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sloughfoot
10-14-2022, 11:03 AM
My second season casting for 308 Winchester, my plan is to keep all my shots under 100 yards. I’ve worked up loads for the 150 fnhp from M&P molds and the Lee 170 fn using IMR 3031 and reloader7. Pushing them both around the 2000-2100 fps (according to the recipe) before accuracy falls off. I really need a chronograph! Alloy is 50/50 wheel weights and pure lead with a pinch of tin bar with every full pot of lead.14-16 bhn
I’d be really interested in your 30 caliber adventures success or fails. Deer picture was from last year my first 308 cast harvest with a neck shot.

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Bazoo
10-14-2022, 11:16 AM
My plan is to get a deer with handgun this year. Blackhawk 44 special. Nothing particular about the load. I might use my 4.8 bullseye / 44-250-k or might go with the skeeter load. I’m comfortable with the former and shots won’t be over 60 yards. I ain’t practiced with the skeeter load or anything nearly that warm in quite some time. Broadside I’m told will be fine with a standard 44 special. My 44-250-k ready to load comes in at 262 using ww alloy. 265 using 50/50 ww/soft. Both with a pinch of tin.

I don’t have any cast up but need to for 30-30. 31141. I might use that second if I get some cast. Course I do have about 8-10 from the last batch. I already have a load worked up enough. But I’m not confident with it yet. Bringing down a deer would raise the confidence level however. Course at hand dart range.... bout anything will suffice.

sloughfoot
10-14-2022, 11:33 AM
This bullet with red dot is doing great out of my H&R 158 Topper I plan to use it too this year. The recovered bullet was shot into 24 inches of folded wet denim and penetrated 20 inches at 50 yards305622305623305624305625

popper
10-14-2022, 12:04 PM
Interesting, picked up a pound of red dot yesterday, need some recipes for 30/30 and maybe BO. Thinking maybe WSF for the BO also. I use Imr4895 mostly in 308, run about 2200. Got good results with harder alloy @ 2400 in AR10. Might try WD your alloy?
Got a Magnetospeed V3 I'm interested in selling. Got my loads worked out so no more use for it. PM me if interested.

sloughfoot
10-14-2022, 12:13 PM
My plan is to get a deer with handgun this year. Blackhawk 44 special. Nothing particular about the load. I might use my 4.8 bullseye / 44-250-k or might go with the skeeter load. I’m comfortable with the former and shots won’t be over 60 yards. I ain’t practiced with the skeeter load or anything nearly that warm in quite some time. Broadside I’m told will be fine with a standard 44 special. My 44-250-k ready to load comes in at 262 using ww alloy. 265 using 50/50 ww/soft. Both with a pinch of tin.

I don’t have any cast up but need to for 30-30. 31141. I might use that second if I get some cast. Course I do have about 8-10 from the last batch. I already have a load worked up enough. But I’m not confident with it yet. Bringing down a deer would raise the confidence level however. Course at hand dart range.... bout anything will suffice.


Interesting, picked up a pound of red dot yesterday, need some recipes for 30/30 and maybe BO. Thinking maybe WSF for the BO also. I use Imr4895 mostly in 308, run about 2200. Got good results with harder alloy @ 2400 in AR10. Might try WD your alloy?
Got a Magnetospeed V3 I'm interested in selling. Got my loads worked out so no more use for it. PM me if interested.

Try the Ed Harris load with the red dot powder in 30-30

dverna
10-14-2022, 12:56 PM
Try the Ed Harris load with the red dot powder in 30-30

If that is 13 gr of RD, DO NOT DO IT. That is overpressure in the .30/30. Max is about 9 gr of RD with 150-170 gr bullets

Sgt H
10-14-2022, 01:12 PM
Lyman 457122 loaded over 30gr of 5744 fired from my Sharps or 1886 Browning 45-70. Cast them of 96/2/2 to try this year, previously used 30/1. Loaded one to 1100fps over Unique and shot it into water. Front half fragmented with most of the pieces weighing 30-40 grains. The base weighed 186 grains and was expanded to .530". As cast weight 337 grains. FWIW the 30/1 boolits would fragment on very close 20-30 yard shots on deer with multiple exit wounds. 1100fps corresponds to 150 yard impact velocity with my load, farther than I will shoot. Shots are generally 75 yards or closer. Water is much harder on bullets than deer and I expect this load to perform in a satisfactory manner on our small central TX whitetails.

sloughfoot
10-14-2022, 02:12 PM
Lyman 457122 loaded over 30gr of 5744 fired from my Sharps or 1886 Browning 45-70. Cast them of 96/2/2 to try this year, previously used 30/1. Loaded one to 1100fps over Unique and shot it into water. Front half fragmented with most of the pieces weighing 30-40 grains. The base weighed 186 grains and was expanded to .530". As cast weight 337 grains. FWIW the 30/1 boolits would fragment on very close 20-30 yard shots on deer with multiple exit wounds. 1100fps corresponds to 150 yard impact velocity with my load, farther than I will shoot. Shots are generally 75 yards or closer. Water is much harder on bullets than deer and I expect this load to perform in a satisfactory manner on our small central TX whitetails.

That’s sounds like you’re in for a good season

Bazoo
10-14-2022, 02:25 PM
Sadly I ain’t got no Reddot. I’ve been running 31141 full throttle with w748 and 3031. 28 grains of 3031 gets me the same poi as factory 170s but 27 was a bit more accurate, though a sight notch lower.

I have the lee 309-150-f I’ve played with some, but ain’t really worked any loads up. I am wanting to work up a mid range load with it. Something strong enough for deer but light enough to plink with all day without the gun getting too hot. Maybe 4227? My choices are a bit limited right now.

And I have the 311-93-1r but ain’t worked with it much. I’m thinking bullseye here. But not much reason, as small game ain’t legal here in my state with centerfire, and I have (and can replace) plenty of 22lr.

BamaNapper
10-14-2022, 03:37 PM
My thoughts at the moment are to carry the muzzleloader all season. I've got a stash of the 50 cal 250gr Lee REAL bullets on the bench that I cast up this summer. They should work fine on these smallish AL deer. My stand gives me maybe 75 yards shooting, so it's a good match for the gun. I plink with the muzzleloader throughout the year but it seems I always grab the 308 when I head to the woods. I have yet to harvest a deer with a smoke pole.

Then again, it would be a good spot to hunt with the handgun. And that old Blackhawk just loves to go hunting. Decisions, decisions.

sloughfoot
10-14-2022, 03:47 PM
Sadly I ain’t got no Reddot. I’ve been running 31141 full throttle with w748 and 3031. 28 grains of 3031 gets me the same poi as factory 170s but 27 was a bit more accurate, though a sight notch lower.

I have the lee 309-150-f I’ve played with some, but ain’t really worked any loads up. I am wanting to work up a mid range load with it. Something strong enough for deer but light enough to plink with all day without the gun getting too hot. Maybe 4227? My choices are a bit limited right now.

And I have the 311-93-1r but ain’t worked with it much. I’m thinking bullseye here. But not much reason, as small game ain’t legal here in my state with centerfire, and I have (and can replace) plenty of 22lr.


I did a test of 28,29,and 30 grains 28 being most accurate and groups opened up really quick at 29 and more at 30305635305636305637

sloughfoot
10-14-2022, 03:49 PM
4227 is an excellent choice for 150 grain 308

Winger Ed.
10-14-2022, 05:45 PM
I don't refer to a successful hunting trip as harvesting.
That's some PC nonsense for hoping people who hate you will hate you a little less if you bend over backwards trying not to offend them.
As I've gotten older, and seeing how pointless it was----I now try to give them the chance to not offend me.

I'm a big fan of 3031 in .308 with a hard cast 170 RNGC.
I can't remember the charge, but it's pretty close to max. from the Lyman book.
I shot and killed two deer with that load when they walked by in front of my Springfield M1A a little inside of 100 yards.
Neither took another step, and the wound channel looked like a golf ball went through it.
I didn't recover the boolit, but there were no Lead fragments in the meat. I figure it pretty much stayed intact.

Back when I used to hunt, I usually carried a Rem 700 with the same 170 and either 3031 or 13gr of Red Dot.
I had the same results with it. All were instant kills.
I took the M1A one year because I'd had it awhile and hadn't killed anything with it.

sloughfoot
10-14-2022, 06:31 PM
Harvesting is exactly what it is. I’m going to get meat to store and eat. But hey to each their own

Mk42gunner
10-14-2022, 06:34 PM
Alloy is 50/50 wheel weights and pure lead with a pinch of tin bar with every full pot of lead.14-16 bhn
?????

I don't see how WW plus pure lead can be anywhere near that hard. My current stash of WW runs about 12.5 BHN, with no softeners.

Robert

quilbilly
10-14-2022, 07:24 PM
Interesting, picked up a pound of red dot yesterday, need some recipes for 30/30 and maybe BO. Thinking maybe WSF for the BO also. I use Imr4895 mostly in 308, run about 2200. Got good results with harder alloy @ 2400 in AR10. Might try WD your alloy?
Got a Magnetospeed V3 I'm interested in selling. Got my loads worked out so no more use for it. PM me if interested.
RD has become one of my CB go-to powders for several calibers including 308, 30/30, and 270. If memory serves, 10 gr. has performed well in my 30/30 with 155 gr RFGC's.

sloughfoot
10-14-2022, 11:08 PM
I could be wrong but I’m pretty good (I think) at using the set of labeled pencils. That’s just my personal findings.

trails4u
10-14-2022, 11:54 PM
I stopped reading at 'neck shot'... To each his own.

Bazoo
10-15-2022, 12:30 AM
I stopped reading at 'neck shot'... To each his own.
Me too... since it was the last words in the post.

Is there some reason neck shots aren’t sufficient or ethical?

Winger Ed.
10-15-2022, 02:56 AM
Harvesting is exactly what it is. I’m going to get meat to store and eat. But hey to each their own

Yeah, I know.
I remember when the term along, and using the word 'weapon' came along.
Everybody was all worried about what the purple haired, non-achieving, mouth breathers thought.

Anyway, good luck with your harvesting this season.
Gosh I hate saying that word.:bigsmyl2:

Jeff Michel
10-15-2022, 08:04 AM
West Virginia's antlerless season starts next week. Good time to break out my 40-50 BN.

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Good Cheer
10-15-2022, 08:06 AM
West Virginia's antlerless season starts next week. Good time to break out my 40-50 BN.

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That there's a purty boolit!

Good Cheer
10-15-2022, 08:13 AM
If I put a deer in the freezer this year it might be with this but I'm not done developing data.
https://i.imgur.com/ccW5Dts.jpg

sloughfoot
10-15-2022, 08:27 AM
West Virginia's antlerless season starts next week. Good time to break out my 40-50 BN.

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As a lover of rimmed cartridges I’m sad to say this one is unfamiliar to me. I like what I see. Can you educate me on this one. Please, thank you and good hunting

hc18flyer
10-15-2022, 08:32 AM
I have a Henry single shot rifle rechambered to .357 Maximum that keeps whimpering at me every time I open the safe. Hunting load is a 180 grain NOE rnfp ahead of 26 grains of Accurate 1680. Tired of the whimpering, needs to 'make meat' this Fall.
hc18flyer

Good Cheer
10-15-2022, 09:07 AM
https://i.imgur.com/TZkklmp.jpg

Been wanting to brew up a paper patched black powder loading for this one as well as for the 9.3x74.
Too many irons in the fire.

sloughfoot
10-15-2022, 09:39 AM
https://i.imgur.com/TZkklmp.jpg

Been wanting to brew up a paper patched black powder loading for this one as well as for the 9.3x74.
Too many irons in the fire.

What is a 38 long COX? I tried looking it up with no luck

Good Cheer
10-15-2022, 09:56 AM
it's a cartridge designed to be accurate with cast of large enough diameter and weight as to be overkill for hunting deer out to 200 yards; 45-70 necked down to a standard .377 groove diameter barrel, steep shoulder and 9/16" long case neck to hold lots of lube grooves.

marshall623
10-15-2022, 10:59 AM
I'm aiming to try out Dad's BB94 he gave me , I'm just getting started but I'm thinking the Lee 250 cast from COWW with 2% tin .These are water quenched and I'll temper the noses on the ones I'm hunting with . These will be over 28 to 28.5 gr of RL7 . Still have 1 more range trip and we will be ready . I've had some range time with this one and I'm real close . https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221015/e9ee3f545ba72c20b193f70eb5cac8b5.jpg

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sloughfoot
10-15-2022, 11:21 AM
it's a cartridge designed to be accurate with cast of large enough diameter and weight as to be overkill for hunting deer out to 200 yards; 45-70 necked down to a standard .377 groove diameter barrel, steep shoulder and 9/16" long case neck to hold lots of lube grooves.

Was it a custom build, sounds awesome and deadly

sloughfoot
10-15-2022, 11:26 AM
That’s a sweet combination

Texas by God
10-15-2022, 01:25 PM
44-40 with Lee 200gr RF, 38-55 with Lee 250gr RF, 30-06 with HS 193 gr FN, 6.8 SPC with Hornady 110gr bthp.
I've never killed deer with any of these cartridges.
All my other rifles- I have.

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txbirdman
10-15-2022, 02:27 PM
My intent is to take a buck and 2 does this season. I plan on cutting the back strap into steaks and using the rest for deer jerkey. My intent is to use my 1903 Remington for the buck; my 1948 vintage 94 Winchester for 1 doe; and my ‘94 Marlin in .357 for the other. We’ll see how it all works out.

versa-06
10-15-2022, 03:06 PM
sloughfoot; What boolit are you using & what velocity are you getting. Nice Gun.

sloughfoot
10-15-2022, 03:46 PM
sloughfoot; What boolit are you using & what velocity are you getting. Nice Gun.


I’m actually using the Lee 170 fn with gas check and the M&P 150 fnhp not sure of the mold number. I’ll try and get them. And I recently got a rifle better suited to cast which is the savage axis II 305662

sloughfoot
10-15-2022, 03:54 PM
sloughfoot; What boolit are you using & what velocity are you getting. Nice Gun.

https://www.mp-molds.com/product/314-140-sledgehammer-hollow-point-gas-check-4-cavity-mold/

35 Rem
10-16-2022, 07:12 AM
The rifle I most want to get a deer with this year is a Winchester 94AE in 32 Winchester Special. I only got the rifle a couple months ago and it required most of that time obtaining some Starline Brass so was just able to work on a load this week. I'm using the RCBS-32-170-FN cast from 50/50 CoWW/Pure lead + 2%Tin with 32.0 grains H4895 which is the Starting Load from the Hodgdon website for a 170 grain bullet. Supposed to be 2,122 ft/sec but I haven't chronographed it from my rifle yet. That's about the velocity I try for in a deer load. So far the accuracy is good but more shooting is needed and need to do some water jug testing to compare to my known 35 Remington cast load before using it on deer.

Jedman
10-16-2022, 07:49 AM
I will probably only hunt in my home state of MI this year. Down in the southern zone where I live it will be my martini cadet chambered in 357 maximum with a 205 gr. RFNGC .
When I hunt up north it will be my Henry single shot that is rechambered to 35 Rem. with the same boolit. If I take a deer early with this gun I will try hunting with my handi rifle that I built a barrel in 256 Win Mag with a 87 gr. jacketed bullet. Since this is a legal caliber and it’s super accurate I feel it’s up to the task for deer under 125 yards.
Jedman

Jeff Michel
10-16-2022, 08:38 AM
As a lover of rimmed cartridges I’m sad to say this one is unfamiliar to me. I like what I see. Can you educate me on this one. Please, thank you and good hunting

It was one of the original caliber's for the Sharp's Rifle company though others such as Remington chambered their rolling block in it as well.
Primarily as target caliber it was popular in the eastern US for deer/black bear hunting. Similar in performance to a 40-65, it utilizes a shortened 45-70 case and full length resized. I'm using a 330 grain paper patched bullet with 45 grains of FFG. My rifle is a Shiloh Sharps 1874. Very low recoil and very accurate, not a barn burner but at 100 yards it won't stay in a deer on a quartering away shot. They are still being offered by Shiloh and C. Sharps. Not inexpensive but but extremely addicting.

Dman75
10-16-2022, 02:56 PM
My plan is to take my first deer using bullets I cast with open sights.

sloughfoot
10-16-2022, 05:38 PM
My plan is to take my first deer using bullets I cast with open sights.

What’s your caliber and bullet of choice