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26Charlie
01-24-2023, 07:44 PM
Saw the write up on the X frame in .350 Legend in American Rifleman. Interesting points:
7 shots, with clips
Will kill a deer
Will chamber .357 cartridges, but cautioned not to because .357 is bigger than .355 bullets (seriously doubt that would damage this big revolver)
Velocities in 1600 fps range for 180 gr bullets
Price in $1600 range

So, if you need a companion revolver for your 350 Legend AR in Upper Michigan, it’s here. Wonder what the market will be?

Fitz
01-24-2023, 07:59 PM
wonder if it will use the half moon clips

26Charlie
01-24-2023, 09:42 PM
Picture shows 7-shot full moon clips.

Cosmic_Charlie
01-24-2023, 09:58 PM
Zero interest. Would like to see Smith make a K frame 6" light barrel in .327 Federal. That would be more useful and fun.

rintinglen
01-24-2023, 10:14 PM
Excuse as I push my way back into the crowd to avoid the stampede. I suspect the 2 dozen guys who buy these will extoll the virtues to the mountain tops and those piddling pikers who cling to their 29's and 629's will be derided and shunned.

fastdadio
01-24-2023, 10:20 PM
Excuse as I push my way back into the crowd to avoid the stampede. I suspect the 2 dozen guys who buy these will extoll the virtues to the mountain tops and those piddling pikers who cling to their 29's and 629's will be derided and shunned.

^^^^ A funny slice of reality ^^^^

fastdadio
01-24-2023, 10:31 PM
So, if you need a companion revolver for your 350 Legend AR in Upper Michigan, it’s here. Wonder what the market will be?
Actually, we need the 350L in the bottom 1/3 of the lower P. Folks in the upper never heard of the 350L. As far as the market? I think it's a question that no one asked, however, I believe it will do well with the folks looking for reduced loads for their 500 S&W's.

reddog81
01-24-2023, 10:31 PM
Interesting gun. I wonder how long it'll be around. I just went and looked around on the web and don't see any for sale other than 2 on gunbroker. If I had an AR in 350L I'd probably get one however I already cast and reload for 300 BO & 450 BM so the cartridge just doesn't excite me.

Bigslug
01-25-2023, 12:37 AM
I can't easily wrap my brain around why someone would go for a crew-served handgun instead of an only slightly larger and massively more useful carbine.

The real question I have for the .350 Legend is if it will spur the development of a decent crop of .355" rifle bullets. Maybe it already has, but I am fortunate to live in California where we don't have to deal with that straightwall case nonsense, so I can't say I've been following it closely. I do think it's got more practicality potential as something like a repeating XP-100 than the other X-frame rounds do.

FergusonTO35
01-25-2023, 09:41 AM
but I am fortunate to live in California where we don't have to deal with that straightwall case nonsense, so I can't say I've been following it closely.

Shhh! Don't give them ideas! They might change the definition of AW to anything that uses a bottleneck round.

ioon44
01-25-2023, 09:43 AM
I have zero interest in the S&W .350.

FergusonTO35
01-25-2023, 09:48 AM
Now that the .360 is about to touch down, I have no interest in the .350 unless I found one of the rifles for an unrealistically low price. It would probably shoot ok with my cast 9mm slugs.

dverna
01-25-2023, 10:18 AM
Someone will want it.

freakonaleash
01-25-2023, 10:38 AM
It's stoopid.

SSGOldfart
01-25-2023, 10:47 AM
Now that the .360 is about to touch down, I have no interest in the .350 unless I found one of the rifles for an unrealistically low price. It would probably shoot ok with my cast 9mm slugs.

Yep it does okay with cast boolits can't say much about over 150 yards but at a 100 it's okay...

Grayone
01-25-2023, 10:51 AM
Bill Ruger would be laughing, what is the difference between this and the .357 Max???

Electrod47
01-25-2023, 11:45 AM
New front page nonsense for the gun rags. It will be touted as the best thing that.............Yawn

35isit
01-25-2023, 11:46 AM
Bill Ruger would be laughing, what is the difference between this and the .357 Max???
A repeating long gun that is wildly popular. Ammo that you can buy in fairly large quantities that is loaded to acceptable hunting levels. I owned the first Ruger that came to Central Ky. Wish I had it back. I still own a Dan Wesson. Now you can carry two guns in straight wall states.

reddog81
01-25-2023, 11:47 AM
Bill Ruger would be laughing, what is the difference between this and the .357 Max???

350L has a huge built in audience due to the fact it functions in an AR15. Almost every trip I make to the range I pick up 350L brass. The only rifle brass more prevalent is .223. I'd bet more 350 Legend ammo sells in a month than 357 Max sold in years. And that new 360 Whatever lever action cartridge will be dead in 2 years.

FergusonTO35
01-25-2023, 01:30 PM
A repeating long gun that is wildly popular. Ammo that you can buy in fairly large quantities that is loaded to acceptable hunting levels. I owned the first Ruger that came to Central Ky. Wish I had it back. I still own a Dan Wesson. Now you can carry two guns in straight wall states.

This right here. There are only four rifle cartridges that are pretty much always in stock around here: 6.5 Creedmoor, .308, 5.56/.223, and .350 Legend. I would imagine this is the case in alot of other places as well. Only the latter cartridge is legal for big game in straight wall states, of which there are quite a few.

Silvercreek Farmer
01-25-2023, 01:47 PM
I’d bet 90%+ of all X Frames sold, in any caliber, are novelties.

TCLouis
01-25-2023, 02:01 PM
I'm waiting for the 360 Hammr version.
Use real 35 caliber boolits that I already cast.

Jtarm
01-25-2023, 02:08 PM
Instead of “Hold my beer & watch this” guns, they had better come up with an answer to the King Cobra, K6S, and Taurus 856.

Carry guns are where it’s at with revolvers, and most people get that six is better than five.

reddog81
01-25-2023, 09:32 PM
I’d bet 90%+ of all X Frames sold, in any caliber, are novelties.

A very significant percent of all guns sold are fired only a few rounds and then stashed away. Most gun owners I know buy a gun shoot a few rounds through it and call it good.

I've got a little over 500 rounds through my 460 XVR. Not a large number by any means, but probably more than most.

FergusonTO35
01-25-2023, 10:20 PM
Ruger really whiffed by making the LCR a five shot and not 6. When people shop for snubbies at my side job shop, I always recommend the 856 first. I love J frames but honestly you get alot more for your money with the Taurus.

megasupermagnum
01-25-2023, 10:26 PM
Ruger really whiffed by making the LCR a five shot and not 6. When people shop for snubbies at my side job shop, I always recommend the 856 first. I love J frames but honestly you get alot more for your money with the Taurus.

They didn't whiff at all. That 856 is not even comparable to an LCR. You could say the 856 is better than the SP101, and I may agree. I think the SP101 should have got an overhaul 20 years ago. The LCR though? Buy one in 327 federal. 6 shots, lots of power, 17 oz gun that fits in a pocket. The only thing it would benefit from is some real sights. The LCR in 327 is the biggest advance in pocket revolvers in my lifetime.

megasupermagnum
01-25-2023, 10:31 PM
A very significant percent of all guns sold are fired only a few rounds and then stashed away. Most gun owners I know buy a gun shoot a few rounds through it and call it good.

I've got a little over 500 rounds through my 460 XVR. Not a large number by any means, but probably more than most.

I think by novelty people mean they buy them just because they are ridiculous. There absolutely are people who get one in 460 XVR, or 500 magnum and hunt big game with them. I would guess it's a lot less than 10%. There's nothing wrong with that. I own a single shot handgun in 458 win mag. I love that thing. I may even hunt with it for fun some day, but it is what it is. A novelty. Or if you want the shooting range to yourself, just fire a couple rounds with it. Anyone who stays after some full snort 458 through a 14" barrel and muzzle break wont bother you.

Harter66
01-26-2023, 12:41 AM
Seems like in a X frame they'd have gone for the 360 buckslayer thing among other things it's 357 and a rimmed case..... But im not the marketing genius ......

FergusonTO35
01-26-2023, 09:57 AM
They didn't whiff at all. That 856 is not even comparable to an LCR. You could say the 856 is better than the SP101, and I may agree. I think the SP101 should have got an overhaul 20 years ago. The LCR though? Buy one in 327 federal. 6 shots, lots of power, 17 oz gun that fits in a pocket. The only thing it would benefit from is some real sights. The LCR in 327 is the biggest advance in pocket revolvers in my lifetime.

I agree that the LCR is much more advanced than either the 856 or J-frame, but I still don't get why they didn't give the .38 version six shots. The size increase would be minimal and give it another advantage over other snubs. The SP-101 is heavy and overpriced, and most examples have a dreadful trigger pull. Unless you actually intend to shoot full tilt .357's all the time I wouldn't bother with it. Nobody carries .327 Federal around here, and other .32 caliber cartridges are very hit and miss and none are even close to reasonably priced. Not a big deal for the reloader, but for the person who doesn't they are going to have a hard time feeding it.

MT Gianni
01-26-2023, 11:21 AM
It's crazy isn't it, I have no interest, but would be all in on a Ruger reintroduction of the 357 Max. Essentially the same cartridge with a far different platform.

Texas by God
01-27-2023, 01:57 AM
My similar weight Winchester 94 in 38-55 holds seven shots. And I’d rather carry it around than any handgun bigger than a Ruger Blackhawk. Just me and my opinion.


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charlie b
01-28-2023, 09:01 PM
We don't have straight wall rules here. Shelves are full of .223 and .300BO. No .357mag and very little .44mag. Tons of 9mm and .40. There is more .30 carry than .45acp. Weird.

PS I don't remember seeing any 350L at all.

DougGuy
01-28-2023, 09:26 PM
I'm sure to get inquiries to hone cylinder throats so it will be cast friendly...

fastdadio
01-28-2023, 10:01 PM
I'm sure to get inquiries to hone cylinder throats so it will be cast friendly...

Then comes all the posts looking for data for light loads.....

BandeauRouge
01-30-2023, 01:12 PM
Then comes all the posts looking for data for light loads.....

then demand for a lever gun in it... or factory reduced recoil loads..

demands for "educational tips" on how to remove 38 special burn rings from the chambers..

a butt stock....