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pete501
03-30-2023, 09:05 PM
Has anyone seen a true rimless 380 Auto cartridge?

This was found while sorting out my junk ammo, mostly found or reloading boo-boo's.

I suspect a manufacture defect.

redhawk0
03-30-2023, 09:16 PM
I'd say defect...there would be no way to extract it from a chamber.....or it could have been made as a projectile. Seeing that it's primed...I doubt the later.

redhawk

Battis
03-30-2023, 09:27 PM
What info is on the headstamp?

pete501
03-30-2023, 11:10 PM
Blazer 380 Auto

Texas by God
03-31-2023, 09:35 AM
Wow. I haven’t seen that since….Never!
How in the world did it get loaded?
I guess the loading machinery doesn’t use shell holders?


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G W Wade
03-31-2023, 10:45 AM
Interesting, might be worth some free ammo. GW

FergusonTO35
03-31-2023, 12:48 PM
How old is it? I wouldn't be surprised if it was during an election year or covid, when manufacturers were doing everything they could to get product out the door.

Scorpion8
03-31-2023, 01:42 PM
Could have been from a test run lot to see if the rim was needed, since 380's are blowback anyway. No rim saves on brass costs. Huh. Wonder....

elmacgyver0
03-31-2023, 02:27 PM
Could have been from a test run lot to see if the rim was needed, since 380's are blowback anyway. No rim saves on brass costs. Huh. Wonder....

There are some locked breech 380s out there.

MT Gianni
03-31-2023, 06:58 PM
Swedged case to make a bullet.

Bigslug
03-31-2023, 08:31 PM
In my time I've seen factory ammo with:

Bullets seated backwards

Bullets not fully swaged to shape

Bullets seated off-center (crushed case mouth)

Primers in sideways or backwards

No flash hole drilled in the primer pocket

A single round of one type of a manufacturer's duty round mixed in with a box of ANOTHER of their duty rounds.

+P stamped brass used to load ammo boxed as non-+P (verified by disassembly)

But totally rimless and not an 1800's pinfire round? That is indeed a first.

Texas Gun
03-31-2023, 08:57 PM
be fun to have

gwpercle
04-01-2023, 01:26 PM
Could have been from a test run lot to see if the rim was needed, since 380's are blowback anyway. No rim saves on brass costs. Huh. Wonder....

I discovered a blowback 22 LR (Ruger 10/22) doesn't need an extractor to fire and cycle just like it was designed that way . It fed , fired and ejected shots as if nothing was amiss ... I only noticed the extractor missing when I went to unload a chambered round ... the round simply stayed in the chamber ... that was when I noticed that the extractor was ...gone .
My habit is to load 5 or 10 rounds and shoot them all ... this time I decided to not fire the chambered round ... I thing it must have been blown off when an overly hot Winchester Wildcat round was fired ... that lot of ammo was recalled by Winchester ... but it was a while before I realized the extractor had gone bye-bye ! Ruger repaired the gun and gave me a new magazine !
Gary

bedbugbilly
04-03-2023, 05:40 PM
Interesting! That would e worth building a display case around it - an oddity for sure.