Ukrainian 9mm Luger Reamer

[deltaenterprizes]

I bought a 9mm Luger reamer on EBay from a company in 🇺🇦 Ukraine.
It finally came in today and looks pretty good but until I cut a chamber with it.
This is for my 9mm Spanish Destroyer Carbine project that is taking much longer than I expected!
The heat and cold and work is not helping either and being old and tired dampens motivation too!

[Remiel]

Bad reamer?

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[deltaenterprizes]

Bad reamer?

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I don’t think that it’s bad, I just need to cut a chamber and see how it cuts and if a factory cartridge fits!

[Remiel]

I don’t think that it’s bad, I just need to cut a chamber and see how it cuts and if a factory cartridge fits!Ah ok, same iss I have, tools, projects, but no energy or time

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[deces]

While not a reamer, Mark Serbu on youtube wasn't impressed with the ukrainian rifle buttons.

[TD1886]

While not a reamer, Mark Serbu on youtube wasn't impressed with the ukrainian rifle buttons.

I have a Ukraine 22 Magnum reamer and it's dynamite. Cut's the chamber small and the 22 Magnum becomes just as accurate as the 22 Long Rifle. I'm very pleased with it.

[deltaenterprizes]

While not a reamer, Mark Serbu on youtube wasn't impressed with the ukrainian rifle buttons.
That is why I have to make a chamber and see how it works!
I got it on EBay and they have a good money back policy.
I will make a chamber gauge and see how it works!

[405grain]

A couple of years ago a guy I know bought a reamer from Ukraine through ebay. He payed for it, then received nothing in return. About a year later I bought a different reamer from from Ukraine, also through ebay. I paid for it, and also received nothing. I was able to contact the seller over the phone and he could not have possibly hung up on me faster! I knew a friend that had immigrated from Ukraine years ago. He told me that you cannot send checks or money orders through the mail there because they will absolutely get stolen. This was all long before the Russian invasion, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. My sympathies for the people that live there, but I won't be buying anything from Ukraine anymore.

[deltaenterprizes]

A couple of years ago a guy I know bought a reamer from Ukraine through ebay. He payed for it, then received nothing in return. About a year later I bought a different reamer from from Ukraine, also through ebay. I paid for it, and also received nothing. I was able to contact the seller over the phone and he could not have possibly hung up on me faster! I knew a friend that had immigrated from Ukraine years ago. He told me that you cannot send checks or money orders through the mail there because they will absolutely get stolen. This was all long before the Russian invasion, but it left a bad taste in my mouth. My sympathies for the people that live there, but I won't be buying anything from Ukraine anymore.
I paid with PayPal so I had some protection!
Shipping was slow!

[Gtek]

I know you have let Doctor Starrett or Doctor Mitutoyo look at him before the procedure. Most things cut off cannot be put back on, I have more than I would like of those T-Shirts.

[deltaenterprizes]

I checked the reamer in 2 cartridge guages that I have and this reamer has freebore in front of the chamber!
Is 9mm NATO chamber different than a commercial chamber?
I am going to check other chambers in barrels of other barrels.

[TD1886]

I checked the reamer in 2 cartridge guages that I have and this reamer has freebore in front of the chamber!
Is 9mm NATO chamber different than a commercial chamber?
I am going to check other chambers in barrels of other barrels.

Just look up what the 9mm chamber is on SAAMI

[fc60]

Greetings,

As the reamer came from Ukraine, I suspect it is ground to CIP specifications.

https://bobp.cip-bobp.org/uploads/tdcc/tab-iv/tabivcal-en-page28.pdf

Cheers,

Dave

[deces]

That is why I have to make a chamber and see how it works!
I got it on EBay and they have a good money back policy.
I will make a chamber gauge and see how it works!

"Mark Serbu Home Shop Rifling - Part 2"

[TD1886]

I know you have let Doctor Starrett or Doctor Mitutoyo look at him before the procedure. Most things cut off cannot be put back on, I have more than I would like of those T-Shirts.

Measure twice (hey even more) cut once!

[Jedman]

I have noticed that there are sellers of chamber reamers from several foreign countries on eBay.
The thing I have noticed when looking at the photo they show for rimmed cartridges such as 357 magnum is that they don’t appear to cut the rim recess.
That might work for a lever or bolt action but not for most single shots and chambers that need the extractor cut along with the chamber. The prices are good but I watch for used reamers at a reasonable price as you can use the reamer for your project then resell them and you’re not out much in cost.
Jedman

[Willbird]

Worth taking a chunk of 12L14 and drilling and boring a hole .001 over pilot size, then reaming the whole chamber to have a look at it. I buy 12L14 bar ends off Ebay and try to keep some around in a variety of sizes. The only downside to 12L14 is that one cannot get a high strength weld onto it. Other than that it is a perfect material for a lot of one off projects. Cuts like butter, warm butter :-).

[TD1886]

Worth taking a chunk of 12L14 and drilling and boring a hole .001 over pilot size, then reaming the whole chamber to have a look at it. I buy 12L14 bar ends off Ebay and try to keep some around in a variety of sizes. The only downside to 12L14 is that one cannot get a high strength weld onto it. Other than that it is a perfect material for a lot of one off projects. Cuts like butter, warm butter :-).

One shouldn't cut the whole chamber from the get go with a finishing reamer. It's really not meant to do that. Wears it out faster.

[Moleman-]

I checked the reamer in 2 cartridge guages that I have and this reamer has freebore in front of the chamber!
Is 9mm NATO chamber different than a commercial chamber?
I am going to check other chambers in barrels of other barrels.

Don't know about your reamer, but my Manson 9mm NATO reamer (bottom) is slightly larger in the case body area and has a longer freebore compared to a Manson 9mm Luger reamer (top).

The bottom reamer I got used from a guy who said he worked for Storm Lake. It has chambered about two dozen barrels since I've owned it without the rougher. Out of curiosity I asked manson if done correctly about how many barrels they were good for. They said at least 60 with the TIALN coating, so I opted for that when ordering the 9mm Luger reamer on top.

[deltaenterprizes]

Worth taking a chunk of 12L14 and drilling and boring a hole .001 over pilot size, then reaming the whole chamber to have a look at it. I buy 12L14 bar ends off Ebay and try to keep some around in a variety of sizes. The only downside to 12L14 is that one cannot get a high strength weld onto it. Other than that it is a perfect material for a lot of one off projects. Cuts like butter, warm butter :-).
Thanks for the advice!
I will look for some on eBay!

[Willbird]

One shouldn't cut the whole chamber from the get go with a finishing reamer. It's really not meant to do that. Wears it out faster.

Well all things are relative. Lots and lots of folks buy a finisher only for their project and the world does not end. And 12L14 is about the kindest steel on earth as far as being free machining and easy to cut.

Bill

[deltaenterprizes]

I ordered an assortment of sizes on eBay for a decent price!

[TD1886]

Well all things are relative. Lots and lots of folks buy a finisher only for their project and the world does not end. And 12L14 is about the kindest steel on earth as far as being free machining and easy to cut.

Bill

True but a good gunsmith would never hog out the chamber with a finish reamer.

[Willbird]

True but a good gunsmith would never hog out the chamber with a finish reamer.

A "Good Gunsmith" makes their own decisions based upon their needs, spending double the money on a rougher for every one off rifle you build is a poor economy IMHO and what has been accomplished by spending that money ?? If it is something you will use over and over sure. The world does not explode if you run a finisher in 1/16" at a time or .100 (my Grizzly lathe has a .100 handwheel" and clean the chips off each time.

So you can have 10 reamers you have used once with each one having a rougher, or you can have 20 reamers you may use once and maybe have one sharpened some day once you have done a dozen chambers with it ;-).

Especially with something like 9x19, not that much metal is being removed.


Bill

[Doughty]

Well said Willbird.

[Moleman-]

+2 on what Willbird said. I have over a dozen straight wall cartridge finisher type chamber reamers but no straight wall roughers. I have roughers for bottleneck reamers if I plan on reaming several chambers with it but not for ones that will only be used once or twice.

[405grain]

+3 on what Willbird said. You only need a rougher if your running a production shop. A finisher reamer can be used of several barrels, and if not abused, will still be sharp & accurate.

[Moleman-]

If you don't already have some, you can get dark cutting oil at many hardware stores in the plumbing isle for steel pipe threading. I get a jug of the Ridged brand about every other year. It works great for chamber reamers.

[fc60]

Greetings,

I searched eBay for "Chamber Reamer" and found several offerings from Communist China and Ukraine.

Neither of them had "floating pilots".

Perhaps okay for hobby use.

I will stick with the Made In USA JGS brand.

Cheers,

Dave

[TD1886]

Greetings,

I searched eBay for "Chamber Reamer" and found several offerings from Communist China and Ukraine.

Neither of them had "floating pilots".

Perhaps okay for hobby use.

I will stick with the Made In USA JGS brand.

Cheers,

Dave

Floating pilot is not necessary the best all the time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUCY5Uw7Yis

[45_Colt]

If you don't already have some, you can get dark cutting oil at many hardware stores in the plumbing isle for steel pipe threading. I get a jug of the Ridged brand about every other year. It works great for chamber reamers.

This/agreed, you want the cutting oil that stinks. The stench is from the sulfur in the oil which is what gives it the extreme pressure (EP) properties.

45_Colt

[deltaenterprizes]

If you don't already have some, you can get dark cutting oil at many hardware stores in the plumbing isle for steel pipe threading. I get a jug of the Ridged brand about every other year. It works great for chamber reamers.

Exactly what I use!