Bullet molds for 45 colt black powder

[RyanJames170]

What are some molds I could use for black powder 45 colt that would have enough lube capacity, also where would I get said molds? Ideally I would like 250 grain range

[Springfield]

Accuratemolds.com

[jrmartin1964]

If you are asking in regard to revolvers, Lyman's No.454190. This has been the classic design for .45 Colt since the days when black powder was the only powder. It carried enough lube then, it will carry enough lube now.

If your query is in regard to barrels longer than 7-1/2 inches... say, a lever action with a barrel of 16 to 24 inches... then someone else will have to chime in, as I am a stranger to such.

Jim

[RyanJames170]

If you are asking in regard to revolvers, Lyman's No.454190. This has been the classic design for .45 Colt since the days when black powder was the only powder. It carried enough lube then, it will carry enough lube now.

If your query is in regard to barrels longer than 7-1/2 inches... say, a lever action with a barrel of 16 to 24 inches... then someone else will have to chime in, as I am a stranger to such.

Jim


I would be looking for a bullet to use for both

[Don McDowell]

Don't know if they still make it or not but the RCBS 250 KT is a good one

[Outpost75]

Current production Lyman #454190 does not have adequate lube capacity for black powder. Nor do any of the current RCBS molds. Accurate has a good selection of .45 Colt molds suited for either smokeless or black powder. Some of Tom's options. Not a comprehensive list:

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[HWooldridge]

45-251C is one I had suggested. It’s based on John Kort’s design for the 44-40 and is an upsized version, which holds enough lube for BP loads. I use it in both rifle and revolver.

[Outpost75]

45-251C is one I had suggested. It’s based on John Kort’s design for the 44-40 and is an upsized version, which holds enough lube for BP loads. I use it in both rifle and revolver.

Agree. Only reason for the 260 and 265 grainers is to raise point of impact without filing the sight on an antique.

Tom has lighter .45 bullets with adequate lube capacity if needed.

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[RyanJames170]

Agree. Only reason for the 260 and 265 grainers is to raise point of impact without filing the sight on an antique.
Tom has lighter .45 bullets with adequate lube capacity if needed.

The 251gr one would be up my ally even for smoakless loads

[Outpost75]

The 251gr one would be up my ally even for smoakless loads

It will do well for you. 6.5 grains of Bullseye matches factory velocity. You can load up to 7.5 grains in post-1920 Colt New Service and Gen2 and later Colts and modern Italian clones.

[RyanJames170]

I use various lead alloys some of it I really don’t know what it is as it’s part scrap lead bullets and cores along with other stuff, what alloy would I want to pick when ordering this bullet mold so I can garentee I can drop bullets large enough to size to .452-.454 but not to big that I will lose to much of the lube groove on the 45-251C

[Outpost75]

I use various lead alloys some of it I really don’t know what it is as it’s part scrap lead bullets and cores along with other stuff, what alloy would I want to pick when ordering this bullet mold so I can garentee I can drop bullets large enough to size to .452-.454 but not to big that I will lose to much of the lube groove on the 45-251C

Order mold from Accurate to cast .453 in straight wheelweights, specifying " tolerance centered." This should produce bullets .453 +/- 0.001" so you can either size to .452 or tweak alloy to drop .454-.455 as cast. Adding 1% tin to the alloy will increase diameter about 0.001". Adding 2% tin will increase diameter about 0.0015".

[RyanJames170]

Order mold from Accurate to cast .453 in straight wheelweights, specifying " tolerance centered." This should produce bullets .453 +/- 0.001" so you can either size to .452 or tweak alloy to drop .454-.455 as cast. Adding 1% tin to the alloy will increase diameter about 0.001". Adding 2% tin will increase diameter about 0.0015".


Thank you, I wanted to ask as my current mold is dropping just big enough at .453 to size to .452

[stubshaft]

For BP loads in a 45 Colt you should check out Big Lube molds (formerly Dick Dastardly) They are specifically designed to hold ample lube in them.

[freakonaleash]

I have a mold from ACCURATE. 220gr that drops at .452 so I don't have to fool around with sizing.

[Don McDowell]

Thank you, I wanted to ask as my current mold is dropping just big enough at .453 to size to .452
My RCBS 250 Kt holds enough lube for blackpowder provided you use a good proven bp lube, and doesn't need sizing just pan lube. Plus delivers on target with good accuracy to 300 yards.

[RyanJames170]

My RCBS 250 Kt holds enough lube for blackpowder provided you use a good proven bp lube, and doesn't need sizing just pan lube. Plus delivers on target with good accuracy to 300 yards.

I am planning to run BP in a rifle as well at some point. So I would like a bullet that can do a rifle.

[Don McDowell]

That rcbs bullet and the lee 250 gr swc are my go to bullets in the 45 Colt
The lee isn’t t real good with black but it works

[Gunlaker]

I used to use that RCBS mold in a Ruger Vaquero and an 1894 Marlin. It worked really well lubed with DGL. In the Marlin, maybe due to the fat chamber, I could shoot until I got bored without fouling being a problem. I do live in a pretty humid area though. Accuracy was good in the rifle, even better than the 250gr Hornady HP/XTP bullets. Hard to say in the Vaquero. I can chuck rocks more accurately than I can shoot a revolver :-)

Chris.

[Harter66]

I have a Rapine 458-201 that casts 459 at 255 gr I believe it was intended for 1st generation Colts and their ilk . It has lots of lube capacity. I would second Big Lube or the assorted Lee based moulds from Track of the Wolf .

[Gobeyond]

I would go with. a Lyman/ideal 454424 with the big square groove. It’s a Keith Later Lyman changed it to slanted or rounded LG.
But these later ones don’t hold as much lube. A 255 grain was used in original load of bp. That’s what I’m going to use.