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Dieselhorses
11-21-2022, 12:03 AM
Wanted to verify what "era" the 10-5 was made. C67XXXX. I had a file on my PC with some earlier dates-said between 1954-56? Does that sound right?


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rintinglen
11-21-2022, 01:35 AM
1963-1965, per the Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson.

Looks like you have a good, old service revolver and can expect many years of good use out of it.

armoredman
11-21-2022, 02:01 AM
I had a 10-5 YEARS ago, highly regret letting it go. Very nice, sir.

stubshaft
11-21-2022, 02:27 AM
I'd have to agree on the 63-65 dates, the 50's were a little too early for a -5 series.

eastbank
11-21-2022, 12:35 PM
307115, my 10-5 has been a fine revolver. I carry it as a woods walking revolver in a shoulder holster.

Dieselhorses
11-21-2022, 01:15 PM
I have to agree guys, it is fun to shoot and surprisingly miniscule creep in cylinder. So, I attached the Word doc-if any or all of this info is "bogus" please let me know. I'm trying to find a reasonable S&W book/guide as we speak. What is the latest edition?

Post-War S Series N frames:
S62,489 – S67,999……..1946 - Early 1947
S68,000 – S71,999……….Late 1947 – Early 1948
S72,000 – S72,499……….Late 1948 - Early 1949
S72,500 – S74,999……….Late 1949 – Early 1950
S75,000 – S80,499……….Late 1950 – Early 1951
S80,500 – S85,999……….Late 1952 – Early 1952
S86,000 – S94,999…….…Late 1952 – Early 1953
S95,000 – S102,999…….Late 1953 – Early 1954
S103,000 – S139,999……Late 1954 – Early 1955*
S140,000 – S149,999….Late 1955 – Early 1956
S150,000 – S175,999……Late 1956 – Early 1957
S176,000 – S181,999……Late 1957 – Early 1958
S182,000 – S194,499……Late 1958 – Early 1959
S194,500 – S206.999……Late 1959 – Early 1960
S207,000 – S219,999……Late 1960 – Early 1961
S220,000 – S227,999……Late 1961 – Early 1962
S228,000 – S231,999……Late 1962 – Early 1963
S232,000 – S235.999……Late 1963 – Early 1964
S236,000 – S257,999……Late 1964 – Early 1965
S258,000 – S261,999……Late 1965 – Early 1966
S262,000 – S289,999……Late 1966 – Early 1967
S290,000 – S304,999……Late 1967 – Early 1968
S305,000 – S329,999……Late 1968 – Early 1969
S330,000 – S333,454……Late 1969 – Early 1970
N Series N Frames:
N1 – N60,000………….......1970-72
N60,001 – N 190,000…...1972-74
N190,001 – N430,000…...1975 – 77
N430.001 – N 550,000…..1978
N550,001 – N580,000….. 1979
N580,001 – N790,000…...1980
N790,001 – N932,999...…1980-83
Post-War S Series K Frames:
S811,120 – S999,999…….1946 – 48
C Series K Frames: (Fixed Sight Models)
C1 - C233,999………….....1948 – 52
C236,004 – C261,483…….1953
C277,555 – C314,031….…1954 – 56
C402,924 – C405,018…….1957
C405,019 – C429,740…..1958 – 59
C429,741 – C474,148…….1960
C474,149 – C622,699…….1961 – 62
C622,700 – C810,532…….1963 – 65
C810,533 – C999,999…..1966 – 67
D Series K Frames: (Fixed Sight Models)
D1 – D90,000…………….....1968
D90,001 – D330,000……..1969 -70
D330,001 – D420,000………1971 – Early 72
D420,001 – D510,000………Late 1972 – Early 73
D510,001 – D659,901………Late 1973 – Early 1974
D659.902 – D75000………..Late 1974 – Early 1975
D750,001 – D870,000………Late 1975 – Early 1976
D870,001 – D999,999………Late 1976 – Early 1977
2D00001 - 2D80,000……….1977
2D80,001 – 2D99,999………1978
4D00001 – 6D10,000……….1979
6D10,0001 – 7D10,000……1980
7D10,001 – 9D44,500…..1981
9D44,501 – 17D8,900………1982
17D8,901 – 21D0883……….1983
K Series K Frames (Adjustable Sight Models)
K101 – K614……………......1946
K615 – K18,731…………....1947
K18,732 – K73,121……..…1948
K73,122 – K84,149……..…1949
K84,150 – K104,047…...1950
K104,048 – K136,690...1951
K136,691 – K175,637...1952
K175,638 – K210,095...1953
K210,096 – K231,255...1954
K231,256 – K266,154...1955
K266,155 – K288,988...1956
K288,989 – K317,822...1957
K317,823 – K350,547...1958
K350,548 – K386,804...1959
K386,805 – K429,894...1960
K429,895 – K468,098...1961
K468,099 – K515,478...1962
K515,479 – K553,999....1963
K555,000 – K605.877....1964
K605,878 – K658.986....1965
K658,987 – K715,996....1966
K715,997 – K779.162....1967
K779,163 – K848,781....1968
K848,782 – K946,391....1969
K946,382 – K999,999....1970
1K1 – 1K39,500.........1970
2K1 – 2K22.037.........1970
1K39,501 – 1K999,999...1971
2K22,038 – 2K55,996....1971
3K1 – 3K73,962.........1971
2K55,997 – 2K99,999....1972
3K31,280 – 5K6,616.....1972
4K1 – 4K1,627..........1972
4K1,628 – 4K54,104.....1973
5K6,617 – 5K73,962.....1973
4K54,105 – 4K99,999....1974
5K73,963 – 6K58,917....1974
7K1 – 7K26,043.........1974
7K26,044 – 7K70,577....1975
6K98,918 – 8K20,763....1975
8K20,764 – 9K1.........1975
8K20,000 – 9K100,000...1975
9K1,001 – 9K99,999.....1976
10K001 – 24K9,999......1977
25K001 – 56K9,999......1978 – 79
57K001 – 91K6,800......1980
91K6,801 – 124K000.....1981
125K000 – 269K9,999....1982
270K000 – 311K273......1983
1980 Three-Letter Prefix Series Begins at AAA000

FergusonTO35
11-21-2022, 01:18 PM
I got it's 1967 sibling, great wheelguns!

Dieselhorses
11-21-2022, 01:32 PM
I got it's 1967 sibling, great wheelguns!

Nice! I wonder what they changed from one number to next (10-5, 10-6 etc)

Der Gebirgsjager
11-21-2022, 05:19 PM
Books: History of Smith & Wesson, Roy G. Jinks, Beinfeld.
Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, Jim Supica and Richard Nahas, Krause Publications.

Standard Catalog serial numbers list places your revolver in the 1963-1965 range, and judging by the spread I'd guess 1st half of 1964.

10-6 says "Triggerguard screw eliminated on heavy barrel model.

DG

rintinglen
11-21-2022, 08:32 PM
Each "Dash" represents an engineering change, some pretty noticeable, ie 4 screw to 3 screw changed 10-2 to 10-4 pencil barrel, Model 10 becomes 10-1 when Heavy Barrel model began. Others were somewhat obscure.

For example, 10-2, change threads on extractor rod from right hand to left hand on pencil barrel, but 10-3 is exactly the same thing, only on heavy barrel guns. To make matters worse, more than a few were mis-marked as older frames were used up, Heavy barrels on 10-5 or 10-7 guns, pencil barrels on 10-6 or 10-8, etc. From an end-user stand point, not much difference. They all rotate counter-clockwise, shoot 38 specials, save for a very few made in 357 magnum for the NYSP and gave sterling service for many years.

And in my view, you can search high and low but you will be hard pressed to find a better gun for the non-dedicated user.

Dieselhorses
11-21-2022, 10:48 PM
Each "Dash" represents an engineering change, some pretty noticeable, ie 4 screw to 3 screw changed 10-2 to 10-4 pencil barrel, Model 10 becomes 10-1 when Heavy Barrel model began. Others were somewhat obscure.

For example, 10-2, change threads on extractor rod from right hand to left hand on pencil barrel, but 10-3 is exactly the same thing, only on heavy barrel guns. To make matters worse, more than a few were mis-marked as older frames were used up, Heavy barrels on 10-5 or 10-7 guns, pencil barrels on 10-6 or 10-8, etc. From an end-user stand point, not much difference. They all rotate counter-clockwise, shoot 38 specials, save for a very few made in 357 magnum for the NYSP and gave sterling service for many years.

And in my view, you can search high and low but you will be hard pressed to find a better gun for the non-dedicated user.

So, a tapered barrel isn't necessarily a "pencil barrel"? I read on S&W forum that around 6 million of these were made. I wonder what it's worth.

Der Gebirgsjager
11-22-2022, 01:46 PM
As far as I know a pencil barrel and a tapered barrel are one and the same. Always willing to learn, so if that isn't so, please provide a reference.

DG

Dieselhorses
11-23-2022, 03:29 AM
I can humbly say - I don't think I could surpass many of you all's knowledge when it comes to S&W's.

rintinglen
11-23-2022, 10:34 AM
Re Value:
That varies from place to place and especially on condition, though condition on these is less important than on some others, unless absolutely mint. Most people shopping for one just want a shooter.

Around here, a 4" will sell pretty fast in the 350-400 dollar range, if in good mechanical condition. They set on the shelf at 550 and gather dust. Now, a particularly choice example, especially if it has the original box and paperwork, can go for several hundred bucks more, but that's not what you have. Curiously, a 6 inch might run a little bit more than a comparable 4 or 5 inch, while a 2 inch is going to run 50-100 bucks more, all else being equal.

Ed K
12-06-2022, 11:40 PM
Barney Fyfe vintage. Remember to keep a round in your shirt pocket!

Char-Gar
12-07-2022, 03:17 PM
No home is complete without a Pencil Barrel Model 10. Mine is a 1960 vintage.

Dieselhorses
12-08-2022, 01:30 AM
No home is complete without a Pencil Barrel Model 10. Mine is a 1960 vintage.

Nice! Are those the original grips?


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junkbug
12-08-2022, 12:36 PM
They look like Skeeter Skelton Bear Hug grips

curiousgeorge
12-08-2022, 12:46 PM
I've got a model 10 no dash and a model 36 no dash that have been my EDC guns for over 30 years. Both are getting fairly blue worn but are mechanically excellent, shoot to point of aim with my reloads, and have my full confidence that they will work every time I pull the trigger. A good friend of mine almost cries every time it comes up in conversation that I'm carrying 2 no dash "collector's" guns. I'm using them for their intended purpose and will still own them when I die, so 'resale' value has no meaning on those two.

Dieselhorses
12-08-2022, 06:55 PM
I've got a model 10 no dash and a model 36 no dash that have been my EDC guns for over 30 years. Both are getting fairly blue worn but are mechanically excellent, shoot to point of aim with my reloads, and have my full confidence that they will work every time I pull the trigger. A good friend of mine almost cries every time it comes up in conversation that I'm carrying 2 no dash "collector's" guns. I'm using them for their intended purpose and will still own them when I die, so 'resale' value has no meaning on those two.

I know where you coming from. I have a few other SW pistols that I wouldn’t know where to start if I absolutely had to sell.


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Dutchman
12-09-2022, 12:51 AM
A genuine S&W Military & Police Model 1905 4th Change S-prefix circa 1947.

https://images12.fotki.com/v539/photos/4/28344/9895637/20180430_185915x-vi.jpg (https://public.fotki.com/dutchman/firearms/20180430-185915x.html)

S&W Military & Police Model 1905 4th Change mfg circa 1923. Old police gun. Barrel is loose in frame. Has FIVE factory repair/reblue dates.

https://images46.fotki.com/v1662/photos/2/28344/3347807/q08correctstocks-vi.jpg (https://public.fotki.com/dutchman/crufflerstuff/sw/q08_correct_stocks.html)

Char-Gar
12-09-2022, 03:07 PM
Great M & Ps are the game, I will play. Here is a very good 1931 5". I have the original grips but prefer others for shooting. I have several more, but this will do.

Der Gebirgsjager
12-09-2022, 09:02 PM
307914

Altamont grips.


DG

Texas by God
12-09-2022, 09:34 PM
They are good companions. This one is a mix of parts and a former world traveler. But it has found its home now. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221210/b03bb1698a5cb66d133949fdc7056431.jpg

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WRideout
12-09-2022, 09:47 PM
I happened to meet a former Marine who had been on embassy duty in South America; Venezuela, I think. He said they were issued revolvers as their duty weapons. Probably cousins of these Mod 10s.

Wayne