RCC Bankrupt

[Shanghai Jack]

Received notice today of Roberson Cartridge Co bankruptcy - there goes almost $300.00

[salpal48]

I also received my letter Today. And the FAT LADY SINGS

[georgerkahn]

Received notice today of Roberson Cartridge Co bankruptcy - there goes almost $300.00

I truly feel for you, but I have had a pre-paid order in a few years ago with a firm which also went belly-up. Much to my (pleasant) surprise, I first received the bankruptcy notice, and then maybe a week later a loss-payable-form to fill out. Albeit certified or registered mail was advised, I filled out the form and put a normal 1st Class stamp on it. Almost a year later I received a cheque for (I do not remember exact -- sorry!) about 80% of what I had sent in.
My thoughts were the courts assess all assets; all liabilities; and make a judgement vis what is to be done for resolution. In this case, paid in funds were returned at a fairly high percentage. I was out a lot less than you -- ~ $113.00 USD -- and got about ninety bucks back.
RCC has a telephone number listed, too. Perhaps -- (806) 329-3130 -- you may give them a 'phone call or two?
BEST wishes!
geo

[M-Tecs]

It's chapter 7 so assets will be sold off https://www.bkalerts.com/recent-bankruptcy-cases/texas-northern-bankruptcy-court/2:22-bk-20192/bankruptcy-case-roberson-cartridge-co-llc

https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/rcc-brass-how-long-from-order-to-received.298274/page-2

[dverna]

I recall "window shopping" on their site and seeing brass for $4-7 each. So glad I never had the itch to own a caliber that needed custom made brass.

I would have thought their business was "bullet proof". No competition, and guys willing to spend north of $4/case are not going to fret about $150/k primers.

Sad that it happened, and people will be affected.

[TNsailorman]

I joined a fitness establishment the year I retired and paid a good hunk of change for a 2 year subscription. They moved out two nights later with no forwarding address and nobody knew where they went. Police were not all that concerned and as far as I know they only took complaints and filed them. We live and learn. james

[georgerkahn]

I joined a fitness establishment the year I retired and paid a good hunk of change for a 2 year subscription. They moved out two nights later with no forwarding address and nobody knew where they went. Police were not all that concerned and as far as I know they only took complaints and filed them. We live and learn. james

So sorry re your loss, James! Sadly it seems "others" always come out ahead -- not you, me, and other common folk...
geo

[TNsailorman]

George, the loss of money was not the big issue with me. Maybe I am an old dinosauer or overly naive, but the fact that a fellow human being would deliberately sign up a bunch of people and then skip town in the middle of the night really cut into my ability to have faith in my fellow man. I still have faith and love for my fellow man but for a few days, it was touch and go. I finally came around to this; My God is Alive and He loves me and that is the only thing that matters in this old world. The best is yet to come, james

[405grain]

TNsailorman: there's a very old saying by Confusius: "If you wait long enough by the river you'll see the body of your enemy float by." A good and decent person will live a good and decent life. Those that swindle and cheat will never have true friends, will have to constantly look over their shoulder, and will have to bare the crushing weight of guilt upon their souls. Don't spend another second feeling bad about people that try to make you question the faith of your fellow man; people like that are their own punishment.

[salpal48]

What Really hursts is that their website is still up and running and still taking orders . This means Their interested In getting as much money as possible in their hands and stiffing customers

[Lostinidaho]

Thats too bad for those who have lost money.

I bought some 56-50 rimfire cases. They are well made. It did take months to get them.

An acquaintance of mine, who on/operates a CNC machine shop says he is always looking for small products to be produced during down times.

Has anyone tried Rocky Mountain cartridge?

[uscra112]

I have a small batch of RMC .25-20 Stevens cases that I acquired a good few years ago. I find them very brittle, even after annealing. As far as I know, it is still impossible to buy bar stock in the correct "cartridge brass" alloy, which is part of the problem.

[DocSavage]

Wonder how that 475 AR 10 is going to sell now,wasn't RCC the source of brass.

[William Yanda]

When I saw RCC I thought Republican Campaign Committee.

[GONRA]

GONRA sez - ya gotta be BRAVE to make cartridge cases on an automatic screw machine
load up and actually SHOOT 'EM! Be Careful! EYE PROECTION!

[muskeg13]

Thats too bad for those who have lost money.

I bought some 56-50 rimfire cases. They are well made. It did take months to get them.

An acquaintance of mine, who on/operates a CNC machine shop says he is always looking for small products to be produced during down times.

Has anyone tried Rocky Mountain cartridge?

I bought two orders of Rocky Mountain Cartridge 12 ga 2 5/8" brass cases from them a few years ago. I was so impressed with the first order of 20, that I got 20 more. I was worried when I saw the company and assets up for sale, but they were still taking orders. They warned of a possible lengthy shipping time, but I got my orders delivered in about 2 weeks. They were expensive, but are absolutely beautiful thick walled "everlasting" cases that really should last me for the rest of my life. Since these are not intended to be crimped (glue is used to secure the over shot cards) and are fired at low shotgun shell pressures, brittleness/annealing isn't a concern.

[uscra112]

Who said they use a screw machine?

[redneck1]

Website is up , but they are not taking orders so I guess we can dispense with that nonsense .

I don't find it a darn bit surprising to see bankruptcy here , expensive raw material. Combined with a limited market equals bad idea .
I think it could be done as a sideline for someone who has an interest in it and doesn't need it to cover overhead and other expenses. As a stand alone business model ... not a chance .

[ndnchf]

I think their minimum order of 50 cases turned off a lot of potential buyers. Had it been 25, I would have ordered some. But just for fun, I decided to try and make my own lathe turned case - a .41 short rimfire. I'm no machinist and had never attempted something like this, so it took a while. Lots of measuring and double checking. But in the end it came out well. I've loaded and fired it 7 or 8 times so far. For those of you with a lathe, give it a try. It gives an appreciation of what companies like RCC and Roberson go through. Although I imagine they use the latest CNC equipment.

[Rickf1985]

Nice work! I really wish I never got rid of my benchtop lath. It was a good old American made one although I don't remember the brand. I used it for years doing small automotive work. Once I sold my shop I had nowhere to set it up so it went away and I have regretted that decision from a week after I made it. There are tons of Chinese benchtops out there and you can even use that lathe to make much better parts for THAT lathe to make it an actual accurate machine. I just don't have the time or patience for that anymore. And honestly, I don't know if I would trust my own work on a cartridge!!!

[uscra112]

That one's easy. Think about doing a skinny rifle case like .25-21 or some such. Holding the concentricity and wall thickness, not to mention surface finish, becomes a nightmare. I'm guessing they drilled and bored the inside, then cut it off, turned it around and slipped it on a mandrel to do the O.D. Then there's that engraved headstamp.

[Digital Dan]

Purchased some brass from RMC before it was owned by the current operators, .25-20 SS. Good stuff it was. Purchased some brass from the current owners about 3 years ago and it was junk, not even close to SAAMI specs. Returned it with explanation...they kept the brass and the money.

Purchased some from RCC not long after and the first small sample was also not spec. Talked to them and they corrected the error and I purchased 150 cases. What they didn't tell me was that the $1/case cost of the first batch had been jacked up to $3/case.

They can all go rot in a hot place as far as I'm concerned.

[CBH]

I joined a fitness establishment the year I retired and paid a good hunk of change for a 2 year subscription. They moved out two nights later with no forwarding address and nobody knew where they went. Police were not all that concerned and as far as I know they only took complaints and filed them. We live and learn. james

Fitness gyms are notorious for that.

[toot]

as said- you reap what you sow. the cow only has so much milk. does that make sense?

[Squid Boy]

I just received my ten piece order of 4" eight gauge brass hulls from Rocky Mountain after about an eight month wait. They are excellent and worth the wait and price. I must say a lot of brass was sacrificed to make those big boys. I plan to get more so I hope they keep the doors open. Thanks, Squid Boy