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reloader4410
12-04-2022, 08:08 PM
CLOSED --- Found What I Needed

Is spence wolf & js & pat wolf the same? looking for loading cartridges for the original springfield rifle and carbine nothing i see says spence wolf? also what would be latest addition? & anyone got one that they are not using? & could sell at a discount? cant bring myself to spend $30 thanks & happy trails

Well, Dummy me. My wife figured this out. JS & Pat Wolf are husband and wife. JS Wolf was known to his close friends as "Spence". Pat is his wife. The book I am looking for is the 3rd edition of "Loading Cartridges for the Original .45-70 Springfield Rifle and Carbine". As I stated, can't bring myself to spend $30.00. Looking for a lower price.

ndnchf
12-04-2022, 09:34 PM
Its a great book, full of details on how to load accurate cartridges for the trapdoor. Its a small price to pay for all his research guidance.

Kenny Wasserburger
12-05-2022, 01:28 AM
Is spence wolf & js & pat wolf the same? looking for loading cartridges for the original springfield rifle and carbine nothing i see says spence wolf? also what would be latest addition? & anyone got one that they are not using? & could sell at a discount? cant bring myself to spend $30 thanks & happy trails

Well, Dummy me. My wife figured this out. JS & Pat Wolf are husband and wife. JS Wolf was known to his close friends as "Spence". Pat is his wife. The book I am looking for is the 3rd edition of "Loading Cartridges for the Original .45-70 Springfield Rifle and Carbine". As I stated, can't bring myself to spend $30.00. Looking for a lower price.

Spence has been long dead, and miss Pat remarried. You got the right author.

Knowledge isn’t cheap, he spent a lot of time money powder and lead to gather that data for making a trapdoor speak. Granted it isn’t target rifle accuracy, but replicated the original military load and accuracy standards.

Nothing is free in this old world, $30 is a drop in the bucket compared to rifles powder and primers.

KW

Kenny Wasserburger
12-05-2022, 01:32 AM
Its a great book, full of details on how to load accurate cartridges for the trapdoor. Its a small price to pay for all his research guidance.
Agreed 100%

Kenny W.

45workhorse
12-05-2022, 01:36 AM
Worth the price!

toot
12-05-2022, 07:49 AM
spring for it! as you see no one is jumping at your offer yet. depends how bad you want it? jmho.

reloader4410
12-05-2022, 09:50 AM
fixed income, forces such things.

toot
12-06-2022, 08:24 AM
I too am on SSI. but if I want something in reason, I will spring for it, rather than loose it. not saying you have to go crazy. jmho.

StrawHat
12-06-2022, 10:06 AM
Have you checked with your local library? I would bet there is a copy in your library’s system and they can get it for you.

But, if you can afford to shoot, that book is a very inexpensive volume of knowledge.

Some of the knowledge is dated and some is no longer considered overdone but it is still a compilation of a very great amount of research.

Kevin

fgd135
12-07-2022, 05:30 AM
fixed income, forces such things.

Digital copy is cheaper:
https://the4570book.com/shop/ols/products/digital-copy-loading-cartridges-for-the-original-45-70-springfield-rifle-carbine

SteveOKo922
12-09-2022, 11:28 PM
Email me for a copy 11chassepot@gmail.com

trebor44
12-10-2022, 10:11 AM
While there are several books about the trapdoor, the 'Matthews' book is a good read. Loads for the trapdoor can also be found in some reloading manuals. Book sellers and thrift stores can be a source of "older" or out of print books! Do a google on 45-70 etc.

reloader4410
12-11-2022, 04:20 PM
thanks steve ok0922

SpiderX
03-13-2023, 12:07 PM
While there are several books about the trapdoor, the 'Matthews' book is a good read. Loads for the trapdoor can also be found in some reloading manuals. Book sellers and thrift stores can be a source of "older" or out of print books! Do a google on 45-70 etc.

Great tips for consignment shops. also wanted to write. Sometimes it happens that you need to find a rare old book, you can’t find it on the trading floors. There were even cases when copies of books disappeared from the city library. The only thing that helped me was searching for consignment stores on the Internet. By the way, I recently wrote my essay about shopping centers in which I gave additional hints (https://samplius.com/free-essay-examples/shopping-mall/) on how to find interesting books and rare things in a society where they mainly sell mass products without thinking about their quality and value. Maybe that's why I like living in the suburbs more, where there are many different small shops and there is an opportunity to buy rare things.