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woodpile
01-29-2023, 11:01 PM
I just found a 358 winchester built on a belgin mauser action. I have dies and a large amount of 308 bras i Will resize. What have you guys used for white tails out to 200 yards?

BLAHUT
01-30-2023, 12:04 AM
I use what ever the gun likes and shoots accurately. There is where the fun is, finding out what the gun likes ????

Harter66
01-30-2023, 12:29 AM
Well I have a 1-14 24" AB barrel on a Santa Barbara 98 . 148 gr WC was amusing out to about 75 yd . The 358-158 RNFP was equally amusing up to about 12.5 gr of Unique past 250 yd .

More seriously however the Lee 358-200 was a near instant success until I started trying to make it stop penetrating via expansion alloys . Then things got weird . I tried a host of other bullets and settled on the 35-250 with 10% less than tamped and jiggled to the bottom of the neck in IMR 4350 in WW . Using the hunting alloy of WW and tamper seals at 75/25 and the same loads delivered 2100 fps and .900 dia groups of 5 . Haven't had the opportunity to shoot anything but paper yet , but I would imagine that a 2000 fps 250 inside 200 yd isn't going to be good for most critters . Not even the light armored white tail .

Fitz
01-30-2023, 07:18 AM
My 358 win. seem to shoot what ever I load for them , The semi - auto is limited to mag length so a 250 gr. is what she gets ,but the bolt gun get the 310 NOE thumper paper patched that load has filled the freezer with more hog and deer than I can remember and out to two hundred yards I have to do something stupid to miss .
Most of the mid range powders from 4198 to Varget have given good results.

Larry Gibson
01-30-2023, 10:01 AM
On white tail deer the RCBS 35-200-FN of the NOE or Lee clones at 2000 - 2300 fps will kill them all day long out to 200+ yards.

[Tongue in cheek] That is, of course, unless you hunt where PETA/APCA are issuing the deer body armor. Then you may want a bit heavier bullet.....

waksupi
01-30-2023, 01:45 PM
I've used one for years. My favorite load goes 2170 fps with a 290 gr. bullet, and my longest kill with it was 225 yards, which is point blank with that load.

cwlongshot
01-30-2023, 02:58 PM
On white tail deer the RCBS 35-200-FN of the NOE or Lee clones at 2000 - 2300 fps will kill them all day long out to 200+ yards.

[Tongue in cheek] That is, of course, unless you hunt where PETA/APCA are issuing the deer body armor. Then you may want a bit heavier bullet.....

Larrys endorsement should be well enough but Ill add mine to this. The RCBS 35/200 fn or any of its clones as long as it shoots well for you will do most everything one can ask from the 358 Winchester.
I am partial to the NOE offering as it has the largest meplat. (rCBS is smallest)
I also really like a MP 35/220 hp bullet. Its same profile as the RCBS just a lil heavier and with a small HP cast in COWW @ 1800 has been my GO TO for a cast bullet moved by re7 powder.

CW

softpoint
02-01-2023, 01:26 PM
Have a couple of .358 bolt guns. And several molds, including a Lyman 358009 280 grain, a Saeco 245 grain, and an RCBS 200. All three shoot very well through the Shilen barrels. I find that the RCBS is as good as anything for both target loads and white tail deer and an occasional hog.

warf73
02-04-2023, 09:10 PM
I have dies and a large amount of 308 bras i Will resize.

Make sure to anneal your brass before up sizing to 35 cal. I was getting way to many split mouths until I started annealing before up sizing. I also started annealing after trimming(brass sized to 358win), was getting split necks after firing at the tapper until I did it. I have 200 rounds loaded using 308win brass that have been fired once as 358win.
I've shot from 200gr to 250gr with sub 1.5" groups at 100. I can get smaller groups using copper condoms but made the gun for cast.

Good luck and congrats on your new purchase.