anyone shooting accelerators in 30-30

[ace1001]

I got 500 sabots and started shooting .223 bullets. Not too bad. Shoots flat as a laser. Had to remove the ramp under my rear sight. If I can cast my .223 boolits, it should be cheap to shoot at 8 cents per sabot. accuracy is good with an ocasional flyaway. Maybe the sabot hung up or bullet wasn't seated properly. Ace

[square butte]

Where were you able to find the sabots? I have a friend who has s bunch but got them so long ago he can't remember where. Have'nt been able to twist his arm hard enough to get any out of him.

[Bret4207]

Why not try the Lee Soup Can mould? It's cheaper and no stinkin plastic to worry about.

[ace1001]

It would weigh more than 55gr then and would not go over 3000fps. I have a 160gr .308 GC mold that is fine for 30-30.

[jimkim]

You can get the sabots here.
http://www.eabco.com/reload02.html
http://www.ammo-one.com/SABOT.html
http://www.maadigriffin.com/sabots.htm

I have been playing with them too. I haven't tried many high velocity loads yet. So far I like 10.0gr of Unique. It is quiet(good feral cat and varmint round) and has plenty of zip. I have IMR-4198, IMR-4227, IMR-4350, IMR-4064, W-748, and BL-C(2). What works for you? If anyone has chronied the 10.0gr of Unique, I would like to know the results.

[ace1001]

34gr of IMR-3031 shoots flat as a laser and drops a coyote like knocking over a lawn ornament. Just drops in a pile.

[Bret4207]

To each their own.

[jh45gun]

Well I can see his point a soupcan is not going to shoot as fast as a one of these saboted bullets. Big question is how accurate as I have heard some say they work fine and others say accuracy is lacking. So guys how accurate are these??????????????

[frank505]

in my 64 deluxe they will do an inch and a half. the heavier bullets seem to shoot better and medium burning rate powders are much better than something on the slow side. my favorite loads are using vv 133 until i run out . gotta switch to something cheaper. i am using eabco sabots and 55 grain hornady softs.

[ace1001]

My research shows that those with 30-06 are not happy with the accuracy, but most of them have scopes and are shooting prairie dogs at 400m / 4000fps and therefore are very exacting.
The 30-30 guys are pretty happy either because of the iron sights and closer ranges or the slower load of 3200-3400fps. They are cheap to make and a hell of a lot of fun to shoot. With a little workup I think I can match the 30-30 accuracy and the flat tragectory and light recoil is very appealing.
Sabot fit is critical. The bullet must be tightly seated and bullets sized .224 so they will drop off early and consistently. Ace

[yondering]

I've shot a bunch of these in my 30-06, using the sabots from eabco and cheap 55gr sp bullets. Reloder 7 worked best, for right about 4200 fps, with reasonable accuracy. 1.5 moa was pretty obtainable, didn't work with them enough to get better than that because I got my 6mm Rem AI finished, which fires the same weight bullets at about the same velocity, but more accurately.

[Lloyd Smale]

I was fooling with them a couple years back. dont remember the powder charge but it was about a full case of re7. It actually hard to get into pressure problems with a 55 grain bullet using powders that are on the slow side for a 3030. I got many groups of 1.5 inch at a 100 yards shooting them out of a tc carbine. I too was getting velocitys of 4000 fps plus. As a matter of fact the faster you pushed them the better they seemed to shoot.

[dmdracer]

I too played with some a few months ago.

I loaded off the "load data sheet" that is on the eabco site.

I used 30,gr of IMR4198...sheet said 3300 fps... I got 2727 ??? next tried 32.0 gr..sheet said 3500 fps... mine 2934 fps ??? at this point I'm not sure what is going on...34.0gr...sheet..3700 mine 3071 fps...35.0 gr mine avg. 3180 fps.

I was not concerned about accuracy, I was trying to get the speed up close to 3200 fps, I put that project aside for awhile and tried to find more info... not much out there other than same type loads from the "sheet". I'm still keeping an eye out, thus your post caught my eye.

I'm still not sure why the diff. in fps. I was concerned about going higher untill I found more info.

Lloyd, interesting 4000 fps ???? wow. the "sheet" warned of pressures of 38.3 gr. @ 57000 psi. I've not been to that pressure as far as I know.
If you get a chance, share the load data.... I have some Re 7, I'd like to work up something, and see the difference.

All were shot from a Marlin 30 as.... love this rifle :)

Any one else have any info/exp ?

hope this may help others on this "adventure"

Dave

[Lloyd Smale]

to be honest i got the data off a guy on here and dont even remember what it was now. I know he did alot of experimenting and found it was almost impossible to get into pressure problems with them. Makes sense when you figure your only shooting a 55 grain bullet. Wish i could help you but i did that experimenting right at the time i initaialy hurt my back and dont remember much of it as it was about 3 years ago. All i can swear to is the faster i shot them the more accurately they shot and dont let anyone tell you there not capable of really good accuracy. For the most part i found them capable of more accuracy then coventional jacketed bullets or cast in my 3030s.
I too played with some a few months ago.

I loaded off the "load data sheet" that is on the eabco site.

I used 30,gr of IMR4198...sheet said 3300 fps... I got 2727 ??? next tried 32.0 gr..sheet said 3500 fps... mine 2934 fps ??? at this point I'm not sure what is going on...34.0gr...sheet..3700 mine 3071 fps...35.0 gr mine avg. 3180 fps.

I was not concerned about accuracy, I was trying to get the speed up close to 3200 fps, I put that project aside for awhile and tried to find more info... not much out there other than same type loads from the "sheet". I'm still keeping an eye out, thus your post caught my eye.

I'm still not sure why the diff. in fps. I was concerned about going higher untill I found more info.

Lloyd, interesting 4000 fps ???? wow. the "sheet" warned of pressures of 38.3 gr. @ 57000 psi. I've not been to that pressure as far as I know.
If you get a chance, share the load data.... I have some Re 7, I'd like to work up something, and see the difference.

All were shot from a Marlin 30 as.... love this rifle :)

Any one else have any info/exp ?

hope this may help others on this "adventure"

Dave