Well good, found myself a 35 Remington

[rickt300]

A marlin with JC Higgins model 45 on the barrel. Not Microgroove and pretty clean mostly.Picking it up tomorrow so will get a closer look at it then. I guess I will use the 182 grain NOE mold I picked up a while back and probably load it to 1900 fps for my grandson to use this year. What is the best powder for this speed in the 20 inch barrel? Blue Dot?

[ChristopherO]

Good for you. Always fun to acquire something we've had our eye on for a while. Would that NOE 182 Happen to be this one with the WFN GC?
304653

If so that is a dandy out of my 35 Whelen. From testing with soft range scrap, powder coated, being pushed from 1,850 up to 2,000 fps it should be a very good deer killer. Be sure to keep us updated with your Grandson's success.

[versa-06]

Congrats on the new shoot'n iron. Hope your grandson much success & joy.

[rickt300]

Good for you. Always fun to acquire something we've had our eye on for a while. Would that NOE 182 Happen to be this one with the WFN GC?
304653

If so that is a dandy out of my 35 Whelen. From testing with soft range scrap, powder coated, being pushed from 1,850 up to 2,000 fps it should be a very good deer killer. Be sure to keep us updated with your Grandson's success.

Yep that is the one, works great in my 350 Legend so far. Plan on loading it in my 357 Maximum also.

[rickt300]

Congrats on the new shoot'n iron. Hope your grandson much success & joy.


Anything that gets him out of the screen is a success in my book. Ought to outlaw smart phones.

[imashooter2]

That boolit wouldn't chamber in my Marlin. The throat is too short for the full diameter body in front of the crimp groove. The NOE mold designed for the .35 REM is the 359-191-RF “Ranch Dog.” I hope your rifle works with it, but I recommend making up a couple dummies first.

ETA: it worked great in revolvers and my 1894 though.

[pworley1]

If that bullet doesn't work out for you the Lyman 348315 and the Lee 358-200 work well in mine.

[Tripplebeards]

I use a max load of 40 grains of varget in mine with a 200 grain cast HP. My avatar is group i shot with it. Average MV is 2087 fps( I call it 2100 fps) out of my 336 with a 20” barrel. Drops 9” at 200 yards when zeroed at 100 yards. I use 50/50 COWW and pure lead with 2% pewter added in. It’s Thor’s hammer on whitetail with the load.

Here’s the boolit I use…

https://i.imgur.com/jtlLm7o.jpg

My microgroove barrel slugs at .357 and I size at .3595.

Here is a link on the post I did …

https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?414159-Finally-shot-a-deer-with-my-Marlin-336-and-our-200-grain-HP-group-buy!

Starting loads with varget should get you to the velocities you ask about but top end loads had the best accuracy with my alloy choice.

I tried the 200 grain lees with the same alloy but didn’t get anywhere near the accuracy of this HP. Still have a bunch of lee’s PCd and GCd ready to go. I’d do some trading for Jacked projectiles if you have any?

[Rapier]

First thing is you do not want to use a roll crimp or any crimp that alters the diameter of the bearing surface. Suggest you use a taper crimp on a cast bullet. You will need to bell the case mouth slightly. Then seat as a seperate step, and just bring the case mouth back to straight with the taper crimp, that will improve accuracy.

[rickt300]

I use a max load of 40 grains of varget in mine with a 200 grain cast HP. My avatar is group i shot with it. Average MV is 2087 fps( I call it 2100 fps) out of my 336 with a 20” barrel. Drops 9” at 200 yards when zeroed at 100 yards. I use 50/50 COWW and pure lead with 2% pewter added in. It’s Thor’s hammer on whitetail with the load.

Here’s the boolit I use…

https://i.imgur.com/jtlLm7o.jpg

My microgroove barrel slugs at .357 and I size at .3595.

Here is a link on the post I did …

https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?414159-Finally-shot-a-deer-with-my-Marlin-336-and-our-200-grain-HP-group-buy!

Starting loads with varget should get you to the velocities you ask about but top end loads had the best accuracy with my alloy choice.

I tried the 200 grain lees with the same alloy but didn’t get anywhere near the accuracy of this HP. Still have a bunch of lee’s PCd and GCd ready to go. I’d do some trading for Jacked projectiles if you have any?

The only jacketed bullets I have even remotely suitable for a 35 Remington are 180 gr. XTP's. Is that HP from an MP mold?

[rickt300]

That boolit wouldn't chamber in my Marlin. The throat is too short for the full diameter body in front of the crimp groove. The NOE mold designed for the .35 REM is the 359-191-RF “Ranch Dog.” I hope your rifle works with it, but I recommend making up a couple dummies first.

ETA: it worked great in revolvers and my 1894 though.

This rifle isn't microgroove so hopefully it will have some freebore. On the other hand if it doesn't work I get to go mold shopping. Thinking 36-200AS

[rickt300]

Well it looks nicer in person than it did in the pictures. 1961 model with on very light scratch on the barrel and a bit of light bluing on the tangs from being carried some, not a lot. Stock has one light dent and appears to be walnut and it has a thin rubber recoil pad on it. Bore is excellent. It came with a large Simmons Aetec scope on it, a firesight front and a later model rear sight. So it should be an excellent candidate for cast bullet testing. It did come with 60 rounds of Federal 200 grain factory ammo and 16 rounds of Hornady Flextip ammo. I will have to shoot some of it up for brass.

[imashooter2]

This rifle isn't microgroove so hopefully it will have some freebore. On the other hand if it doesn't work I get to go mold shopping. Thinking 36-200AS

Mine is a 1951 vintage waffle top. No microgroove on that one. When I got it, I tried every pistol boolit in my inventory… then I went out and bought the RCBS 35-200-FN.

[imashooter2]

Regardless of the mold you wind up with, it sounds like a terrific pick up. Congratulations! I wish you much success with it!

[eastbank]

my 35 remington is a 141 pump made in 1940 in ex condition, i have never tried cast in it as i shoot
factory rem core-loc 200 gr bullets(have 5 boxs) and it cuts bullets at 85 yards from a bench with them. i would like to try a bullet like thoses purple gas checked to see how they do.

[Tripplebeards]

Yes, it was a group buy MP mold. Make sure to order a lee collet factory crimp die I’d you don’t have one. Imo it’s a must for tight groups. There is still a current post on the reviews of the mold.

[Jim22]

my 35 remington is a 141 pump made in 1940 in ex condition, i have never tried cast in it as i shoot
factory rem core-loc 200 gr bullets(have 5 boxs) and it cuts bullets at 85 yards from a bench with them. i would like to try a bullet like thoses purple gas checked to see how they do.

Brian Pearce has a nice writeup in the recenyt Handloader magazine using a pair of pumps: a mocel 14 and a model 141.

Jim

[Tripplebeards]

My buddy’s dad has a 141. I have a 7600 limited run carbine chambered in 35 Rem (and one in 35 whelen) I ordered in 2004’…we drool at each other’s toys!

[Pereira]

Nice pick up it sounds like, I too have a JC Higgins in 35 Rem., mine from 1960.
Also have a mid 70's 336 that I chopped back to 16.5".
Both shoot the Lee 200 gr very well I use IMR 4198 and/or 3031,
the later seems to group a fair bit tighter.
Also have a Savage mod. 170 with a 22" barrel but I've not shot any cast through as of yet.

RP

[rickt300]

Well I went and did the4 odious task of shooting 5 rounds of Hornady rubber tipped factory ammo. Actually shot great but my front sight was too short. Hit 6 inches high at 50 yards. Ordered taller front sight from Marbles to match the Williams 5D peep I put on it. Going to play with the 5 empties using Unique and the 200 gr. LEE.

[rickt300]

Decided to load up with 33.0 grains of AA2520 under the LEE 200 gr. Bullet powder coated. Oops forgot they were sized .356 for my legend and were somewhat loose. I Lee factory crimp die crimped em anyway. Well they all went off, hit high just like the factory load. Didn't expect much for accuracy so didn't try. Barrel stayed clean, Brass stayed clean. Actually one of the factory rounds split the case neck, not impressed with Hornady brass presently/

[rickt300]

Anyone know for sure if this bullet will function in 35 Remington Marlin?

https://www.mp-molds.com/bullet-casting-equipment/page/2/?pa_caliber=360

https://i.postimg.cc/MT1VN5xx/Screenshot-2022-09-22-at-15-26-54-Shop.png (https://postimages.org/)

[imashooter2]

It is my understanding that the Hornady brass from the rubber tipped Lever Evolution line is actually shorter than SAAMI spec.

I know this one will work…
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1010267664?pid=319002

[Good Cheer]

Anyone know for sure if this bullet will function in 35 Remington Marlin?

https://www.mp-molds.com/bullet-casting-equipment/page/2/?pa_caliber=360

https://i.postimg.cc/MT1VN5xx/Screenshot-2022-09-22-at-15-26-54-Shop.png (https://postimages.org/)

Dang it. Too bad they don't put dimensions in their advertisements.

[ElCheapo]

That boolit wouldn't chamber in my Marlin. The throat is too short for the full diameter body in front of the crimp groove. The NOE mold designed for the .35 REM is the 359-191-RF “Ranch Dog.” I hope your rifle works with it, but I recommend making up a couple dummies first.

ETA: it worked great in revolvers and my 1894 though.

All you need to do is seat the bullet deeper in the case. Then maybe trim the brass and work up to your optimum load. I had to do this in my 30-30 Marlin with the Lyman 311041. I simply seated the bullet deeper until it chambered without issue, then worked up a load. No problem!

[cwlongshot]

Anyone know for sure if this bullet will function in 35 Remington Marlin?

https://www.mp-molds.com/bullet-casting-equipment/page/2/?pa_caliber=360

https://i.postimg.cc/MT1VN5xx/Screenshot-2022-09-22-at-15-26-54-Shop.png (https://postimages.org/)

Measuring my dummy I have 2.490 OAL. (MP 359/220)

A Hornady 200g is 2.495 OAL....

CW

[rickt300]

Going to size then .358 for the first few but as soon as I can polish the LEE size die out some I will. Definitely want to powder coat.

[cwlongshot]

.358 is fattest you have?

I usually size all mine .360

CW

[imashooter2]

All you need to do is seat the bullet deeper in the case. Then maybe trim the brass and work up to your optimum load. I had to do this in my 30-30 Marlin with the Lyman 311041. I simply seated the bullet deeper until it chambered without issue, then worked up a load. No problem!

All you need to do is seat the boolit over the ogive or screw up near irreplaceable brass. Thanks for the advice. I bought the right mold instead.

[Good Cheer]

January of 2017 was working up a design to fit my 1953 bore diameter and the distance from the case mouth to rifling. Bumped into molds from Lyman / Ideal, Saeco, Lee and RCBS instead but DIY is a lot of fun and getting this one made would have been purely enjoying the hobby.
https://i.imgur.com/LpMCMaE.jpg

[rickt300]

.358 is fattest you have?

I usually size all mine .360

CW

Yep all I could find in the LEE push throughs. Planned on polishing it out.

[rickt300]

The mold arrived but I had no handles, ordered a 6 hole LEE mold thinking it would come with handles but nope. Ordered handles and they should be here soon, the 18th. Then I will see how it goes. The 6 hole mold is for the 200 grain flat nose so I am covered regardless.

[MT Gianni]

I like 4895 in my 1951 Marlin. I have mainly shot the heavies, RCBS 200 and Saeco 352.

[pworley1]

All my 35 Remingtons work well with the Lee 358200

[Good Cheer]

I like 4895 in my 1951 Marlin. I have mainly shot the heavies, RCBS 200 and Saeco 352.

I've got that Saeco 352 mold. How is it shooting for you?

[wolfdog]

I shoot the RCBS 35-200 and it functions flawlessly. I'm getting 1900fps, and it's casting at 215grns. I shoot a max charge of *edited for powder correction to benchmark* and tumble lube with LLA, nothing fancy, and have dropped several deer over the years with this load/bullet. Fits right at the base of the case neck and no need to trim brass short or worry about correct feeding. It's available on midway now for about 130, and IMHO is well worth it, I think lee makes a clone but am not sure enough to recommend it.
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=35-200
306811
306813
306812

[rickt300]

Well it cooled off a bit today and I spent several hours casting out in the garage today. I cast some 200 LEE .358 200 grain flat noses and 60 or so LEE .452 255 gr. RF's. Easy as Pie too that 6 hole 200 grain mold got going and didn't throw a bad bullet after the first 3 tosses. I also powder coated some previously cast MP 220 grain bullets, gas checked them and ran them through my supposedly .358 LEE sizer and pleasantly found they were coming out at .3595. Outstanding. Tomorrow going to get back on the MP mold and start running all four holes as hollow points and my NOE mold casting with the cup point pin set. So sitting here thinking about using some AA2520 to push the MP bullet near 2000fps or so. Might be a jug test pretty soon but it is going to get real cold and rainy here for a couple days.

[rickt300]

I shoot the RCBS 35-200 and it functions flawlessly. I'm getting 1900fps, and it's casting at 215grns. I shoot a max charge of bullseye and tumble lube with LLA, nothing fancy, and have dropped several deer over the years with this load/bullet. Fits right at the base of the case neck and no need to trim brass short or worry about correct feeding. It's available on midway now for about 130, and IMHO is well worth it, I think lee makes a clone but am not sure enough to recommend it.
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?searchTerm=35-200
306811
306813
306812

I don't have any Bullseye, 1900fps seems a lot for that powder. Going to fool with Imr 4227 now that I have some. Plus several slower powders until I get what I want. Most times I pick a powder I have a lot of.

[rickt300]

Update on the load workup. I arbitrarily started with 34.0 grains if AA2520 because I figured this would give me around 1850 fps. This under the 220gr MP mold which throws flat nosed bullets at 218 grains powder coated and gas checked. The hollow pointed bullets come out at 210 grains coated and gas checked. Accuracy is excellent with either bullet, got them hitting on top of the front sight at 50 yards. Now for the jug test. Shot at 50 yards through 4 1 gallon milk jugs it destroyed the first three splitting them asunder, the fourth just got a hole through both sides and the bullet ended up stuck in the plywood backing. Alloy is 3/4 very soft lead and 1/4 wheelweights. Might be over driving it but I bet it is destructive, this is the Hollowpointed bullet. No barrel leading, in fact it seems to have really put a shine to the inside of the barrel in 20 rounds. The big piece weighs 86 grains. the little pieces were all I could find as the jugs were slung around on impact.

https://i.postimg.cc/sDVLzmRq/IMG-20221113-125246-119.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XXzLcwqk)

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[rickt300]

On shooting this load, it bucks pretty good in the Marlin. Might be getting more than the estimated 1850 fps. I used the LEE factory crimp die and overall length is 2.485, it feeds perfectly. Of the several two shot groups fired in sighting in the Iron sights I got a couple with the two shots touching so I am happy my old eyes can still see well enough to touch bullet holes at 50 yards.

[rickt300]

Tomorrow going to jug test the flat nosed version. 5 jugs is all I have, hope the 5th catches it. I also shortened a base so I could mount a scope and retain the peep sight. Want to do some more precise load testing and a scope will make it much easier to pick the best load.

[rickt300]

OK put a Leupold 2x7 on it and accuracy tested both the HP and the flat nosed versions. Couldn't be happier. Sighted in with 7 shots, easy better than 1.5 inches for 3 shots. Did the flat nosed bullet jug test. This time at 100 yards. First jug was split in half horizontally and the top half of the jug went airborne,jug two had a huge hole in the front side and was split, jug three had a pretty good sized hole and was split, jug four had a hole through it and the bullet just missed jug 5 went through the backboard and into the dirt. Found two chunks of lead in the third jug not very big chunks. So tomorrow I am going to the lease, maybe even tonight if things go smoothly.

[Tripplebeards]

That’s what I put on mine after my initial testing VX one 2 x 7. Go smash a deer and report back! If you’re using that hollowpoint at 1850 fps I’m sure it will probably drop a deer on the spot or within a couple of feet.

[rickt300]

Just guessing at the 1850 fps but seems a bit faster than that. Going to use the hollow point hopefully soon.

[Tripplebeards]

I chronographed my 40 grain varget load with a 200 grain cast HP and it averaged 2087 ft./s. Zero than 100 it drops 9 inches low at 200 just like the factory Remington jacked ballistic table shows. Zero it out 100 and shoot it at 200 and measure a three shot group and see how far down it dropped and that’ll give me an idea of how fast it is or isn’t. I use my Nikon ballistic Plex program and plug-in velocities to give me an idea of how fast it is or isn’t going if I’m not using my chronograph by the drops.

[rickt300]

Might do that after deer season. The property where I will use this rifle is either open huge fields or narrow hardwood bottoms which is where the acorns are. 100 yards would be further that I can see in the trees so good. After deer season some of my hog hunting is in a huge hardwood bottom area off a river. Probably use my 7-08 there though. The other place I hunt hogs is a swamp where there are cartridge restrictions, why I worked on the AR in 350 Legend. Next shooting project is sighting it in with 200 gr. flat noses cast from a LEE mold. That thing is so much fun to shoot you need a 6 hole mold to keep up with it.

[iron brigade]

Last year I was doing the same thing. Bought a 1950 waffle top rifle in 35 Remington.
Imashooter sent me up several hundred boolits to try and although I have the lee six cavity mold I will be using the rcbs 200 grain with RL7 powder. Accuracy has been very good at both 50 and 100 yards.

Last year I had started a thread and will update it if successful. Opening weekend on the 19th. Going to be cold out there.
Planning on working with the lee boolit more next year and am curious to see how your testing works out.

[No_1]

Not sure how the thread got closed but it’s open again!

BTW, one of my favorite cartridges. I have a 336, a Model 14 and another slide action from my fathers gear all in .35 Remington.

[rickt300]

I have had 3, one a Contender 14 inch barreled pistol, more than I like in a pistol for sure. Well I worked up a bit from 34.0 grains to 38.0 grains of AA2520 still being one grain under max in the book. I did this with some of the 200 grain LEE bullets I cast the other day. The powder coating on this batch used Harbor Freight red and coverage was thin and spotty on the noses, the bands well covered. Gas checked of course. Shot great but 2.5 inches higher than the 34.0 load with the same powder. Barrel clean as you could ask for. I can only thank this forum for getting me into powder coating. I rarely ever went past the minimum loads in my past cast bullet days using lube and load development seems much simpler with the powder coating. Starting tomorrow I will be able to hunt either the morning or the evening so a bullet test may soon be in the offing that includes a deer.

[imashooter2]

Last year I was doing the same thing. Bought a 1950 waffle top rifle in 35 Remington.
Imashooter sent me up several hundred boolits to try and although I have the lee six cavity mold I will be using the rcbs 200 grain with RL7 powder. Accuracy has been very good at both 50 and 100 yards.

Last year I had started a thread and will update it if successful. Opening weekend on the 19th. Going to be cold out there.
Planning on working with the lee boolit more next year and am curious to see how your testing works out.

The RCBS 35-200-FN and RL7 are hard to improve on. :-)

[ChristopherO]

I am looking forward to your field report and photos of the successful hunt. Thanks for keeping this ongoing. It has been a great thread so far. All the pictures of the 35 Remington has me wanting to hunt with one in the worst way. In this state we can hunt with straight wall cartridge rifles only, which I understand for population density/safety reasons, but the velocities you are working with are matched easily by the 350 Legend, which is legal. I load the 35 Whelen to the same but cannot hunt with it, either. O to be able to enjoy these rifles in 35 caliber. What am I complaining about, the Marlin 1895 CB in 45/70 does a fine job, but the drop at 200 yards is considerable compared to these fine boolits you gentlemen are enjoying. The affliction continues, I suppose. LOL.

[rickt300]

Well I went out last night to find the deer were feeding way out in the farm fields on some kind of ground cover the farmer had planted that was just coming up. To day I tried to test the 38 grain load to sight in for it and accidentally used some of the bullets I have sized for my 350 legend. Well what I found out was .356 bullets in my barrel will just barely stay on a paper plate at 100 yards. But it is sighted in dead on at 100 now again with the mild 34 grain load. Tomorrow morning will find me with two rifles in the blind, a 270 and the 35 Remington.

[GooseGestapo]

I’ve used the same RCBS bullet over H4895 and BLC2. 34.5gr of H4895 drives the 218gr gas checked bullet 1,950fps. I’ve killed one deer with it. Performance was indistinguishable from a 200gr Corlokts. 39.0gr of BLC2 runs 2,050fps, and is just as if not more accurate than 34.5 of H4895. Both are 1.5MOA.

I sight in +3” at 100yds. Zero at 150, down 5” at 200yds.
My limit with this gun/ammo. But will accommodate 98% of the deer, 100% of pigs and elk I’ve shot over my 50yr hunting career.
Why do I use/have anything else???

[rickt300]

I have a bunch of AA2520 and it seems to perform very well. I decided to hunt with the 34 grain load but did get to shooting some properly sized bullets on top of the 38 grain load. They hit two inches higher than the lighter load and are just as accurate. Might use one if I get a long shot out in the field.

[wolfdog]

I don't have any Bullseye, 1900fps seems a lot for that powder. Going to fool with Imr 4227 now that I have some. Plus several slower powders until I get what I want. Most times I pick a powder I have a lot of.

I am so sorry, I don't know what I was thinking, this is why one should never follow internet load data without double checking...benchmark.... Not sure why I typed bullseye...