30-30 load data please

[sloughfoot]

I had saved in my photos old load data for 30-30 but lost these photos. Can anyone share data or where I can find data for 130 grain cast? The one load I have written down that works is 18 grains of IMR 4227 and produces dead deer with a 2.5 inch group at 100 yards

[quilbilly]

You didn't mentions which 130 gr projectile you are using. Is it the Lyman plain base 130, the MP gas checked 130, or jacketed? My rifle liked the Lyman 130 but because of the plain base, I kept the MV below 1350 fps. There was no leading and it was plenty accurate to cause the demise of coyotes out to 125 yards. That MP 130 semi Point is a wonderful boolit. The gas check allows it to be driven to well over 1700 fps with enough meplat to expand well and be safe in the tube. I use Red Dot or Bullseye for the plain base loads but RE-7 or 5744 for gas check loads. BTW - I am a firm believer in the old adage - "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" - so that 4227 sounds like a fine load.

[Castaway]

Try the Lyman 44th manual:

http://marvinstuart.com/firearm/Manuals/Reloading/Reloading%20Manuals/Lyman%20Reloading%20Handbook%20---%2044th%20Edition%20---%201967.pdf

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

Well, you are not mentioning your experience in casting/reloading. Judging just by your question, I will assume your experience level is almost none.
FIRST, acquire a Lyman Castbullet handbook 4th Ed.
There will be plenty of 30-30 loads listed, but do yourself a favor and read the first half of the manual, that will give you the basics of reloading cast...as it is somewhat different than loading jacketed bullets.
Good Luck.

[sloughfoot]

Well, you are not mentioning your experience in casting/reloading. Judging just by your question, I will assume your experience level is almost none.
FIRST, acquire a Lyman Castbullet handbook 4th Ed.
There will be plenty of 30-30 loads listed, but do yourself a favor and read the first half of the manual, that will give you the basics of reloading cast...as it is somewhat different than loading jacketed bullets.
Good Luck.

We’ll it’s these remarks I hate to reply to. Cause it makes you look ignorant. Sorry I didn’t mention the available manuals I have. I have Just the one cast manual Lyman 4th edition. And no there’s no data for 30-30 below 150 grain. Hence the reason I had collected a file of pictures from others older manuals that had more data for the 30-30. As I mentioned file got accidentally deleted. As for my experience in cast, 2.5 years in rifle cartridges. So I guess you could call me a noob. Only to hv cast loads that is. I’ve been casting pistol loads for 25 years. And 25 years total experience loading. In the last 2.5 years I’ve logged a few thousand hours at the reloading bench loading and researching and READING and behind a rifle testing loads. All this time dedicated to building the best cast loads I could make. It’s paid off big for me. I hope you have more experience to share to the next guy that asks a question.

[sloughfoot]

Thanks I greatly appreciate the link

[sloughfoot]

Sorry yes sir I’m loading the M&P 130 hp powder coated and gas checked. Thanks for you advice

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

The RCBS castbullet manual #1 has 30-30 data for cast boolits down to 115gr.
BUT, You'll be fine with starting charges from the Lyman manual's 150gr data for your 130gr HP.
Be sure to work up your load.
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Anyone that asks strangers on the internet for reloading Data for common caliber/boolit combinations is a noob (your word) in my book.

[rintinglen]

Take a look at the 3rd edition Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook. p. 178-180. In Particular. look at the data for the 311-465.

If you reduce the top-end loads by about 2.5 grains, you'll be safe and will likely find that somewhere around 30 grains of either RX 7, or H4895 will give you an accurate load. I have used the 32 grain load of 748 with an NOE copy of the 311-465 125 grainer (That's what mine weigh with gas check) as well as the Lyman 311-410 130 grainer. The plain base 130 grain bullet gave me some leading until I backed the load down to 28 grains.

Another load that I recommend for the 30-30 is 17.5 grains of 2400 for any GC bullet between 120 and 180 grains. Especially with a 311-466 140 grain boolit, this works as well as anything for accuracy.

[triggerhappy243]

i had saved in my photos old load data for 30-30 but lost these photos. Can anyone share data or where i can find data for 130 grain cast? The one load i have written down that works is 18 grains of imr 4227 and produces dead deer with a 2.5 inch group at 100 yards

copied from the lyman cast bullet handbook that i inherited from a good friend.

[farmbif]

when I have played around with bullet weights that I dont have data for I look at what data I do have and make a calculated guess at where to start. your example with the 30-30 . I use a lot of imr4198 or its equivalent which is Swiss precision powder which uses the same data. so ill use that powder for my example
Lyman book says 18-24 grains for 170 grain bullet and RCBS book says 20-22 grains for a 148 grain bullet so there is 2 grains difference for powder load for 20 grain difference in bullet weight so following this I would start at 22 grains of imr4198 for a 130 grain bullet and work my load up to maybe 25 grains to see how accuracy is effected if there are no signs of excess pressure by working up by .3 or .4 grains of powder at a time.
thats just what I do for myself and I'm not an expert.

[sloughfoot]

Wow THANKS FRIEND

[sloughfoot]

I’ve done a little of that but still messes with my brain to make up deviations from the manuals after 24 years of loading jacketed cartridges and never Deviating from the manual

[quilbilly]

I like that MP 130 gr mold a lot. Just this afternoon, I was using that boolit in my 10" Contender 30/30 with three different powders all at about 8 gr - Red Dot, Unique, and Bullseye. All shot well and quite pleasantly at a makeshift 60 yard target. Confirmation will have to be done at paper, however. I am not PC'ing. Surprisingly, the Lee 113 gr RFGC shot even better with that 8 gr load of Bullseye. FYI - These light loads in the Contender are quite specialized for my circumstance and would not be my first choice for deer. These loads are "walking around" loads for targets of opportunity, mostly coyotes, during my morning exercise walks in the forest. They reduce muzzle blast quite a bit and the occasionally blinding ball of flame from slower burning powders when used in short barrels.

[sloughfoot]

I like that MP 130 gr mold a lot. Just this afternoon, I was using that boolit in my 10" Contender 30/30 with three different powders all at about 8 gr - Red Dot, Unique, and Bullseye. All shot well and quite pleasantly at a makeshift 60 yard target. Confirmation will have to be done at paper, however. I am not PC'ing. Surprisingly, the Lee 113 gr RFGC shot even better with that 8 gr load of Bullseye. FYI - These light loads in the Contender are quite specialized for my circumstance and would not be my first choice for deer. These loads are "walking around" loads for targets of opportunity, mostly coyotes, during my morning exercise walks in the forest. They reduce muzzle blast quite a bit and the occasionally blinding ball of flame from slower burning powders when used in short barrels.[/QUOTE]

Here’s a few groups with the Lee 113 RFGC you mentioned using green dot.50 yards and 22 rifle recoil

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