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Battis
11-27-2022, 12:00 PM
I'm still looking for a dog. The black shepherd that I visited four or five times is not a good fit.
Now, I had four real bad experiences with pit bulls with my last dog - they attacked him (he was 95 lbs) for no friggin' reason. I don't trust pure pit bulls. I know many dog owners love them, and that's fine. Any dog can turn bad.
What about a dog that has some pit bull? I'm looking at a Black Lab that has that pit bull face, but the rest is black lab. I never had problems with a dog with some pit bull.
Any ideas? He's a great dog.

farmbif
11-27-2022, 12:12 PM
I'll never again take in a grown dog. next dog will be a puppy. Rufus is a good dog. I found him out in the woods, skin and bone he hadn't eaten in quite a while. I spent countless hours trying to teach an old dog some new tricks. he will go for walks with me, he scouts up on ahead, and he dont even flinch when I'm shooting and he comes when I call him. but that's it. cant even get him to fetch and still cant get him to stop jumping up on me or anyone I let near him. and just cant get him to stop chewing things up no matter how many bones or treats or whatever I give him. he chewed half his dog house apart. yeah, next dog will be a just finished weaning puppy that can be trained properly.

toallmy
11-27-2022, 12:19 PM
I know others options are different then mine on the subject , but I don't deal with pit dogs at all !

Ickisrulz
11-27-2022, 12:26 PM
Pit bulls are great dogs. I don't know what some people do to them, but we've had three pure bred and a mix (bulldog) and they have been the best dogs ever. All our dogs have been family pets that live inside the house with us, are properly socialized, are great with kids and love people. We acquired them as puppies.

super6
11-27-2022, 12:30 PM
[QUOTE=Battis;5492843]I'm still looking for a dog. The black shepherd that I visited four or five times is not a good fit.
Now, I had four real bad experiences with pit bulls with my last dog - they attacked him (he was 95 lbs) for no friggin' reason. I don't trust pure pit bulls. I know many dog owners love them, and that's fine. Any dog can turn bad.
What about a dog that has some pit bull? I'm looking at a Black Lab that has that pit bull face, but the rest is black lab. I never had problems with a dog with some pit bull.

I had a dog (black lab..pit) great dog! unless you had black shiny shoes, Mail man, meter reader....She was a biter. Good with family.

Battis
11-27-2022, 02:48 PM
This dog is 11 months old and very submissive, friendly, listens well (damn, sounds like a perfect wife). He's black lab all the way except for those possibly pit bull eyes. I had a yellow lab once that had what we thought was a pit bull face but come to find out she was a pure English lab. They have that broad, short snout but she was all Lab.
The shelter had a yellow lab/shepherd mix last week, about 75 lbs. Perfect dog, very friendly, smart, but we couldn't take her that day, and she was adopted the first thing the next day.

Winger Ed.
11-27-2022, 03:03 PM
but we couldn't take her that day, and she was adopted the first thing the next day.

If you see a good deal-- grab it or it might be gone when you come back.


Years ago, late in the afternoon, I was at a Sears surplus store and saw a 110V air compressor I wanted.
I was there with the money the next day when they opened and grabbed it. As I was in line-- maybe 2 minutes later,
a couple guys walked past, looked at where it had been and one said, "Dang..... it's gone".

One night, Mrs. Winger found a puppy on line at a rather distant SPCA shelter, and just didn't think she could live without it.
We got there before it opened, and when it did, she went in got it.
As we were filling out the paperwork, a lady came in with her kid-- and had to explain that 'her' puppy was already adopted.

hoodat
11-27-2022, 03:12 PM
My advice, whatever the breed: socialize them with humans AND other dogs from the very start when they are very young and throughout their early life. If you don't, the odds of having problems are much higher no matter what the breed is. jd

recumbent
11-27-2022, 04:52 PM
Best dog I ever had was a rescue dog, boxer pit bull mix, more boxer than pit. I got her when she was 1.5 years old, Rosie was a sweet heart.

Battis
11-27-2022, 05:05 PM
No way we could have taken that yellow lab the day we met her. That would have meant bringing the dog to a Thanksgiving family gathering or leaving her completely alone at home immediately. Just wasn't meant to be.
I never had a problem with pit bulls, until I did. Four bad experiences.
Hearing some of the abusive stories of the dogs in the shelter, and what people did to them before they got to the shelter, makes me proud to be a human.

redriverhunter
11-27-2022, 06:19 PM
we have always had dogs, what we would do is once we wanted another dog, we would get a puppy and it would grow with the older dog no problem. we had a pit that was about 3 years old (never a problem with people or animals), and we ended up with 2 more pits, as puppys. Once one of the puppy got to about a year old the fight was on. The older pit went to my daughter. We kept the younger two. I dont want to admit it but the one of the pits we kept hates all other animals. He is kept in a fenced yard and has a shock collar because given the chance he will run out the garage door and find a fight. His good side is he wants nothing more than to snuggle up to you. None of these pits are pure bread they all a back yard breeders version of. The two puppies I got were from a guy who told me he was working on breeding hog dogs and these pups did not have the traits he was looking for. I often wonder how much is in genetics and how much trained.

daengmei
11-27-2022, 06:57 PM
I got a pit/lab mix from a rescue, about 6 months old, spayed. She is so loving, but likes to play rough. At a little over 1 yo I got a male beagle pup, she at first hated him, but several weeks and she loved him and they constantly play together, he wants it, she doesn't, lol. They continually now at 4 ys amaze me with their loving behavior. Yes, I keep them indoors. My previous other two got out chasing ground hogs and died together on a near highway. That was tough.

michael.birdsley
11-27-2022, 07:06 PM
Lab pits are about the greatest dogs ever. Including the one we have, I’ve known of 2 others that friends have had. We have a 9 year old female named Lucy. Seems like all lab pits look the same ( usually black and white) and all of the same good temperament. You get the best genes from the pit bull and lab. Only downside is sometimes in her younger days she would play a little rough but, taught the lab gunner how to fight/play like a pit. Gunner thought she was mom when first got him at 9 weeks 8 yrs ago

I’ve never had an issue with strange dogs. She will bark when strangers or strange cars pull in. However, once she sees that they are not an issue she basically forgets about them. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221127/35ce95043c4bb525d6e504120c7b8524.jpg
Lucy on the left

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She also lives with a black lab named gunner, a 8 month old orange cat and my 5 year old daughter


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Battis
11-27-2022, 09:28 PM
The dog I'm thinking about looks alot like Lucy in the last pic you posted: the shape of his face, the ears, etc. But, what about those eyes? Pit Bull eyes?

daengmei
11-27-2022, 10:28 PM
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samari46
11-28-2022, 01:15 AM
We took in a pit bull terrier/lab mix and never had problems. Sadly Bob had to be put to sleep. Cancer and he started loosing control of his back legs. Went without a dog for over 3 years. Now have a pit bull/lab mix puppy. If you treat them right and show them love and affection I don't see any problems. it's the people who beat these dogs to make them mean and that causes problems. Frank

michael.birdsley
11-28-2022, 03:45 AM
The dog I'm thinking about looks alot like Lucy in the last pic you posted: the shape of his face, the ears, etc. But, what about those eyes? Pit Bull eyes?

Yeah those look like the same eyes Lucy has

Oh I forgot to mention the short pit hair is a nice benefit. Gunner the lab sheds like crazy and the black hair really shows up on everything


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GhostHawk
11-28-2022, 10:50 AM
Hard to go wrong with a Lab IMO. They are in many respects the total opposite of a Pit Bull.

Friendly, good with kids/family, dedicated and totally sane all the time with a need to please.

Battis
11-28-2022, 01:03 PM
Hard to go wrong with a Lab IMO.
I couldn't agree more. But, what about a Lab with some pit bull?
I'm going back to see the dog that I mentioned - mostly Lab, maybe some pit bull. I am definitely leaning towards taking him home, based on his personality, energy, size, temperament, age (11 months), and the posts here about Lab/pit bull mixes presenting no problems. And as far as pit bulls go - I'm guessing that 98 percent of them are perfectly fne, but I did have a run-in with four bad ones, and that's stuck in my brain.

jim 44-40
11-28-2022, 01:15 PM
He looks like a rascal, I would have picked that dog

Ickisrulz
11-28-2022, 01:30 PM
Hard to go wrong with a Lab IMO. They are in many respects the total opposite of a Pit Bull.

Friendly, good with kids/family, dedicated and totally sane all the time with a need to please.

What?

"Friendly, good with kids/family, dedicated and totally sane all the time with a need to please" perfectly describes every pit bull our family has had. And, pit bulls are not hyper.

414gates
11-28-2022, 03:00 PM
A pit bull is a house dog. They need to be raised from pups as one of the family. They can be raised with children, cats and other dogs. They need to be introduced to other dogs from a young age, and while they are growing up.

Because they form very stong social bonds, they become psychotic when left alone. Keeping a pit bull locked up in the back yard on it's own, is a recipe for disaster.

Always get a puppy, and always inspect the breeding pair first hand for temperment. The mother must not be aggressive when you try to handle her pups. The father must be friendly to you as a stranger.

Avoid pit bull crosses. A cross tends to bring out the worst characteristics.

Staffies have exactly the same temperment and characteristics, just a smaller package.

Mine lived 16 years before he had to be put down.

super6
11-28-2022, 03:36 PM
My daughter had a pit, Razor was the perfect gentleman, I think he was called a King pit. 120 LBS. He was tied to a tree when she took him in.

Battis
11-28-2022, 05:33 PM
I'm not dumping on pit bulls - if you own one and find them to be great dogs, well that's cool. I do not want to be in the same room with a full bred pit bull. As I've said a few times, my last dog, 95 lbs, was attacked by four different pit bulls over a year and a half. For no reason. He was leashed. The worse time, that friggin' pit bull also bit me. The owner, a young girl, tried to restrain her dog and got a busted finger. The pit bull lost an eye. If my dog had not been big and tough, he'd be dead. Then the owner left without swapping info. It cost me, between the vet and my hospital bill, over $700. I had a S&W in my coat and if not for the young girl, I would have shot that friggin' thing. To this day, I wished I had. The other three times, my dog actually beat the crap out of the dogs.
Yeah, still makes me mad. But, now, I'm ready to get a dog that might have some pit bull in it, like the lab in the pic I posted. He seems sweet and nice and trainable.

Ickisrulz
11-28-2022, 05:47 PM
Speaking of bad dogs, the worst I have ever seen are lap dogs owned by old people that allow the dog to be boss. A vet once told me that the little dogs are what he needed to watch out for.

414gates
11-29-2022, 06:29 AM
.. my last dog, 95 lbs, was attacked by four different pit bulls over a year and a half. For no reason. He was leashed. .

If your dog is leashed, and an unleashed dog comes over to your leashed dog to start a fight, shoot it.

pmer
11-29-2022, 08:54 AM
My advice, whatever the breed: socialize them with humans AND other dogs from the very start when they are very young and throughout their early life. If you don't, the odds of having problems are much higher no matter what the breed is. jd

This is true if you a have a puppy you need to make plans to socialize them with people and other types of pets. Isolating a puppy at a certain age is part of the training for a fighting dog. I think I learned that when that pro football player was caught with dog troubles.

justindad
11-30-2022, 11:58 PM
Spay/neuter will reduce aggression.
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I helped raise a pure pit & a pit/boxer mix. The pit/boxer was well behaved. Anything with pit in it is going to require a lot of exercise.
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Just don’t mix pot with anything that get nervous, or is known for nipping. A nervous dog will bite. A cranky dog in heat will bite. A dog that is high on physical affection is less likely to bite. A dog low on exercise might get over-excited and bite.
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I love pit bulls, but I would not be opposed to requiring a person to be trained and licensed for ownership.

barnetmill
12-01-2022, 07:38 PM
American bully in the smaller sizes is a cross of american pitbull terrier and english bulldog and make good house dogs.
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Other lower energy bully dogs are the leavitt-old english bulldogge
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barnetmill
12-01-2022, 08:19 PM
Hard to go wrong with a Lab IMO. They are in many respects the total opposite of a Pit Bull.

Friendly, good with kids/family, dedicated and totally sane all the time with a need to please.
Sometimes a pit was chosen as a dog companion for a child.
Petey of the little rascals

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Battis
12-01-2022, 08:30 PM
If...now, think about it...if your dog had been attacked four (4) times in a year and a half, by a particular breed, let's call it, I don't know...pit bull, for absolutely no known reason, and one of those attacks included me getting bit and costing me $700, might you form a negative opinion about that particular breed?
Yeah, Petey was a sweet doggy, but he did not attack my dog.

barnetmill
12-01-2022, 09:14 PM
If...now, think about it...if your dog had been attacked four (4) times in a year and a half, by a particular breed, let's call it, I don't know...pit bull, for absolutely no known reason, and one of those attacks included me getting bit and costing me $700, might you form a negative opinion about that particular breed?
Yeah, Petey was a sweet doggy, but he did not attack my dog.

A neighbor shot a pit bull that attacked his dog. Actually owners sicced on it on his older disable rotty-GSD. The sheriff deputy was ok with the shooting. The punks that owned the dead pit were evicted from that house. The whole neighborhood wanted them gone.

Battis
12-02-2022, 12:10 AM
Truthfully, I always gave pit bulls the benefit of the doubt. It was how they were raised, treated, etc. I liked the way they look, I liked their temperament. But, like other full blooded breeds, breeding has gone haywire in some of them. When I was young, there were plenty of St Bernards around. Then, from what I heard, they were bred too closely and became violent. I'm starting to see more of them but they disappeared for a long time, around here anyways. My neighbor's friend had a pit bull for 8 years. Great dog, One day, the owner was sitting outside and the dog walked by and bit his nose off. True story.
I still blame morons for breeding them that way. Not the dog's fault, but I just don't trust them. And I had a registered wolf hybrid for 18 yrs.
So, now, in looking for a dog, I'm wondering how much pit bull is OK. I don't think there's an answer.

daengmei
12-02-2022, 01:25 AM
My pit/lab is very loving, and too big to let her have her way. And I did get her at 1 year, a pet shelter. The way she looked, needing attention, I had to take her. She will not sit still, paws the ground while sitting, anxious to the extreme. I probably spoiled her, but she protects my home and wife, a man would have to shoot her to stop her from being attacked when she wants to. That may be bad, but bad folks living around me keep their distance and noone knows I pack yet, lol.

jonp
12-04-2022, 08:31 AM
We had a Valley Bulldog which is a bulldog/boxer mix. Nicest dog ever. She thought everyone was her friend but was odd in one aspect. If you were laying on the ground like under a car she would come over, sniff at you then sit down and guard you. Loved kids and would sit there guarding them. One time someone she didn't know came near wife's granddaughter and she growled so deep that guy gave a wide berth. I would have no problem getting another one.

Battis
12-04-2022, 05:21 PM
Last Thursday I was going to the shelter to get that 11 month old Lab/pit mix but I felt like crap so I decided to wait. That night around midnight I told my wife that I thought I was dying. Went to the ER and I was almost right. I was having a bad heart attack. Tests, transported to the big hospital, more tests, nitro, pills, and a stent the next day. 98% blockage.
Four days later and I'm finally home. I don't think I was meant to get that dog, that day.
Don't wait. Any doubt - did I eat too much? Get checked.

Battis
12-13-2022, 10:25 AM
Doggy search update:
I found a dog in a shelter that is perfect. He's an Anatolian Shepherd - Golden Retriever mix. 3 yrs old, 60 lbs. He was a stray from Lockhart, TX, and just arrived in NH on Dec. 1st. Being a stray, he's a rascal, but he'll come around.
He loves the snow (so far). I don't trust him off leash yet.
We kept his name - George.