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toot
02-27-2023, 08:22 AM
I have a 22 CAL, tip up single shot that tips up for loading like a MAYNARD riffle. same type of action. it is marked J. STEVENS ARMS CO. CHICKOPEE FALLS. MASS. and has the marking on the side MARKSMAN. any one know what it is and is it a MAYNARD GUN.

Jedman
02-27-2023, 08:54 AM
It sounds like you have the Stevens no. 12 rifle. It has the Maynard style action but is a Stevens Marksman model.
They were an improvement over the earlier Maynard Jr. no. 15 rifle the no. 12 was produced from 1912 - 1933 and were in 22 long, 25 long, and 32 long rimfire calibers.

Jedman

toot
02-27-2023, 09:49 AM
It sounds like you have the Stevens no. 12 rifle. It has the Maynard style action but is a Stevens Marksman model.
They were an improvement over the earlier Maynard Jr. no. 15 rifle the no. 12 was produced from 1912 - 1933 and were in 22 long, 25 long, and 32 long rimfire calibers.

Jedman

thank you so much sir, for the reply to my question. now I know that I sorta have a true MAYNARD action 22. are they scarce & any value to them, mine is about 60%. if you know?

Rusty Goose
02-27-2023, 10:52 AM
I have a Stevens Marksman in .22 long. It is very rough, heavy rust from sitting in a barn for years. I shoot shorts through it. It's a fun little rifle. Even in it's terrible condition I paid $150, it was worth it to me.

Deadeye Bly
02-27-2023, 11:28 AM
While not a true Maynard action it works on the same principal as the Maynard. They are one of the better Stevens boys rifles. The lever screws are quite small and a little wear makes the action lock up loosely.

toot
02-28-2023, 08:39 AM
I have a Stevens Marksman in .22 long. It is very rough, heavy rust from sitting in a barn for years. I shoot shorts through it. It's a fun little rifle. Even in it's terrible condition I paid $150, it was worth it to me.

I agree with you, I rely like mine & it functions with out a flaw. thanks for the price check. the only bad thing with mine is that the toe of the but plate about 1 inch is missing, but the S with STEVENS in it is intact.

toot
02-28-2023, 08:42 AM
Deadeye Bly. mine locks up rely tight with no slop. did STEVENS copy the MAYNARD design? just courious?

Deadeye Bly
02-28-2023, 10:26 AM
Stevens bought out Maynard after Dr Maynard passed away but never produced any Maynards. They made several prototypes of improved Maynards but never put any of them in production. The Marksman works similar to the Maynard in that the barrel tips up by lowering the lever but it is not a copy of the Maynard.

Green Frog
02-28-2023, 01:46 PM
Along about that time they even labeled one of their tip up rifles the “Maynard Jr” to profit from the Maynard reputation.[smilie=w:

toot
02-28-2023, 05:08 PM
Stevens bought out Maynard after Dr Maynard passed away but never produced any Maynards. They made several prototypes of improved Maynards but never put any of them in production. The Marksman works similar to the Maynard in that the barrel tips up by lowering the lever but it is not a copy of the Maynard.

thank you so much sir for the history lesion on them. does any one know where that I can get a replacement but plate?

toot
02-28-2023, 05:10 PM
Along about that time they even labeled one of their tip up rifles the “Maynard Jr” to profit from the Maynard reputation.[smilie=w:

capitalism at it's best. any thing to make a buck, even back in the day.

jdsingleshot
03-03-2023, 11:35 AM
pix please

Jedman
03-05-2023, 09:44 AM
thank you so much sir for the history lesion on them. does any one know where that I can get a replacement but plate?

There is a seller on eBay that has a lot of reproduction butt plates for old guns. I looked and there is a Stevens butt plate that just has the word STEVENS in a S shaped form that probably is not the exact style your rifle had originally but if it is near the correct size it does look period correct.

Jedman

ascast
03-05-2023, 10:06 AM
butt plate - I got one off ebay for an English model Stevens. It fits and works to task, but is awfully crude. Looks like a child made it. but it works

uscra112
03-05-2023, 12:23 PM
The only major similarity that the Marksman has to the Maynard is that the barrel is held tightly to the water table by a toggle linkage. An excellent feature.

It's a pretty strong action for a boys' rifle. Stevens produced a centerfire version (Model 101) with a shotgun barrel chambered for the old 44-Shot round. Some misguided individuals have lengthened the chamber to take a .410 shell. These don't blow up immediately, but I doubt many get shot much. The recoil would be "sharp".

The similarity of the Model 12 and the Model 101 is so close that you can swap the entire "front end" of a Model 12 onto a Model 101 by removing the hinge screw. Thus I now have a .25 RF barrel on one of my 101s, in pursuit of my .25 Stevens centerfire project.

The only criticism I have is that the hammer is small and light, so the hammer blow isn't much. Fine for .22s, but not enough to set off a .22 Magnum, for example.

toot
03-05-2023, 12:32 PM
There is a seller on eBay that has a lot of reproduction butt plates for old guns. I looked and there is a Stevens butt plate that just has the word STEVENS in a S shaped form that probably is not the exact style your rifle had originally but if it is near the correct size it does look period correct.

Jedman

what did you punch in to get the STEVENS in an S, to come up, on FLEABAY, as I want to find the post? if you don't mind?

uscra112
03-05-2023, 12:38 PM
Might look at Wisner's or Jack First for your buttplate. Just eyeballing mine, it looks like the buttplate for a 1915 Favorite would be a very close fit. Or search "stevens favorite buttplate" on evilBay or Gunbroker.

toot
03-05-2023, 12:42 PM
uscra112, I found it for $19.95. + ship. thanks for all the help. you guys are great, thanks so much.

toot
03-05-2023, 12:48 PM
[QUOTE=uscra112;5544475]Might look at Wisner's or Jack First for your buttplate. Just eyeballing mine, it looks like the buttplate for a 1915 Favorite would be a very close fit. Or search "stevens favorite buttplate" on evilBay or Gunbroker. sorry but I don't know what you mean look at Wisner's or Jack First,? but found them on the other places you listed, thanks again.

pietro
03-05-2023, 01:52 PM
[QUOTE=uscra112;5544475]

I don't know what you mean look at Wisner's or Jack First,?


For future reference, they both are parts suppliers

http://www.wisnersinc.com/part-catelog/

https://jackfirstinc.com/

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uscra112
03-05-2023, 02:21 PM
Bookmark those. Jack First has just about every part you might need.

dtknowles
03-06-2023, 12:56 AM
except maybe an extractor for a pocket rifle

uscra112
03-06-2023, 02:00 AM
Well, OK, everything for a Marksman tip-up.