357 Maximum & the Bradshaw/Martin Bullet

[sixshot]

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Shot this buck on Oct. 12th at 142 yds with a 197 gr. Bradshaw/Martin cast bullet. Bullet went through both lungs & exited, buck buckled in the back end & almost went down, he started to turn around & I shot again but missed & he started running straight at me for 10-15 yds & fell over in the stubble.
Dick

[tja6435]

Nice work

[stubshaft]

Good job!

[Ramjet-SS]

Nice shooting and outstanding table fare

[versa-06]

OOOOH! WEEE! That's Shoot'n! -- No That's Kill'n!!

[lar45]

Nice shootin Dick!

[ChristopherO]

That did the trick. Always on the look out for your pistola exploits. Keep them coming as they are much appreciated.

[gwpercle]

Made the first shot count ... Awesome +10 !
Nice harvest .
Detail the load ... grs. of what powder & what's a Bradshaw/Martin cast boolit ?
How long is that barrel ?
Gary

[sixshot]

Gary, its one of the 10.5" barrel Maximums & the load is 18.5 grs of 4227, Remington 7 1/2 primer & 197 gr bullet with no crimp groove. It's designed to be deep seated by David Bradshaw & is extremely accurate. We use just a slight crimp over the top driving band & also the bullet is gas checked. The mold was made by Mountain Molds. I think David Bradshaw & Lee Martin's bullets weigh 194 grs.
Dick

[Jim22]

I bet that gun hurts your ears.

Jim

[725]

Ya gotta love it when they run toward you! Well done.

[Jedman]

Nice shooting ! You are the man with handguns !!

Jedman

[marshall623]

Good shootn sixgun , I see the bullet hole just under the ejector rod tab . Nice boiler room shot at 142.

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[sixshot]

Jim, it isn't any louder than any other six gun if you're using heavy bullets & that longer barrel. Plus I use muffs or ear plugs when I'm set up ambush style in the brush waiting for them to work their way off of the mountain to come down into the fields. Hopefully it's just one shot & not a gun battle!!

Dick

[trapper9260]

Good shot and nice size deer . What did it dress out to? How much the weight of the meat you got ? I shot a doe doing the archery with a crossbow and came out with 68lbs. package in the freezer . Working on to get one with the muzzle loader. Good job .

[missionary5155]

Good morning and Congratulations!
Those are some fine looking grass munchers. Good shooting also..
What do your deer weigh out there ??
I am also a Supermag shooter. Have yet to pop one with the 357.

[Catshooter]

Nice work.

Don't ever let Ruger get their hands on that lovely sixgun man, you will never see it again.

[sixshot]

Most of the deer I've taken with the 357 Maximum have been with 180 gr HP's, but the first one was with a 173 gr Keith bullet & the kill was instant at about 95 yds, the buck walked straight back for about 6-7 yds & dropped from a double lung shot. The other 6-7 deer & I think 4 Antelope were taken between 70 yds & 220 yds. Only one deer ran more than 40 yds, most went right down.
We really need Ruger to bring back the 357 Maximum. There's no other gun that has the low recoil & the long range capability of this gun, it's a proven winner.

Dick

[taco650]

Most of the deer I've taken with the 357 Maximum have been with 180 gr HP's, but the first one was with a 173 gr Keith bullet & the kill was instant at about 95 yds, the buck walked straight back for about 6-7 yds & dropped from a double lung shot. The other 6-7 deer & I think 4 Antelope were taken between 70 yds & 220 yds. Only one deer ran more than 40 yds, most went right down.
We really need Ruger to bring back the 357 Maximum. There's no other gun that has the low recoil & the long range capability of this gun, it's a proven winner.

Dick

Nice job!

I also wish Ruger would bring back the 357 Max in the Blackhawk. The closest thing available now is the S&W in 350 Legend.

[megasupermagnum]

Nice job!

I also wish Ruger would bring back the 357 Max in the Blackhawk. The closest thing available now is the S&W in 350 Legend.

You can get the BFR in 357 max.

[sixshot]

If we ever get this gun produced again it's going to be through Lipsey's, they are the one's that are willing to go to Ruger & tell them what the shooters/hunters want & need in a long range six gun.

Dick

[T-Bird]

Heck of a shot. What, if anything, do you use for a rest in the field?

[tja6435]

It would be awesome if Ruger reintroduced the Maximum in .357 Max and .350 Legend so people could buy factory ammo if they weren’t reloaders. The rest of us would just need to get Starline to make some Max brass. I’ve been on their wait list for 18+ months, ordered and received 4 other calibers in the mean time, 350L, 38 short Colt, 44 Colt and 44 special.

[Rapier]

Good deer
I had a long talk with Steve Vogel at the Montgomery AL RCA show, asked him about the possibility of reintroducing the SRM and calling it the Pheonix, he about choked on his Scotch, sitting next to me. He bust out laughing and said Bill has a thing about that gun, it will never be produced again. Steve was Bill's son inlaw, VP of foreign sales, 70% of Ruger sales at the time.
So I shot my two in competition for two years and the cones started to crater, literally got little rivers, I sold them to collectorscand got a Seville, then an El Darado made in Chimney Rock, NC. El Dorado got it right. Stainless 10" with a bore bored cylinder, like FA, and bronze ball bearing cylinder pin mounts. They made frips under a hickory tree, out back, hand fitted every thing. Very nice gun. I ran 200 agrain RCBS taper crimped and about 20 gr of H-110 with small rifle primers, 205Ms. Worked on chickens at 200 meters.

[lar45]

I'd be happy with a max length BFR.

[sixshot]

They said the same thing about a 5 shot 480 also & we got that one done. Don't give up on a 357 Maximum from Ruger.

Dick

[lar45]

You are correct. The 5 shot they said would never happen.
I bought a 6.5" 480 from the first run.
So who do we write to?

[white eagle]

livin the dream Dick
good hunting another good shot
congrats

[MT Gianni]

I do like my contender bbl in the Max.

[rockrat]

Think the BFR is also chambered in 350L

[contender1]

"I had a long talk with Steve Vogel at the Montgomery AL RCA show, asked him about the possibility of reintroducing the SRM and calling it the Pheonix, he about choked on his Scotch, sitting next to me. He bust out laughing and said Bill has a thing about that gun, it will never be produced again. Steve was Bill's son inlaw, VP of foreign sales, 70% of Ruger sales at the time.
So I shot my two in competition for two years and the cones started to crater, literally got little rivers, I sold them to collectorscand got a Seville, then an El Darado made in Chimney Rock, NC. El Dorado got it right. Stainless 10" with a bore bored cylinder, like FA, and bronze ball bearing cylinder pin mounts. They made frips under a hickory tree, out back, hand fitted every thing. Very nice gun. I ran 200 agrain RCBS taper crimped and about 20 gr of H-110 with small rifle primers, 205Ms. Worked on chickens at 200 meters."

Bill had a temper & attitude. But he's gone, and there's not even a Ruger left in the Company. So,, as the saying goes; "Anything's possible." We can hope that they might consider making the .357 Maxi again.

Rapier, I live just a few miles from where the El Dorado's were made here in NC. I used to visit the shop and handle guns, shoot a few & in general dream. I couldn't afford one of their guns back then. But I always wanted a .45 Colt & a .357 Maxi. Well, about 10 years ago,, I managed to find a .45 Colt. I went to visit Russ, to show him I'd finally gotten one of his guns. He commented on how I'd always wanted one of those & the Maxi. I got his wife to snap a picture of us together with my gun. Russ passed away 10 days later. I later managed to get a .357 Mag that belonged to Forrest. It was his demo gun. I'm still hunting a .357 Maxi by them.

But I've got a .357 Maxi Ruger & like sixshot, I too use the Bradshaw/Martin bullet. And he's right,, VERY accurate. From what we know,, sixshot's mulie is the first game animal taken with that bullet/caliber combo. Locally, a young man recently came to me with his newly acquired Ruger Maxi, and he's also set up with the Bradshaw/Martin bullet. He's looking to take a bear & a deer with his.

Now,, to find a Chimney Rock El Dorado in .357 Max! :D :D

[megasupermagnum]

Think the BFR is also chambered in 350L

I'm sure you can get a BFR in just about anything if you asked them. You can even get one in 307 winchester, and I've certainly thought about them in the past.

[sixshot]

I think the best thing to do would be contact Jason at Lipsey's & let him know you are interested in the Ruger 357 Maximum in a 10.5" stainless gun. He's the one that sits down with Ruger & tries to twist their arm with something new.
Here are some photo's of bullets & of some rests that I use. I've taken a lot of game, mostly deer & antelope with either Keith bullets or 180 gr GC HP's in the last 10 years or so. I knew no one had taken a big game animal with the excellent Bradshaw/Martin bullet so I decided to do it this year & it worked just like I thought it would.
I've killed 3-4 deer beyond 180 yds with the Maximum, one was just under 220 yds. I've also taken, I think 4 antelope, these have been on depradation permits & I've used both the Bog Pod rest & the Barranti/Sixshot sling with great success. I always carry the Barranti sling in my pocket, it only weighs 5-6 oz's & you can have it ready in 4-5 seconds. It's pictured below. I also used it in Africa to take my Zebra. You adjust it at home to fit you & then just slip it on when you're ready to shoot, sitting up against a tree, rock, etc. Or sit in a chair with your feet on a stool, it's extremely steady when you flair out your knees.
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Dick

[sixshot]

I have many more photo's.

Dick

[contender1]

Folks,, pay attention here. Sixshot has shared some excellent information. And the pictures are superb.

[taco650]

I have many more photo's.

Dick

Feel free to share more of your pics! Thanks also for the info on the shooting sling. Never heard of it but now I’m intrigued

[contender1]

"Thanks also for the info on the shooting sling. Never heard of it but now I’m intrigued"

If you want one,, contact Mike "Doc" Barranti of Barranti leather. I like mine!

[doghawg]

In regards to the shooting sling the thought comes to mind......Why didn't I think of that??

[MT Gianni]

In regards to the shooting sling the thought comes to mind......Why didn't I think of that??

I have looped 1" strapping for a rest around my knees but always stepped through it. That is ingenious.

[sixshot]

"Doc" Barranti makes these with a quick release spring clip so they adjust fast & they stay adjusted. Once you get it adjusted you just flair out your legs & that tightens the sling & there's no burning your legs from the cylinder gap. Plus it's very steady, like I said, I used it on my Zebra in Africa with great success. For the hunter who is sitting on the ground, against a tree or rock, etc these things work great. If I'm practicing at the range I take a short chair or stool to sit on & another one for my feet & slip on my Barranti sling & I'm ready to go. I turn the Bear Track down but that's just the way I do it.
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Dick

[kenton]

You are correct. The 5 shot they said would never happen.
I bought a 6.5" 480 from the first run.
So who do we write to?

Another option to contact Ruger:

https://www.ruger.com/dataProcess/tellTheCEO/

[contender1]

Dick,, is one of those pictures showing the sling actually Doc? The one with the Super Blackhawk?

And asking the CEO option is ok,, but it's a business. And if a Distributor like Lipsey's wants something,, they work it out with Ruger to where they guarantee the purchase of all of a "Distributor Exclusive" and Ruger makes the gun. The CEO might be able to nudge it a bit,, but Lipsey's can push it harder. It's their money being invested.

[sixshot]

Tyrone, yes the photo is actually Doc Barranti with the long barreled gun where he is demonstrating his nifty sling setup.

Dick

[sixshot]

Two targets shot about 2 years ago with a 180 gr HP, one at 50 yds, the other at 100 yds scoped. This bullet shoots about the same as the Bradshaw/Martin bullet accuracy wise.
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Dick

[megasupermagnum]

Fantastic! That must be about 2" at 100 yards, with a revolver!? That's hard enough to do with a TC Encore. Great shooting.

[contender1]

"Fantastic! That must be about 2" at 100 yards, with a revolver!? That's hard enough to do with a TC Encore. Great shooting."

Yep,, he does it. I've seen it. Sixshot is a top handgunner.

[Greg]

Dick

I have two questions for you..

in post #33 last picture, is that a rest from Bog Pod ? I haven't been able to find the flat plate on their web site. does it have a part # ?

what is the length of the Maximum cylinder + case head ? I hope to pick up a Ruger Maximum this year, and been thinking of moulds that I already have.

thanks for your help, may God continue to Bless all ya'll.
Greg

[sixshot]

Hello Greg, the Bog Pod pistol rest is no longer available & if you find one for sale jump on it because they are very rare. I will have to get back to you on the cylinder length plus case head. The 357 Maximum's are also hard to find as you probably know but they do pop up for a day or so on some of the forums from time to time.
The best way to find one is to ask, just put out a feeler for a 357 Maximum & see if someone will sell one to you. Good luck!

Dick

[lar45]

The cylinder on my Ruger 357 Maximum with a case is 1.987"
The cylinder on my Seville 357 Maximum with a case is 2.177"
I don't have a Dan Wesson 357, but I do have a 375 SuperMag.
The cylinder with a case is 2.133"

I hope this helps.

[CSA]

Looks like a Ruger Super Black Hawk with square trigger guard was use to shoot that deer. How are the pachmyar grips on the revolver? do the grips interfere with the rolling of the gun during recoil?

[Greg]

Dick and Creeker

thank you !

[missionary5155]

Not many DW 375s out there either.. That was the 1st SM we bought and no regrets.

[taco650]

Looks like a Ruger Super Black Hawk with square trigger guard was use to shoot that deer. How are the pachmyar grips on the revolver? do the grips interfere with the rolling of the gun during recoil?

Not a square back. The grips cushion the recoil and fill your hand better than stock grips and reduce the roll up

[Beaverhunter2]

Very nicely done!

[TCLouis]

AS always Sixshot is out there doing what we all wish we could do!

Great shooting!

Does pay to know people with Ag land and depredation permits!