NEF .22 hornet

[Wolfdog91]

Had this thing for close to two years now and finally decided to order some parts to tweak it and get it shooting, should be fun
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[JimB..]

Planning to keep it as a hornet or ream to k-hornet?

[Shawlerbrook]

The 22 Hornet is a fun little gun. That is sweet. What is the problem with the hammer on the gun now ?

[Wolfdog91]

The 22 Hornet is a fun little gun. That is sweet. What is the problem with the hammer on the gun now ?
Noting really , works as it's supposed to from the factory but with that, 5lbs trigger pull and the process to do a trigger job with the factory system is ...a pain to say the least. These rebounding hammers let you do a really nice trigger job and you get rid of like 60% of the "guts"

[Wolfdog91]

Planning to keep it as a hornet or ream to k-hornet?

Probably just keep it the way it is honestly

[405grain]

Put a good scope on that and you'll have an excellent varmint gun. Do you have ground hogs where you live? If not, pretend that raccoons and possums are just "tree ground hogs". If you later decide to put a reamer into it and convert to 22 K-Hornet, the main attraction for that (besides the velocity gain) is that K-Hornet cases generally last longer than Hornet cases because they headspace off the shoulder instead of the rim. Nice rifle, looks like fun.

[Bored1]

You're having ALL the fun lately!!! Depending on expense for you locally, and your mechanics skills, I would consider having I changed to a khornet. Had the opportunity to fire an older friends years ago and have always been looking for one, but cost for me locally has been prohibitive.

[1Hawkeye]

Winchester brass, Lil gun powder,rem 7 1/2 primers,and hornady 35 gr vmax you'll be all set.

[tunnug]

If you don't mind me asking, where did you find the parts? Numrich?

Never mind, found it,

[Fishoot]

Okay, how about a link to those parts, please?

[Shawlerbrook]

I wish someone would resurrect the NEF/H&R line like Ruger is doing for Marlin.

[sukivel]

I wish someone would resurrect the NEF/H&R line like Ruger is doing for Marlin.

I agree! And add some cool calibers too!


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[Texas by God]

Plus one on the rebounding hammer!
The transfer bar is a solution with no problem to solve in my opinion.
In that break open action, just size the case enough to hold the bullet correctly and the brass will last longer.
Some folks prefer to use small pistol primers.


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[tward]

Looks like you’ll have fun with that! I got rid of mine when I got into Contenders. I had good luck with 2400, lil gun and 4227. I got pressure signs(hard to open action , flattened primers) with 296. Have fun but beware of the fearsome recoil,!Tim

[Texas by God]

There’s a guy on GBO that makes brass fittings for those that will look good with that gold hammer!
When you convert it to rebounding hammer, would you mind doing a thread on it?

[tunnug]

Yes to what TBG said, I've got a .410 that had a broken transfer bar that's giving me trouble still, new transfer bar drops too soon so hammer barely hits the firing pin, changing to rebounding would solve the problem I believe.

[kenton]

I wish someone would resurrect the NEF/H&R line like Ruger is doing for Marlin.

I believe PSA bought out the H&R name. I was super pumped because if anyone could make a cheap break action of acceptable quality PSA could. Turns out PSA is making retro H&R AR15 lowers with the name.

I am rather disappointed.

[Outer Rondacker]

Funny I just tried to get a buddy to part with the same gun with no luck. I love me some single shot fun. Looks like you have plenty of wood if you choose to give it a sanding and refinish the stock. Those guns just feel so right when you pull them up and shoulder them.

[JimB..]

Noting really , works as it's supposed to from the factory but with that, 5lbs trigger pull and the process to do a trigger job with the factory system is ...a pain to say the least. These rebounding hammers let you do a really nice trigger job and you get rid of like 60% of the "guts"

I’ve got a few of these guns, and the triggers are not a joy. I’ve switched over to contenders for some calibers, but if there is a way to get a decent trigger for the princely sum of $40 I’d be all for that. Appreciate any details!

[1Hawkeye]

Wolf dog I forgot to mention don't use that 35 gr vmax on anything you want to go to the taxidermist. It's icky on the way out.

[Wolfdog91]

Okay, how about a link to those parts, please?

Sorry for taking so long to reply
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/846090

I'd also reccomended ordering a new hammer spring because you need to bend the old one out more for it to work properly and depending on yours it might be too old and break. Honestly you could probably just order a spring that perfect from a hardware supplier but I'm not good at all when it comes to measurements

[Wolfdog91]

Yes to what TBG said, I've got a .410 that had a broken transfer bar that's giving me trouble still, new transfer bar drops too soon so hammer barely hits the firing pin, changing to rebounding would solve the problem I believe.

A broken transfer bar is actually what led me down this route! Their some stuff you can do with modifications to the existing hammer but the thing isn't completely case hardens so att the work you do gets ground off after a few dozen firings. Alot of folks hat the idea of a rebounding hammer because if you drop it while fill cocked it can't save you but honestly walking around with a hammer gun in full cock just goes against basic safety imo. The only time mind gets kicked is right before I pull the trigger and I'm on target.
I will say though I wish I could find someone who makes parts because these are going to run out eventually and the current one could use some tweaks

[Wolfdog91]

I wish someone would resurrect the NEF/H&R line like Ruger is doing for Marlin.

Me to but from my understanding all the tooling was bought and scrapped. That being said I feel a company like PSA or heck ,bear creek even could come up with new tooling fairly easy compared to other guns

[Wolfdog91]

So.... Found out I do t have really any 1" scope rings any more [emoji849] swear I had 10 extras but guess not.any how stole the pic mount off my Ultra Varmint because even though I pefer how thick the original factory ones are , they just suck when it comes to mounting a scope like i need . ( I'm a smaller guy so I need my scopes lower and further back then most people) and since I can seem to find any of my 1inch rings I had to use a 30mm scope aaannd the only one I had to spare was my big 8-24 Muller. Looked kinda goofy so I tooth the 4" sub shade off it and added one of my Amazon special strap on cheek risers and honestly I don't think it looks too bad. Little more then I'd like but it's close to the tactical/traditional mix I like.
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[Fishoot]

Thanks Wolfdog91!

[hoodat]

I wonder If my NEF .410 would accept a Hornet barrel?? AND-- are the hornets these days .223 or .224 groove dia.? jd

[txbirdman]

310524310524Mine is an H&R with the transfer bar bought it 35 years ago for my oldest son to hunt deer with. He killed a 14 point with 1 shot (his first). My other son got his first one with it also. I’ve killed a few gobblers with it. Also got a few coyotes with it.

[JimB..]

Thanks @Wolddog91 now I gotta get in the shop and figure out which spring I need!

[Texas by God]

Another plus is that the old style rebounding hammer has a lower spur- making lower scope mounting possible. My transfer bar(NEF called it a striker) model 158 requires higher scope rings than my rebounding model 490 does.


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[sukivel]

Another plus is that the old style rebounding hammer has a lower spur- making lower scope mounting possible. My transfer bar(NEF called it a striker) model 158 requires higher scope rings than my rebounding model 490 does.


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How do you know if it’s the old style or not?

My hornet scope is high as well but my 25-06 scope sits much lower.


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[Texas by God]

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These are Toppers, not NEF.
The taller hammer spur in the middle is a transfer bar action. The other two are rebounding hammer style.
I’m not sure if they used the RH style after NEF took over.


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[JAMESGR]

Good looking rifle Wolfdog91.
I have two in 30-06 one has a factory fit 44 mag barrel. Never shot the 30-06, just the 44.
According to NEF all shotguns are on a SB-1 receiver ang can't handle the pressure of rifle rounds. Rifles are on a SB-2 receiver. Barrels need to be head spaced by a gunsmith.
James

[Wolfdog91]

So the weather finally evens out and I got a chance to shoot it ! Problem is everyone was out planting or fertilizing the pastures so couldn't shoot my usual spot.
So dragged myself to the local public range and as much as I hate it lol I shot off the bench . Caldwell Rock BR front rest little crappy wedge rearbag so nice and steady
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So gotta say it's not the worst thing in the world but man I hate glass break triggers with no creep and I definitely hate them when their 5+lbs ! Also the grip isn't the best if you have small hand like me. Never felt super comfortable especially compared to my Ultra Varmints thumbhole stock ( don't use the thumbhole in a traditional fashion but it's much closer to the trigger and better fits my hand). But anyhow 50yd 5rd groups PPU 45gr SP
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So looking like this girl may suffer from the cure many handi's have of split grouping but I'm not sure yet. Once I put this rebounding hammer in and adjust the trigger we'll see. Will probably do the o ring trick as well

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[M-Tecs]

Not a great solution but if you need to get the scope back more you can use both rings in front of the turret for low recoil applications.

[Wolfdog91]

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[Fishoot]

Hey Wolfie, Thanks for posting the video. I hope you do one on the trigger mod with the new parts. Also, what is the O-ring trick? If you lived a little closer, I would cut a beefier rail to fit. I fell for one of the NEF guns too. It was also in .22 hornet but I made a .32 H&R stub-barrel job for the rifle just because I could. I love messing with rifles!

[tward]

Wolfedog91, liked your video. My handirifle also had a terrible trigger and the ejector was quite astonishing with it power! I’ll shoot you a PM about some Hornet stiff that may interest you!
Your fan, Tim

[Wolfdog91]

Okie dokie I'm back, shot video on this whole deal but can't find my flash drive for my phone so I can't edit anything through now.
Anyhow, was able to to get to Putin the rebounding hammer and work the trigger. No in short for the first time you basically gut the receiver of about everything except the firing pin assembly all your going to need is you new hammer the hammer spring ( always use a new one ,the old one can be brittle and break)the the trigger group. Can toss about everything else.
I like to buff all the pins with really light grit and paper then fine steel who'll to make them silky smooth and ad with a nicer trigger as well a re greasing every thing. Btw something that I've found to be a big hel is to make a jig with a bit of 2x4. I trace out my receiver to keep myself in line then pop my pins intot he wood enough to leave indents for each pin location. Then I just trill the holes out. Makes life a lot easier.
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[Wolfdog91]

Bow I do modify the hammer spring by bending the legs out butttt I'm staring to wonder how necessary this is. Honestly if you can just find a hard war store spring with the right legs you'll probably be better off.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230306/83f6f4c324851ccc3bf20bb361098f22.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230306/1769aa0ab43a2715517092316659a0c3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230306/4e574b826f202a85a2c3bb240c092788.jpg
The rebounding hammer on the left compared the the factory transfer bar hammer on the right. As you see you need to add a roll pin and trim it to the rebound hammer. It's don't pretty easy with the use of a Dremel cut off wheel and a tiny hammer. Fitment does take a little bit but when it's in enough the hammer should have free movement until you add the spring back
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Now to adjust your trigger pulley you need to file our sand these two points. The set notch ,tooth or TL what you want to call it and the top of the trigger. Personally I like to round off the top of the trigger ever so slightly and then sand doin the tooth's height and widen the angle . BE VERY CAREFUL HERE !!!
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All that a long with a spritz of graphite lock lube and I've gone from 5+ lbs to 1.4lbs. would probably be right under 2 lbs but that graphite lube is some kind a SLICK !https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230306/b4e1cbf81496d6acadee438e0b0b9b30.jpg

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[Wolfdog91]

Ok so since I'm trying to pinpoint what actually does " the trick" with this I'm trying to do everything the same and I lay changing one thing at a time. So from the "base" meaning how it was from my first shots I will do the same thing not messing with anything else except one thing at a time. That way I can ,again , be able to pin point the exact moment I see noticable changes. So right now , same scope , same stock, same reset same shooting style , same ammo same target ect. Everything is the same except the trigger job.

So was a beautiful day , range was dead empty so was able to have a nice uninterrupted hour to shoot.
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Caldwell rock BR with a read bag nice natural point of aim was shooting main 24x I think on the 50yd target. Parallax set to 50 and crystal clear on the head
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So basically what I did was 5rd at 50yd then moved to 100yd 10rd ( was told by some people that shooting too close may have been a problem) then back to 50yd then Rd then 5rd more same target lower sticky aannnd .
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[Fishoot]

Thanks for the detail! That pull weight is just a little light for me, but certainly target weight. I personally wouldn't go much lower than 3 pounds for a hunting gun.

[Iowa Fox]

Probably just keep it the way it is honestly

Don't do it. Keep it as a plain old Hornet. I have several Hornets and K Hornets and I much prefer the plain old Hornet.

[sukivel]

Don't do it. Keep it as a plain old Hornet. I have several Hornets and K Hornets and I much prefer the plain old Hornet.

Why is that?


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