filled it and added 5 pounds of sugar to it. Next day it was empty again. A couple days later one of his customers came in saying someone had ruined the engine on his new Cadillac with sugar in the gas. Turns out his teen son was joy riding at night and filling the car up on the way home.

I remembered this when we lived in CA, the wife was an Air Force Officer. Had a new lawn trimmer stolen from in front of the house. So I left a new gas can full of sugar/gas out. It was gone in short order.

While in Seattle in the Marines we had a second story apartment. There was a school and ball fields behind us. A truck with a camper would park behind the building almost every Friday night. The couple would be drunk and argue loudly all night. It got to be a pain. So one warm night with the windows open they were at it hard. I dropped an M80 onto the roof. Their roof vent was open on top of the camper. It bounced into the vent. We heard "What the hell is that?". Then it went off and blew the vent completely off. They never came back.

Don

[firefly1957]

Fiberoptik I had forgotten about my fathers story about the same time in the 1980's he was having trouble with theft from the garage and caught two people at the muzzle of a 12 gauge riot gun . One was an adult who never returned the other was a local kid who called the police on my father . Thankfully county rather then local police responded and they did a reeducation number on the kid scaring him with a day in regular adult jail with hard core criminals waiting for trial .

I have always been confused by sugar in the gas tank claims it should not damage the engine but it will clog fuel lines, passages, and filters . I have heard the old purple moth balls dissolved in gas will kill an engine over heating combustion chamber to the point of causing rings to seize.

I found out it is illegal here in Michigan but I once dried Habanero peppers with Potassium nitrate mixed in while they got blended in a blender . The dried result was powdered then mixed with black powder one volume of each. It worked great in my old garage even kept feral cats out when I tested it . I have since grown and dried ghost peppers but they are used in burrows under the pole barns so the animals do not re-dig the burrow after I fill the entrance in .

[kerplode]

If your airsoft grenade results in one of the kids sustaining an eye injury, their parents will sue you into the ground.

I really doubt you're gonna scare them away with any of the ideas presented here. And if you screw with them, don't be surprised if they screw back twice as hard...Kids doing this kind of stuff can be very malicious Oh, and since they're underage, nothing will ever happen to them legally.

[BLAHUT]

So my town/ block has had some problems with teenage kids (13-15) that keep trying to get into empty cars and playing typical low level annoyance stuff.

Last night at 12:30 I caught them messing with a family members car. They ran off and hid behind my neighbors gate. So I called 911 for the break in attempt and they got away probably 45 seconds before the cops actually showed up.

I’m not gonna shoot a kid for failing to break into a car. But I’m childish enough to play with them.

Anyone ever thought about casually tossing those Air-soft grenades at those non-actually-a-threat more of a nuisance kid mischief stuff? Airsoft are toys so it shouldn’t hurt to bad. But after watching some youtube they seem pretty loud.

I think I’d get a chuckle out of hearing their response to that.


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WE HAVE 10 YEAR OLDS WITH GUNS STELLING CARS HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS; Future does not look good !! In the past if you stole someone's ride and were caught it was get a rope and find a tree; we need to go back to that; doesn't matter if it's a horse or a car; get a rope and find a tree....
JUDGE ISAAC PARKER; got everything back to law and order, fast; we need this again !!!!

[Bmi48219]

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Kenstone, How do you recharge the cameras? Do they have to be removed from mounted locations for recharge? Or can you buy spare batteries and swap them out (so you don’t have to readjust camera angle) without moving the camera?

[Kenstone]

Kenstone, How do you recharge the cameras? Do they have to be removed from mounted locations for recharge? Or can you buy spare batteries and swap them out (so you don’t have to readjust camera angle) without moving the camera?

Good questions...

You have to remove the camera and charge it at the homebase.
How often depends on the settings of each individual camera.
You can configure the trigger area for each camera, have it viewing the road/sidewalk and it will record every car/person, thus using up the batteries sooner.
My driveway camera catches me coming/going in my car or on foot, so that camera gets charged more often, like every 6 months.

My cameras are mounted low and only require a step latter to remove for charging.
I have that camera accessed on my phone when re-hanging it so I can re-adjust the camera angle.
jmo,
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[Winger Ed.]

It sounds like just the thing I've been thinking about getting.

Awhile back we put cameras up.
I didn't want to be crawling around in the attic running wires, so I got a system that runs off the house wi-fi.

It was from Lorax, and has 6 wireless cameras. The batteries last a few months. I got a spare battery
so when one runs down, I swap it with the spare so I only make one trip up the ladder.
They also have optional solar chargers for each camera battery too.

I think the entire system was around $400. It has a base station/monitor, a signal booster, plus you can get
notifications on your phone also.
The cameras also have night vision, and serve as a intercom so you can talk back & forth with them.
They store a BUNCH of videos before they over write their memory or you can pay for long term off site storage.

[justindad]

Get a Rottweiler. Expect retaliation.

[rockrat]

I think sugar in the gas tank causes problems because the sugar ends up on the cylinder walls and rings and when the engine cools down, it locks the rings in place, cannot expand or rotate.

[.429&H110]

If the dog bites, the dog will be arrested.
Wife just produced a old broken down eight pound dog from the animal league.
Now I can hip carry a concealed dog, the holster doesn't print through him.
Or his sling has a pocket for a 1911, neat rig for Wal-Mart.
He is a fine automatic doorbell, Chico the alpha chihuahua knows his boundaries.
Amazon driver steps on the driveway, we know we have a package.
Grammar's service doggie, she's deaf, he isn't.

[MrWolf]

My puppy is the 175lb Great Pyrenees and my GF's pup is an 80lbs German Short Hair Pointer (both in my avatar pic). When outside, they let you know when their is activity about an 1/8th mile away (mountain area with no homes near us). Inside when they are all comfortable with me watching TV or something, I am the one who hears or sees a reflection change, etc.. Still wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of their personal attention if in wasn't there to tell them it is ok.

[BD]

When I was young, folks used rock salt. My backside still stings just from thinking about it. When I went to work in the bodyshop at 13, the shop truck was a real "sleeper". Early '60's ford pickup, painted by hand with a brush. It had the 429 and rear end out of a '71 Mach I. There was a boat battery switch low on the dash which if I remember this correctly in one position would be normal and in the other would disconnect the negative battery terminal and run the positive through a model A coil to the body work. You had to leave the window down and be very careful not to touch the metalwork when turning the switch. I don't think there was any draw until the bodywork was grounded, like by somebody touching the door handle ;-)

[dverna]

We are not going to make it.

[uscra112]

A model T "trembler" coil would do that, but it would run the battery down. Model A had a normal coil with points in the distributor.

[Recycled bullet]

The ignition coil of Justice. Do you just go check the garage after you hear a stranger yell really loud after they got shocked by 20,000 volts? [emoji91]

[uscra112]

I wonder what happens if you simply connect 110vac to the primary of a car coil? Would the insulation stand it? :twisted:

There are car alarms that sense the capacitance change when a human body gets close to the bodywork. You don't even have to touch it.

[David2011]

I wonder what happens if you simply connect 110vac to the primary of a car coil? Would the insulation stand it? :twisted:

There are car alarms that sense the capacitance change when a human body gets close to the bodywork. You don't even have to touch it.

The coil would probably burn out instantly and it might be pretty spectacular. If someone was injured by you putting 110VAC to the coil it's likely that you would be prosecuted.

Fortunately I live in a state where we're legally permitted to use force to protect life AND property. I don't trust the county DA, though. Funded by Soros.

[Winger Ed.]

I wonder what happens if you simply connect 110vac to the primary of a car coil?

You'll look like Uncle Fester on the Adam's Family when something blows up in his face.

[uscra112]

Well, there's always electric fence chargers.

What any of these HV tricks will do to modern car electronics isn't likely to be pretty. Or cheap.

[elmacgyver0]

Windshield washer pump, a sprayer above each door. Load the sprayer tank with skunk piss mixed with pink dye... can either have a remote sensor set it off or use a hand held remote to get them when they are facing the car with the nozzle in their face...

I like it, but somewhat curious on how you would collect the skunk piss.
Kind of thinking liquid hog manure myself.

[country gent]

There is always the old toolmakers stand by Prussian blue. Is also now known as dykem 109 hi spot blue. Its used for spotting in sliding fits and finding the hi spots when hand fitting. It dosnt dry and cant be felt on the skin. A small dab underneath each door handle and they will be colored from head to hands and arms. do each side in a different color and youll know which side they were on. It dosnt wash off will stain skin and dosnt dry. It comes in blue red green and yellow.


This is psychological but works also, and if you do know them watching the results can be fun. Set a motion detector light so it lighting delays slightly. you want them in front of the window when it lights. A note with separate lines in black magic marker. I know who you are. I know what your doing. I know where you are

[Shanghai Jack]

The dogs started barking. I picked up a pistol and went outside. There was a doofus sticking out of the roof of my jeep. Had slit the top and dropped in headfirst to see what he could grab. Pissed me off because the doors were unlocked. I yelled and a shot from the escape vehicle pinged off the brick mailbox right beside me. I took cover behind the mailbox and mag dumped the car. It careened off. Cops came by and said good job. Scary situations when every kid had a glock in their belt and don't care if they use it or not.

[MaryB]

I think sugar in the gas tank causes problems because the sugar ends up on the cylinder walls and rings and when the engine cools down, it locks the rings in place, cannot expand or rotate.

Mythbusters tested this, nope. Only thing it did was clog filters and injectors...

[MaryB]

I like it, but somewhat curious on how you would collect the skunk piss.
Kind of thinking liquid hog manure myself.

Trapping supply store, Walmart... https://www.walmart.com/ip/Jackie-s-Skunk-Urine-2-oz/137894477

[Kenstone]

About as simple as it gets, for less than $20:
https://www.harborfreight.com/home/security-safes/timers-detectors-alarms/wireless-security-alert-system-57937.html
jmo,
.

[john.k]

Guy i worked with had the tranny fail in his car ,it was insured,so he decided to leave it unlocked ,key in door ,at the most notorious train station near his work...........three weeks later it was still there ,the thieves had taken the keys ,but not the car...........Teen car stealing is epidemic here .....but they only take expensive cars ,not old junk........and joyride .....lots kill themselves in crashes ........and antics like jumping from car to car at 70 mph for their facebook pages.

[uscra112]

Those wireless Bunker Hill motion sensor alarms promise 400 foot range but actually deliver about 40. Less if there's any metal in the line of sight, (screen door, for example).