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theindianabriklayer
04-26-2023, 09:35 PM
Hello,
Looking for advise on a 1916 Spanish mauser.
This was a Hunters lodge special( very special).
When disassembling; The front barrel band was rusted solid along with the cleaning rod.
In short the stock broke just in front of the middle barrel band. Should I try to find a donor stock to fix the original or just put a sporter stock on it? Boyds?
Not a bad looking rifle where the wood was not touching. Bore is nice and so is the bolt.
I see no reason this will not be a good shooter.
Advise?

Der Gebirgsjager
04-26-2023, 09:40 PM
I've never seen exactly that situation before, and a couple of photos would be nice. Any of your proposed solutions would work. I guess it comes down to do you want to keep the original military appearance, or would you be just as happy with a sporter? If you're good at wood working you could maybe just cut the stock off smoothly on either side of the break, and then splice in a piece of good wood of about the same color. Might have to inlet the barrel channel. Shouldn't be too hard to find a complete original military stock either.

DG

Remiel
04-26-2023, 09:50 PM
Ive noticd the Spanish carbines are very weak in that area, me and a couple buds got some 1916 carbines from old western scrounge and every stock was damaged or broken at the front barrel band, the wood there is so thin and the retainer is oversized in comparison.

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armoredman
04-26-2023, 10:20 PM
@LAGS, I think you have some expertise in this area?

theindianabriklayer
04-26-2023, 10:33 PM
Ok,
Like to hear how the other fixed or handled this issue.
It is enough for me just to be saving an old mauser.
I don't need a safe queen. keep in mind that this is a $100 rifle .
I just want to plink and hunt with it. No scope I don't want to cover the crest.
love the input.
Thanks

racepres
04-27-2023, 07:47 AM
The last one I repaired, I used a broken Mosin stock I believe.. Removed a Piece of barrel channel, and grafted it onto the Spanish (Oviedo)
Pinned and Glued...then reshaped.. Not Beautiful...Not Hideous.. Good Enough
If possible to Band-Aid the point of Breakage, and hide with Barrel Band...Even Better... I have More Problems with Handguards on these!!

LAGS
04-27-2023, 11:01 AM
I have done restoration on a bunch of military stocks.
I was able to repair them or make them into Sporter stocks.
Depending on what kind of damage is there, or what you want to make out of it.
If I saw pictures of the condition of your stock , I could give you some tips.
In fact "Armorman" has a 1916 Spanish rifle that I rebuilt the stock and even installed a 8x57 barrel on it.
Possibly he could post some pictures of that project.

pworley1
04-27-2023, 12:36 PM
From the way you describe the rifle and its intended use, I would just remove the hand guard,cut the stock at the break and use it as is.

LAGS
04-27-2023, 01:12 PM
On many Mauser stocks that had the forend damaged.
I cut the stock off and glued a hunk of wood to the stock using the cleaning rod hole for a dowel to secure the nose cap better.
Then shaped the nose cap to fit the barrel and extend and make it to a Sporter style stock.

theindianabriklayer
04-27-2023, 01:36 PM
Yes,
If I can get my I phone to work, with me, I will post a photo.
At this point I will cut the stock and see how it looks . If I don't mind the look,then it will get a good cleaning and reoiled.
I will try to rebuild the stock otherwise.
Thanks

LAGS
04-27-2023, 02:25 PM
I have found that refurbishing the military stocks is well worth it over spending big bucks on a new stock.
Unless you are going to totally refurbish the metal parts also or build it into a custom rifle.
On many stocks.
I cut flat areas onto the stock ,like the bottom of the butstock area.
Then I glued wood to that area and reshaped it like a Monte Carlo grip rather than leave it with a straight grip.
The same thing can be done to the top of the butstock to reshape the cheekpiece.
I did many stocks like that back when I had access to a stock duplicator.
Then the original reshaped stock was used as a pattern to make Sporter stocks.
But the pattern stocks did get used on rifles and I still shoot several of them.

armoredman
04-27-2023, 02:43 PM
Uh oh, I don't have any current photos, will have to get one. That little gem works well and looks good.

armoredman
04-27-2023, 11:56 PM
Here ya go!

https://i.imgur.com/d6TKTGZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9uJva6w.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XDgjHct.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SWrhtgF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OysgPSw.jpg

LAGS
04-28-2023, 12:56 AM
Thank you Armoredman.
That rifle when I got it , had the forend cracked.
So it was cut off and the nose cap was glued on.

Texas by God
04-28-2023, 01:14 AM
From experience with two 1916 7mm rifles- I’d recommend slugging the barrel first. If you feel loose spots(probably) it won’t be much of a shooter.
They are good actions, though.
I rebarreled both of mine.


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LAGS
04-28-2023, 01:31 AM
The rifle Armoredman has.
It had a .308 barrel that was in poor shape.
So I installed an 8x57 small ring Turkish Mauser barrel.
I cut the barrel shorter because the last 3" of the Turkish barrel were worn from cleaning and some rust.
So rebarreling them is an option if the barrel on yours is bad , or you want to change calibers.
Oh.
That Turkish Mauser that had the bad barrel.
It is now a full custom rifle with a homemade stock and a 25-06 barrel

WILCO
05-06-2023, 12:10 AM
Thank you Armoredman.
That rifle when I got it , had the forend cracked.
So it was cut off and the nose cap was glued on.

My heart skipped a beat! Great job!

armoredman
05-06-2023, 03:18 AM
You should see what LAGS is capable of - the man is amazing.
Actually, you can, in this thread...
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?442059-Bubbaed-Barrel-repair

GregLaROCHE
05-07-2023, 04:57 PM
The stock can probably be repaired if you want to keep it original. Epoxy is amazing if you know how to use it correctly.

Cree
05-07-2023, 11:31 PM
Depending on how “deep” you want to go with this, I see a decent number of small ring stocks come through epay - usually in that 1960s “sporter” look that wasn’t quite military, wasn’t quite sporter, but was good enough for mail order sales. Same thing on GB, but this past week or so, I’ve been looking a lot at both, looking for a cut down large ring stock to reconfigure for a Type I Carcano and the GB stocks are ALL a lot less than the epay ones. Still, might get lucky. The way I see it, you pay with time or you pay with money…