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Stopsign32v
07-25-2023, 07:44 PM
Just made 6 of these 180gr 357 magnums. Powder is 296 and I'm starting at 12.6gr and working up in .2gr up to 13.5gr and checking for flat primers and sticking cases. I'm curious what you guys think of the overall loads and how the crimp looks. Any tips?



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Edit: I just checked and with gas check and powder coating they are at 186gr and not 180gr!!!

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Recycled bullet
07-25-2023, 07:57 PM
Good looking crimp strong and consistent. Maybe slightly heavy-handed but it's okay. Do they all drop in and out of the cylinder under their own weight?

Bazoo
07-25-2023, 07:59 PM
Crimps look good to me. I like about as heavy as I can get for magnum loads though.

Stopsign32v
07-25-2023, 08:00 PM
Good looking crimp strong and consistent. Maybe slightly heavy-handed but it's okay. Do they all drop in and out of the cylinder under their own weight?

Oh yea! They roll around freely in the cylinder even when its closed and you tilt the revolver up and down.

Stopsign32v
07-25-2023, 08:01 PM
Crimps look good to me. I like about as heavy as I can get for magnum loads though.

Shes gonna be a thumper I think!

Der Gebirgsjager
07-25-2023, 08:06 PM
That's a heavy duty looking crimp. Shouldn't experience any setback! I have wondered what, if any, pressure increase one can expect from a very heavy crimp. You might ask Mr. Gibson.

DG

Stopsign32v
07-25-2023, 08:11 PM
That's a heavy duty looking crimp. Shouldn't experience any setback! I have wondered what, if any, pressure increase one can expect from a very heavy crimp. You might ask Mr. Gibson.

DG

The starting load for 180gr and 296 is 13.0gr of powder. So at 12.6gr I shouldn't have any pressure signs I would hope.

As the loads go up should I back off on this much of crimp?

00buck
07-25-2023, 08:20 PM
Looks like a good heavy crimp. If your case isn’t getting a bulge then I think it’s fine.

They are nice looking cartridges.

Wheelguns 1961
07-25-2023, 08:21 PM
You need to be very careful loading 296 below starting loads. You can experience delayed ignition. 296 doesn’t like air space. Are you using magnum primers? You should be. The crimps look good to me. I wouldn’t back them off, if they are chambering easily.

Stopsign32v
07-25-2023, 08:33 PM
You need to be very careful loading 296 below starting loads. You can experience delayed ignition. 296 doesn’t like air space. Are you using magnum primers? You should be. The crimps look good to me. I wouldn’t back them off, if they are chambering easily.

Well at this point the only data I have is this. I'd just pay attention to the starting loads for where I'm at now. There is definitely air space though in these cases though. And yes definitely using Federal magnum primers.

316319

Wheelguns 1961
07-25-2023, 09:08 PM
When I first started reloading, I loaded up some 357 magnums with H110. This was many years ago and I can’t remember all the details. I loaded them up a little light, and I could hear the primer go off, and then about a second later, the round went off.

My preference nowadays for heavy loads is 2400. You won’t get top velocity like with 296, but you get a wider range of performance, and no magnum primer is necessary. Be careful.

Wayne Smith
07-25-2023, 09:48 PM
Invest in a reloading manual. Lyman, Serria, or other major manual, not Lee. You will find many options for loads.

Yes, your crimp is more than adequate, but that isn't a problem with a magnum cartridge. You need to make sure the boolit doesn't pull forward and lock up your revolver, and those won't. I've had inadequate crimp lock up a revolver a couple of times, not fun but not a major problem either. Just push it back in the case with a pencil or dowell or something.

NSB
07-25-2023, 11:43 PM
In my opinion you have WAY too much crimp on those rounds. I mean way too much. You don’t need anywhere near that much crimp with any powder. I’ve loaded a tremendous amount of .357mag rounds over the last fifty+ years and never had a crimp problem while using a lot less crimp than what you’re using. Will it hurt anything? I doubt it, but you’re going to get a lot of cracked cases working the brass that much. As soon as you can easily see crimp you already have too much.

Tall
07-26-2023, 12:05 AM
Looks fine to me. I tried W296 maybe 40 years ago. It gave a big flame and did not impress as far as velocity or accuracy. Try 2400 for less drama, better accuracy and more velocity.

rockshooter
07-26-2023, 12:47 AM
little heavy on the crimp for me, but the pictures are wonderful!
Loren

Wheelguns 1961
07-26-2023, 12:59 AM
You can pull a bullet to see if the crimp is digging in or deforming the bullet.

Winger Ed.
07-26-2023, 02:33 AM
They look a little on the heavy side to me, but if they drop right into the cylinder- they're fine.

I'd be careful about a heavier than needed crimp, and flaring the case anymore than I had to.
The more and farther ya open and close the case mouth- the sooner it'll want to split.