MGySgt
01-16-2006, 04:38 PM
Disclaimer - This is one test in one gun. Yours might very!
Dan, at MM, and I were conversing about Lubes and I wanted to try some Rooster Red to see if it would solve a leading problem in my Ruger. After I tried it and thought that it wasn't as good as Lyman Super Moly I decided to do the following Test.
Drew
Test Date – 1/16/06, Cloudy 45-55 degrees
Ruger SBH 4 5/8’s 44 Mag, Bowen Custom Classic rear sight.
All loads dumped with a Lyman 55 powder measure.
Starline Brass
16 gr 2400
CCI LP primer
285 grain plain base SWC Brass made by Mountain Molds
AC WW
Range 30 yards.
Rooter Red (RR) versus Lyman Super Moly (LSM)
30 rounds each were loaded, same dies, same lot of primers, same lot of 2400, same brass, same alloy, and same loading session. The powder measure was refilled to the same level for each set of 30 rounds. 5 charges were thrown before starting to charge the cases for each lot of ammo.
The barrel and cylinder were cleaned when changing from RR to LSM.
Groups were 5 rounds each shot over an Oehler 35P with 3 sky screens.
Same bench rest set up for both ‘Lots’ of ammo. Once the sand bags were placed on the bench they were not moved until all shooting was completed.
The chronograph was set up at the beginning and not moved until all shooting was completed.
All 30 rounds (6 groups of 5 rounds each) for both lots of ammo were shot on the same target. New target put up in as close to the same exact place as possible for the 2nd 30 rounds. RR was shot first.
All shooting was completed within 2 hours (couldn’t shoot any faster).
Each shot’s velocity was recorded and the Shot String’s Standard Deviation (SD), Extreme Spread (ES), High and Low velocity along with the Average velocity were recorded.
After the 2nd group of LSM I had problems seeing 6 o’clock and the groups starting rising in the target.
LSM had an overall higher velocity but RR had a lower ES and SD.
Both lubes leaded the last 1.5+ inches of the barrel. Upon cleaning the barrel it was noted RR had about twice the leading then LSM did. That was apparent by the amount of lead dust/specs on the cloth that was under the Ruger while cleaning it. I took pictures of both, but they are hard to see when I dropped the resolution so they are not posted below.
All Leading was removed before LSM was shot.
Rooster Red (RR)
Group 1 2 3 4 5 6 Avg
Shot 1, 1040, 1057, 1088, 1052, 1030, 1057, 1054
Shot 2, 1061, 1056, 1057, 1030, 1070, 1042, 1053
Shot 3, 1033, 1029, 1054, 1052, 1053, 1050, 1045
Shot 4, 1056, 1043, 1062, 1056, 1096, 1050, 1061
Shot 5, 1070, 1059, 1067, 1072, 1052, 1061, 1064
ES 37 30 34 42 66 19 38
SD 15 12 13 15 24 7 14
High, 1070, 1059, 1088, 1072, 1096, 1061, 1074
Low, 1033, 1029, 1054, 1030, 1030, 1042, 1036
Avg, 1052, 1048, 1065, 1052, 1060, 1052, 1055
Lyman Super Moly (LSM)
Group , 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, Avg
Shot 1, 1085, 1072, 1053, 1062, 1064, 1077, 1069
Shot 2, 1063, 1058, 1058, 1042, 1050, 1047, 1053
Shot 3, 1045, 1079, 1081, 1048, 1048, 1065, 1061
Shot 4, 1078, 1085, 1053, 1101, 1072, 1090, 1080
Shot 5, 1081, 1043, 1044, 1080, 1040, 1059, 1058
ES, 40, 42, 37, 59, 32, 43, 42
SD, 16, 16, 13, 24, 12, 16, 16
High, 1085, 1085, 1081, 1101, 1072, 1090, 1086
Low, 1045, 1043, 1044, 1042, 1040, 1047, 1044
Avg, 1070, 1067, 1057, 1066, 1054, 1067, 1064
RR, LSM
Shot 1, 1054, 1069
Shot 2, 1053, 1053
Shot 3, 1045, 1061
Shot 4, 1061, 1080
Shot 5, 1064, 1058
ES 38, 42
SD 14, 16
High, 1074, 1086
Low, 1036, 1044
Avg, 1055, 1064
Dan, at MM, and I were conversing about Lubes and I wanted to try some Rooster Red to see if it would solve a leading problem in my Ruger. After I tried it and thought that it wasn't as good as Lyman Super Moly I decided to do the following Test.
Drew
Test Date – 1/16/06, Cloudy 45-55 degrees
Ruger SBH 4 5/8’s 44 Mag, Bowen Custom Classic rear sight.
All loads dumped with a Lyman 55 powder measure.
Starline Brass
16 gr 2400
CCI LP primer
285 grain plain base SWC Brass made by Mountain Molds
AC WW
Range 30 yards.
Rooter Red (RR) versus Lyman Super Moly (LSM)
30 rounds each were loaded, same dies, same lot of primers, same lot of 2400, same brass, same alloy, and same loading session. The powder measure was refilled to the same level for each set of 30 rounds. 5 charges were thrown before starting to charge the cases for each lot of ammo.
The barrel and cylinder were cleaned when changing from RR to LSM.
Groups were 5 rounds each shot over an Oehler 35P with 3 sky screens.
Same bench rest set up for both ‘Lots’ of ammo. Once the sand bags were placed on the bench they were not moved until all shooting was completed.
The chronograph was set up at the beginning and not moved until all shooting was completed.
All 30 rounds (6 groups of 5 rounds each) for both lots of ammo were shot on the same target. New target put up in as close to the same exact place as possible for the 2nd 30 rounds. RR was shot first.
All shooting was completed within 2 hours (couldn’t shoot any faster).
Each shot’s velocity was recorded and the Shot String’s Standard Deviation (SD), Extreme Spread (ES), High and Low velocity along with the Average velocity were recorded.
After the 2nd group of LSM I had problems seeing 6 o’clock and the groups starting rising in the target.
LSM had an overall higher velocity but RR had a lower ES and SD.
Both lubes leaded the last 1.5+ inches of the barrel. Upon cleaning the barrel it was noted RR had about twice the leading then LSM did. That was apparent by the amount of lead dust/specs on the cloth that was under the Ruger while cleaning it. I took pictures of both, but they are hard to see when I dropped the resolution so they are not posted below.
All Leading was removed before LSM was shot.
Rooster Red (RR)
Group 1 2 3 4 5 6 Avg
Shot 1, 1040, 1057, 1088, 1052, 1030, 1057, 1054
Shot 2, 1061, 1056, 1057, 1030, 1070, 1042, 1053
Shot 3, 1033, 1029, 1054, 1052, 1053, 1050, 1045
Shot 4, 1056, 1043, 1062, 1056, 1096, 1050, 1061
Shot 5, 1070, 1059, 1067, 1072, 1052, 1061, 1064
ES 37 30 34 42 66 19 38
SD 15 12 13 15 24 7 14
High, 1070, 1059, 1088, 1072, 1096, 1061, 1074
Low, 1033, 1029, 1054, 1030, 1030, 1042, 1036
Avg, 1052, 1048, 1065, 1052, 1060, 1052, 1055
Lyman Super Moly (LSM)
Group , 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, Avg
Shot 1, 1085, 1072, 1053, 1062, 1064, 1077, 1069
Shot 2, 1063, 1058, 1058, 1042, 1050, 1047, 1053
Shot 3, 1045, 1079, 1081, 1048, 1048, 1065, 1061
Shot 4, 1078, 1085, 1053, 1101, 1072, 1090, 1080
Shot 5, 1081, 1043, 1044, 1080, 1040, 1059, 1058
ES, 40, 42, 37, 59, 32, 43, 42
SD, 16, 16, 13, 24, 12, 16, 16
High, 1085, 1085, 1081, 1101, 1072, 1090, 1086
Low, 1045, 1043, 1044, 1042, 1040, 1047, 1044
Avg, 1070, 1067, 1057, 1066, 1054, 1067, 1064
RR, LSM
Shot 1, 1054, 1069
Shot 2, 1053, 1053
Shot 3, 1045, 1061
Shot 4, 1061, 1080
Shot 5, 1064, 1058
ES 38, 42
SD 14, 16
High, 1074, 1086
Low, 1036, 1044
Avg, 1055, 1064