On paper @100yd with .22lr

[Wolfdog91]

Just some fun from the other day.

https://youtu.be/ApwIeQ_xT44


https://youtu.be/baephkd1PB0

[schutzen-jager]

.22 rf long range has been going on since before the 1940's - out to 200 yards with iron + scope with various rifles -

[Digital Dan]

Did some of that way back in time with a 10/22 I'd done some work on. Turned out ok I reckon, but I haven't shot anything more than 30 yards away with it.

https://i.imgur.com/HXQjMuq.jpg

[turtlezx]

have mine sighted in dead on at 300yds makes a little tink on steel

[CastingFool]

I used to shoot standing pop cans at 100yds with my bolt action 22. After a while, that got old, so I turned them on their side, with the round top towards the shooter. Wasn't that hard to hit. A 22lr when sighted in dead center at 25 yards, drops 4" at 100 yds.

[BLAHUT]

Had son shooting at 400 yds on steel, with his match gun, fire, count to three and ding. Swat was over a few points, doing there thing, some watching him and just shaking there heads.

[MrWolf]

I shot my 10/22 @ 300 yds. My holdover was around 11 feet. Was fun and I had a decent group.

[OS OK]

You are doing quite well with the ammo and the rifles your using. You sound really enthusiastic so I hope you'll push for increased accuracy by using all the little tricks & tips us BR shooters use. I think you'll find it very satisfying improving your rifle (bedding the action)/ammo (using higher quality but not necessarily 'expensive' ammo) & tweaking the front rest.

Killough Shooting Sports ( https://www.killoughshootingsports.com/?_kx=me5UNwSbAPjwmDe3MhJGJ7Q1eQSrwo6xO6qVC-jgo6M%3D.QRFJzq ) sent me an email today & they have some 'really decent' affordable ammo in stock now.

I use a Caldwell BR front rest & think it's well worth the money but the windage knob has so much slack in it, it frustrates me. I solved that problem with a couple ball bearings from Amazon...

https://i.imgur.com/fxND01x.jpg

Replace the black plastic washer with the thrust bearings, one set per side and the windage will operate like it should...turn one way ever so slightly and the windage moves, turn back the other way and there's no slack in the knob, the windage moves again and very smooth to operate.

https://i.imgur.com/FMvRV1O.jpg

These bearings are a bit wider than the black plastic bushing so you'll have to re-install the 'nylock 8mm nut' backwards with the nylock side facing the thread.
It's no biggie, it holds just fine...snug it up a little (not tight like it was) and feel the smoothness of the windage knob. Every little thing you do to make your gear work better translates into smaller groups.

https://i.imgur.com/WfkVTp1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cFqvy8E.jpg

I used some 400 grit wet/dry paper to smooth the mating (sliding) surfaces inside the rest also...makes for less drag on the adjustment knob.

https://i.imgur.com/rB3jhkR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CfK5abx.jpg

Another thing to do is to lock the Mariner's Wheel when you adjust elevation and that'll take a little wiggle out of the rest also.
Tazman, another member here explained to me that .005" wiggle in the muzzle of a 24" barrel translates into a 'miss distance' of 3/8'ths" at just 50 yards...
so, the more steady and rock solid your setup means tighter groups too.

I guess we have discussed just about everything there is to consider with .22lr and precision shooting on a couple threads I started some time back, back when I was the 'Neophyte' to the rimfire game...here they are...they're filled with some great information by some of the most knowledgeable shooters on CB's site...

"New to Using a Peep & Globe @ 50 Yards"
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?411925-New-to-using-a-PEEP-amp-GLOBE-at-50-yards

New to using a 'F-CLASS BR' at 50 yards...
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?420138-New-to-using-a-F-CLASS-BR-at-50-yards

Then later on I finally built me a 100 yard range and the fun really started!

New with a 'F-CLASS .22 BR' at 100 yards...
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?448204-New-with-a-F-CLASS-22-BR-at-100-yards

TUNING a .22lr BR at 100 yards...
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?451154-TUNING-a-22lr-BR-at-100-yards

I never thought much of the 'Lowly .22lr' & only used it for training my kids back in the 70's...never gave it much respect but after the cost & non-availability of primers & powder in the last 5 years, I started playing with the .22lr rimfire so I could shoot more. I wish now I had gone to the .22 decades ago!

Good luck, I hope you will continue videos of your progress...I subbed your channel.

charlie

[Wheelgun]

Very nice. Keep it up!

[BLAHUT]

Just some fun from the other day.

https://youtu.be/ApwIeQ_xT44


https://youtu.be/baephkd1PB0

The 521-T was one of my sons first target rifles, He won a number of competition's in, prone, standing, 3P and 4p with it, then moved on to better rifles.

[schutzen-jager]

two of my 521's are more accurate than any of my 513t matchmasters - got first 521 in 1956 for my 10th birthday + still have it -

[MrWolf]

Charlie (OS OK) that was a great write-up. I'm gonna get the bearings for mine. Thanks
Ron

[OS OK]

Charlie (OS OK) that was a great write-up. I'm gonna get the bearings for mine. Thanks
Ron

Your welcome.
That rest is a fine rest but they overlooked the quality of the setup concerning the cross-slide windage mechanism. (probably because of the 'Bean Counters' cutting assembly costs?)
Make sure you look closely at the mating surfaces of the cross-slide mechanism...chances are that your 'BR' is just like mine & they didn't sand all the extra metal from the casting's corners and mould splits from the finished rest.

https://i.imgur.com/rB3jhkR.jpg

Then on re-assembly I used a dry lube for these contact points so I won't have blowing sand or whatever collect there and gum-up the works.

Regards...charlie

[Wolfdog91]

You are doing quite well with the ammo and the rifles your using. You sound really enthusiastic so I hope you'll push for increased accuracy by using all the little tricks & tips us BR shooters use. I think you'll find it very satisfying improving your rifle (bedding the action)/ammo (using higher quality but not necessarily 'expensive' ammo) & tweaking the front rest.

Killough Shooting Sports ( https://www.killoughshootingsports.com/?_kx=me5UNwSbAPjwmDe3MhJGJ7Q1eQSrwo6xO6qVC-jgo6M%3D.QRFJzq ) sent me an email today & they have some 'really decent' affordable ammo in stock now.

I use a Caldwell BR front rest & think it's well worth the money but the windage knob has so much slack in it, it frustrates me. I solved that problem with a couple ball bearings from Amazon...

https://i.imgur.com/fxND01x.jpg

Replace the black plastic washer with the thrust bearings, one set per side and the windage will operate like it should...turn one way ever so slightly and the windage moves, turn back the other way and there's no slack in the knob, the windage moves again and very smooth to operate.

https://i.imgur.com/FMvRV1O.jpg

These bearings are a bit wider than the black plastic bushing so you'll have to re-install the 'nylock 8mm nut' backwards with the nylock side facing the thread.
It's no biggie, it holds just fine...snug it up a little (not tight like it was) and feel the smoothness of the windage knob. Every little thing you do to make your gear work better translates into smaller groups.

https://i.imgur.com/WfkVTp1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cFqvy8E.jpg

I used some 400 grit wet/dry paper to smooth the mating (sliding) surfaces inside the rest also...makes for less drag on the adjustment knob.

https://i.imgur.com/rB3jhkR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CfK5abx.jpg

Another thing to do is to lock the Mariner's Wheel when you adjust elevation and that'll take a little wiggle out of the rest also.
Tazman, another member here explained to me that .005" wiggle in the muzzle of a 24" barrel translates into a 'miss distance' of 3/8'ths" at just 50 yards...
so, the more steady and rock solid your setup means tighter groups too.

I guess we have discussed just about everything there is to consider with .22lr and precision shooting on a couple threads I started some time back, back when I was the 'Neophyte' to the rimfire game...here they are...they're filled with some great information by some of the most knowledgeable shooters on CB's site...

"New to Using a Peep & Globe @ 50 Yards"
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?411925-New-to-using-a-PEEP-amp-GLOBE-at-50-yards

New to using a 'F-CLASS BR' at 50 yards...
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?420138-New-to-using-a-F-CLASS-BR-at-50-yards

Then later on I finally built me a 100 yard range and the fun really started!

New with a 'F-CLASS .22 BR' at 100 yards...
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?448204-New-with-a-F-CLASS-22-BR-at-100-yards

TUNING a .22lr BR at 100 yards...
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?451154-TUNING-a-22lr-BR-at-100-yards

I never thought much of the 'Lowly .22lr' & only used it for training my kids back in the 70's...never gave it much respect but after the cost & non-availability of primers & powder in the last 5 years, I started playing with the .22lr rimfire so I could shoot more. I wish now I had gone to the .22 decades ago!

Good luck, I hope you will continue videos of your progress...I subbed your channel.

charlie

That k you for all the information! I've actually been filling your posts on and off for a little bit ! Man I wish we where neighbors!

[OS OK]

That k you for all the information! I've actually been filling your posts on and off for a little bit ! Man I wish we where neighbors!

Yup...it's a lot of fun shooting with a Buddy or two, I love the gamesmanship that develops & everyone contributes little 'tips & tricks' and most important, they share their 'perspective'...'the way they understand something or other'...like 'shooting in the wind & compensation'.
There's lots of wind diagrams on what to expect from a certain velocity and angle...

https://i.imgur.com/LWZb0m7.jpg

but each range responds differently to the wind because of trees & buildings nearby in the path of the wind & that's where it will get confusing.

Keep us posted as you dial your gear in.

[thebeav]

Nice video !
That looked like a lot of fun......

[jsizemore]

If you don't use a full out BR setup, then consistent contact with the rifle is VERY important. Practice is the solution. The increased barrel time of the bullet points up the inconsistencies.

[15meter]

We have a 22 LR rimfire egg shoot at two of the gun clubs I belong to.

Rules are simple:

Eggs at 100 yards, end pointing towards bench. Black background. 5 minutes for as many sighters as you can shoot. 10 rounds on bench, 10 minutes, 10 eggs.

Eggs are resting on drywall screws with rubber band to secure them.

It's not unusual to have a shoot off because or a couple of clean shooters. Either another 10 eggs or 3/4" paint balls. Paint balls are tough.

And the eggs Thawack! quite nicely.

309995


Only other important rule is competitors bring 1 dozen large eggs. Eggs are pooled so bringing jumbo eggs may very well help someone else.

Hopefully egg prices will be down by the time shooting season starts again.

And covering the backstop with visqueen is kind of important.

[MarkP]

We have a 22 LR rimfire egg shoot at two of the gun clubs I belong to.

Rules are simple:

Eggs at 100 yards, end pointing towards bench. Black background. 5 minutes for as many sighters as you can shoot. 10 rounds on bench, 10 minutes, 10 eggs.

Eggs are resting on drywall screws with rubber band to secure them.

It's not unusual to have a shoot off because or a couple of clean shooters. Either another 10 eggs or 3/4" paint balls. Paint balls are tough.

And the eggs Thawack! quite nicely.

309995


Only other important rule is competitors bring 1 dozen large eggs. Eggs are pooled so bringing jumbo eggs may very well help someone else.

Hopefully egg prices will be down by the time shooting season starts again.

And covering the backstop with visqueen is kind of important.
Eggs are getting crazy expensive.

[dverna]

We have a 22 LR rimfire egg shoot at two of the gun clubs I belong to.

Rules are simple:

Eggs at 100 yards, end pointing towards bench. Black background. 5 minutes for as many sighters as you can shoot. 10 rounds on bench, 10 minutes, 10 eggs.

Eggs are resting on drywall screws with rubber band to secure them.

It's not unusual to have a shoot off because or a couple of clean shooters. Either another 10 eggs or 3/4" paint balls. Paint balls are tough.

And the eggs Thawack! quite nicely.

309995


Only other important rule is competitors bring 1 dozen large eggs. Eggs are pooled so bringing jumbo eggs may very well help someone else.

Hopefully egg prices will be down by the time shooting season starts again.

And covering the backstop with visqueen is kind of important.

My first thought was...."What a mess!!!"

And at $$$/dozen not cheap anymore

Might want to try these:

https://www.amazon.com/Necco-Wafers-Original-Assorted-Candy/dp/B01N5S5G5S/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=necco%2Bwafers&qid=1675249862&sr=8-4&th=1

35 wafers per roll so comes out to $.05/target. No clean up. The ants, flies, and yellow jackets should get that done.

[15meter]

Egg shells disappear into the dirt in a couple of days. Egg guts mostly sprayed on the visqueen gets rolled up and put in the trash.

And the fun of seeing someone with 9 well splatted eggs from a hundred yards and his reaction when you get down to the backstop and find he creased the egg and it's a leaker. Leakers are egg shooter's version of line cutters.

Or you gets down there and sees a skid mark on the side of the egg but no leak. Yes, you can skid mark an egg with a 22. Been there done that, didn't get the t-shirt.

And you don't get that lovely THAWACK! with anything other than eggs.

[John Guedry]

My thought is "if you shoot eggs, you got too much money".

[jmorris]

have mine sighted in dead on at 300yds makes a little tink on steel

The ammo I use has 156” of drop at 300 and I have to use a base I made that has elevation built into it to be zeroed at that range.

What’s your setup?

[jmorris]

My thought is "if you shoot eggs, you got too much money".

Or too many hens.

[Hannibal]

I liked to use Necco wafers. Only use I ever found for them. Sure couldn't stand to eat one.

[super6]

I gotta dig out my old REM and try again. Thanks for the post! It did hit a barn side last time I shot it LOL...

[OS OK]

I got started around last June shooting the .22lr BR at 100 yards...I like using the 3/4" stick-on spots & they are available in all colors...these dots are availlable in all sizes up to 3", I think? You can use whatever size at whatever yardage that fits your bill. Start larger and work down in size if you like...I use 8.5" x 11" cardstock paper for clean holes that can be measured fairly accurately. Targets made this way are pretty cheap.

https://i.imgur.com/5PavIvn.jpg

The objective (that I've NOT achieved yet) is to get my rifle, the ammo & equipment tuned so I can eventually average 1/2" groups @100 yards...BUT...unless I am hitting what I am aiming at, I consider the group a fail.

https://i.imgur.com/AjVVmAn.jpg

I shoot at home alone and for me, the fun in shooting is to try to learn to shoot & judge the wind with precision...just banging at steel or plinking off beer cans doesn't hold my interest. Well, I suppose it could but I'd need a much longer range than I have & would still need precision but I am maxed out at 100 yards.

[15meter]

My thought is "if you shoot eggs, you got too much money".

This was done when eggs were a buck a dozen, I spent more on the first beer after the shoot than I spent on eggs. And having gathered 600+ eggs 365 days a year for years, $5 eggs is cheap.

You ever do the annual clean out a 400 hen chicken coop with a pitch fork?

In August? Why in August? Spread the manure on wheat stubble, then plow down the wheat stubble. August, minimal rain, minimal runoff.

$10 doesn't look that expensive from my point of view.

I'll raise chickens when the pigs start wearing aviator glasses.

And eggs still THAWACK! like nothing else.

[Shanghai Jack]

seems to me that we used to practice at 300 with the 22 to prepare for 1000yds.

[6mm win lee]

"You ever do the annual clean out a 400 hen chicken coop with a pitch fork? "

Done that. Choked on the ammonia for two days.

I like you guys' idea of the Necco wafers. I would only be shooting on the anise and chocolate wafers. I don't like eating those. BLEECH.

[15meter]

"You ever do the annual clean out a 400 hen chicken coop with a pitch fork? "

Done that. Choked on the ammonia for two days.

I like you guys' idea of the Necco wafers. I would only be shooting on the anise and chocolate wafers. I don't like eating those. BLEECH.

50 years later I'm positive my having almost zero sense of smell is a direct result of cleaning out those chicken coops.

[sparky45]

The worst of the lot is the Chocolate ones. Anise is my favorite.

[gloob]

My thought is "if you shoot eggs, you got too much money".

Even at 100 yards with a 22LR? If I tried that, i'd have to spend more money on the ammo than the eggs.

[303Guy]

I tried 100m with my 22 once. What can I say? [smilie=b:

Now If I could just get close to Os, I would be quite happy! Just a little bit closer would be nice. :mrgreen: That's some mighty fine shooting there, Os! :drinks:

I might just take rifle to 100m range tomorrow but not the Remington. I'm shooting the Voere at the moment. It's my field gun and sometimes I take longer shots with it and find getting the elevation right to be challenging.

So, eggs for targets? Mmm ... I'd probably get shot for suggesting it! We've had this new law from around 2013 I think it was requiring a change in battery farming. Apparently, most egg farmers decided that it was too hard and expensive to comply so decided to carry on until the deadline then just quite. So now we have an egg shortage. But beer cans filled with water make a nice splash too and are more do-able for us mere mortals off the shoulder. And more available. [smilie=1:

[popper]

Yup, if I took an egg for a target I'd get shot. Necco wafers -- for some reason I remember them as a suggested space travel food in the 50s. Before there was a NASA, they were trying to figure out what astronauts would take to eat that didn't weight much or take up a lot of room. IIRC, they used the alka-selzer pill press. Tasted about the same.

[BLAHUT]

Eggs are getting crazy expensive.

When my sons were learning, I used charcoal buckets at 100 yds, mice puff of smoke, natural, no clean up, cheap... They shot mostly with iron sights. If you can hold in a 1-inch circle at 100 yds, with a sling and iron sights, you will be compitive in any .22LR match, prone, sitting, standing, 3P, 4P...

[303Guy]

I went to the range today and due to some mix up, I ended up on the 100m range (110yds). I thought I would at least test a 303 or two but couldn't see the 25m target with open sights so I took out the little Voere. I discovered why I was missing the long shots in the field. So I tried different ammo. Well, I managed to get some reasonable groups with Eley Team and CCI HN subs. I also learned what the drop was and it's more than I thought. Like 10 inches drop! It's zeroed at 25m which is too low.

Anyway, for the pictures;
https://i.postimg.cc/vHQgZVRP/Voere-100m-Eley-Team.jpg (https://postimages.org/) https://i.postimg.cc/j27gFFcj/2023-02-26-Carbine-2.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

That's Eley Team on the left and CCI SUB HN on the right.

[Silvercreek Farmer]

I got started around last June shooting the .22lr BR at 100 yards...I like using the 3/4" stick-on spots & they are available in all colors...these dots are availlable in all sizes up to 3", I think? You can use whatever size at whatever yardage that fits your bill. Start larger and work down in size if you like...I use 8.5" x 11" cardstock paper for clean holes that can be measured fairly accurately. Targets made this way are pretty cheap.

https://i.imgur.com/5PavIvn.jpg

The objective (that I've NOT achieved yet) is to get my rifle, the ammo & equipment tuned so I can eventually average 1/2" groups @100 yards...BUT...unless I am hitting what I am aiming at, I consider the group a fail.

https://i.imgur.com/AjVVmAn.jpg

I shoot at home alone and for me, the fun in shooting is to try to learn to shoot & judge the wind with precision...just banging at steel or plinking off beer cans doesn't hold my interest. Well, I suppose it could but I'd need a much longer range than I have & would still need precision but I am maxed out at 100 yards.


Nice targets. I was just thinking that I was running low on Birchwood Casey dots, might try those instead. We use butcher paper for a backing, but as you know, we don’t get clean holes most of the time.

[15meter]

Nice targets. I was just thinking that I was running low on Birchwood Casey dots, might try those instead. We use butcher paper for a backing, but as you know, we don’t get clean holes most of the time.

Try mounting your targets on cardboard. Smooth clean backer usually produces nice clean holes.

I pick up amazon boxes on trash day, grab the larger boxes.

Or during election season, the illegally placed election signs at every intersection. Those corrugated plastic signs make great backers.

And you're cleaning up the neighborhood at the same time.

[GregLaROCHE]

That’s a beautiful old gun you have there Wolfdog. Make sure you take good care of it. With continued shooting, you will get even better.

[M-Tecs]

Breaking an egg at 300 yards from standing position with a .22lr

https://americangg.net/breaking-egg-300-yards/?fbclid=IwAR2mK-GQfGBaqRlyjXY33egDSaxD5t5N0MGpsw05q6qihr1D0CikTdor M-g

[303Guy]

I watched that girl doing her thing quite a while ago and still sometimes think about it. First off, the rifle has to be very accurate. And then, her shooting is just amazing!

The best I've ever managed to do using a bench was when four shots went sub-MOA at 110 yds. (The first shot went way off). I thought that was amazing. Not my shooting but the fact that the rifle could do it! And she's shooting off the shoulder!

[georgerkahn]

Thanks, M-Tecs, for posting this incredible video! No mention did I see of the brand/mods of her rifle, the 'scope, or even the brand/type of .22 ammo she employed. It surely might inspire some to scramble to the range -- a yolking matter. I do not recall the range, but I recall E. Arthur Brown (eabco) having baby aspirin shoots,years back, where a baby aspirin was shot off the end of a length of vermicelli (super thin spaghetti) to which it was super-glued on. They used their custom-made rifles with their made barrels -- equally impressive as is this young lady with her .22.