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RogerDat
08-12-2022, 01:24 PM
I have a chance to purchase a long desired 1911 period 45 ACP from a private party. In this state that means getting a pistol permit from sheriffs office. While there I noted a box for number of permits and because my wife let me go unchaperoned I put a "2" in that box.

Couple of items vying for that second permit. One is a .22 LR revolver and I like Ruger being familiar with the GP and SP and Vaquero.

Since this is intended as a plinker and a way to insure I don't die with a bunch of Y2K .22 LR ammo to be disposed of... Price matters. I'm not buying for a legacy to pass on. Wife likes .22 rifle and would probably enjoy a 22 pistol if it wasn't too heavy. Normal for her is a .38 snub nose but the .22 having less recoil would be more enjoyable.

Myself I have many fond memories of 22's and abandoned gravel pit outside of town back when riding a bike with gun case wasn't likely to find one talkin to a whole passel of law enforcement responding to frantic 911 calls.

So opinions on the...

Wrangler - can easily afford new in this as they are generally under $200. Looked nice when I saw at gun show.
Bearcat - would need to find in used to afford adding that to my budget.
Single Six - new model Again would need to find used to get to my price point.
SP or GP - would have to be used and even then... also .22 LR is not a common caliber as these are beefy pistols.


I am also considering the Ruger Mk4 but not a wheel gun. Still if one with experience with both the .22 wheel guns mentioned and the Mk 4 wants to weigh in with the comparative merits I'll be interested in how they compare.

At one time in my youth I owned one of the early Ruger semi-auto target pistols so have a certain fondness for them but that 45 ACP is going to be lonely looking for other auto loaders in the safe. Guess I watched more westerns and cop dramas growing up where the good guys used revolvers. The 1911 makes it in on WW2 movies and Rat Patrol. Pretty sure that is it because I'm sure not interested in the current Barretta 9mm in use by our military today.

Just looking to punch some paper myself and with family and friends while not punch a hole in the household budget. I also feel that it is important that cans going to recycling need to learn to fear me once in a while. The .22 is perfect for such lofty goals.

I should add while I can see wisdom of used quality for $600 over lesser quality item for $300 in the long term I'm equally sure my dear wife who shares in the budget impact of my purchases can see the difference in bank balance as simple math which is not easily argued with. If the answer isn't this one is going to hit twice as many bullseyes I don't have a whole lot of "ammo" in that discussion. She has seen me shoot so any gun I claim will have me hitting twice as many bullseyes is going to be greeted with extreme skepticism. Note I said cans should fear me, not that they all die quick deaths on the berm. I'm pretty sure they fear near misses, right?

All that said a better pistol is a better pistol and the price range is running $200 to $600 with several in the $400 - $500 and I can see going from $200 to $400 for a clearly better quality item. I did note that resale while not a huge factor it does speak to the perceived quality or value of the item. Oddly Wrangler doesn't lose much, of course not much room to drop either. Some on the other hand drop 1/3 from new to used 80% condition.

Texas by God
08-12-2022, 01:45 PM
The Wrangler is the best $200 .22 handgun out there in my opinion.

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Buzz Krumhunger
08-12-2022, 01:53 PM
Agree.

Cargo
08-12-2022, 02:10 PM
Ok here goes...

Son #1 has a Wrangler, Ruger Super Six and an old HS Double 9, wife has a S&W M&P 22c, Son #2 has MK4 22/45 Target ( lnib $275 @ PS) and I have a MK 4 22/45 lite.

Consensus of the group is the M&P 22c is the favorite for plinking and as a trainer for the S&W Shield with the MK4 22/45 lite coming in a close second. I placed them opposite with the 22/45 lite at #1 and the M&P 22c at #2. I give the accuracy edge to the 22/45 but the S&W is small and light enough for a purse. My wife has carried hers a few times.

If I were to buy a single action for myself it would be the Bearcat. I shot one a long time ago and it was a lot of fun. The Wrangler is a fun gun for $200 but you could step up your choices for $100-200 more.

dverna
08-12-2022, 04:07 PM
I have a .22 Single Six and like it. Also, a Mk III Target and like it too.

One advantage of the semi-auto is I can easily (and have) mount a red dot sight and that helps as eyes age.

tward
08-12-2022, 04:13 PM
I bought a Bearcat at auction a couple of years ago, it was a little beat up so I sent it to Ruger. They looked it over and said it wasn’t safe! BIG DISSAPOINTMENT!!, until they said they would replace it with a new one!
The Bearcat is a great little revolver, if you have smaller hands it’s a nice fit. It takes some practice to shoot it well because of its size. They are very solid but very expensive! I believe they will last several lifetimes. I have a Heritage Arms that I bought for $100 that shoots very well but doesn’t give the satisfaction that the Ruger does. The Wrangler is probably a Best Buy , and any problems, Ruger customer service is second to none.!
Good luck and good shooting whatever your choice!
Tim

Outpost75
08-12-2022, 04:22 PM
I like my Wrangler. Had to cut down front sight to correct elevation, but windage dead on. Shoots consistent 2-inch groups at 25 yards off bags with CCI Blazer and Mini Mag. I took feeler gages to the LGS and picked one with B-C gap of pass 0.005" and hold 0.006". Don't buy one over 0.008". I am Very satisfied.

Mk42gunner
08-12-2022, 04:54 PM
If fixed sights don't bother you for a plinker, the Wrangler should be a decent buy. I have never shot one, nor even held one in my hands though.

Bearcats are cute, spendy, and would make a great trail gun.

The New Model Single Six is in my opinion, more gun than needed for a .22. I think they are best in the .32 H&R.

If you really want a single action .22 for plinking, the Colt New Frontier was about right size wise. It is just enough smaller than the Ruger Single Six that it is noticeable. But it is spendy, if you can find one these days.

Robert

trapper9260
08-12-2022, 05:07 PM
I have a single six that I use on the trap line for many years and happy with it , it is one that came with the mag cylinder. If I do not want to load it all the 6 rounds just turn the cylinder 4 clicks and then put a round in and then when pull the hammer back and then I get the one shot I wanted . I like rugers also . I have there BH and SP 101 in 357 mag and 327 mag.

poppy42
08-12-2022, 05:12 PM
Well here goes. About 6 or 7 years ago I was looking for a single action 22 revolver with the intention of teaching my granddaughters to shoot and general plinking. Had my eye on A Ruger convertible six. Everyplace I looked local they were going for $600+. The Wrangler hadn’t come out yet. I wound up picking up a heritage arms single action 22 with the interchangeable 22 mag cylinder for $110 bucks on a Black Friday special. ( Believe it or not it was at Dick’s before they went woke). It’s more than adequate for what I use it for but had the Wrangler been available, hands down I would’ve bought the Wrangler! Even though there’s no option for 22 mag with the Wrangler. If all you’re looking for is a single action revolver to shoot 22 long rifle at a really good price point I would go with the Wrangler. If the option of being able to shoot 22 mag appeals to you take a look at the Heritage homes it’s not a Ruger but mines never given me a lick of problems. I don’t know what they go for now but if The darn thing falls apart oh well I’m out 100 bucks.

Gtek
08-12-2022, 05:36 PM
Being very familiar with all of them and in the end it really falls to your needs and wants. My Wrangler was close and needed a file and bend but she hits now, the .011" barrel to cylinder creates much disgust but am going to fix. The 22/45's have a lot going for them in terms of capacity, ease of loading, a world of aftermarket, and the options of one purchased with expandable sighting choices (red dots) and screwing something on front end. The old classics are very cool and have a niche but they are not cheap. A Romeo 5 and a can with ten round mags in a MK something creates a smirking situation minimally!

contender1
08-12-2022, 08:26 PM
I too have a long history of familiarity with the Rugers mentioned.
The Wrangler,, in-expensive & fun to enjoy. Around $200.
The Single-Six, a cut above for sure & will outlive you. Around $400.
The Bearcat,, while enjoyable,, it was designed as a "pocket" gun for fishermen & other woods bumming. Around $450
The SP-101, an excellent DA handgun,, but pricey in general. Around $450-$500
The GP-100, another excellent gun,, but many feel too heavy. Around $500.
And lastly,, the MK series of semi-autos. For the money,,the best buy. Very accurate in general,, and LOTS of options for any upgrades or modifications you may desire. Getting one of the 22/45's will be a good companion to the 1911 you are getting. Depending upon the model & such,, you can get one for $300 to $500. Most of us Ruger fans prefer the MKII series or the MKIV series. This gun is the anchor for the company.
BTW; My experience comes from actually using all of these guns extensively. My daily gun is a MKII Competition Target model.
But if I were to select a revolver,, I'd opt for the Single-Six with adjustable sights.

tobywan45
08-12-2022, 08:26 PM
So I at present have 5 single action 22 long rifle revolvers an H&R I've had for close to 35 years ,. 3 Heritage in different sizes and a Wrangler.
Personally I think the Wrangler is a more comfortable handling revolver than the others.
My Wife and Grandchildren prefer the Wrangler also and it's the only one that isn't a 22 mag.converatable.

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Goldstar225
08-12-2022, 08:50 PM
A lot depends on your budget as it does for many of us.

I do not own one but have handled a wrangler and the feedback on them has been good. I'm condidering buying one for my grandson as a gift.

The single six IMO is a step up in both quality and price. On gun broker they are running $350-$500 used in good condition (completed sales). I bought a pristine 4 5/8" convertible for my wife about two months ago off of GB for $505. We are both very happy with it.

I have a S&W M&P 22 compact (semi-auto) that I use as an understudy to my 9mm shield. Light, accurate and reliable. While I enjoy shooting it I enjoy shooting my wifes single six or my K22 more.

oldhenry
08-12-2022, 09:05 PM
I have a Wrangler & a MKII (it's a 5.25 heavy taper model that is scarce) . I would not want to part with either one. If push came to shove, I'd reluctantly let the Wrangler go.

Bigslug
08-12-2022, 09:21 PM
The 4.2" SP-101 would be my instant "go to" even at full pop.

Smaller grip to teach those with smaller hands.

DA trigger to teach not only combat revolvery, but also to really help cement the lessons of maintaining sight alignment during trigger press.

Built like a tank, but smooths up VERY nicely with use.

It's basically the modern equivalent of the S&W 63 - a truly great thing to have around.

Daekar
08-12-2022, 11:26 PM
The 4.2" SP-101 would be my instant "go to" even at full pop.

Smaller grip to teach those with smaller hands.

DA trigger to teach not only combat revolvery, but also to really help cement the lessons of maintaining sight alignment during trigger press.

Built like a tank, but smooths up VERY nicely with use.

It's basically the modern equivalent of the S&W 63 - a truly great thing to have around.

This. If you're wanting a Ruger, buy this:
https://ruger.com/products/sp101/specSheets/5765.html

I have a S&W 63 with the 3" barrel and adjustable sights and it's a wonderful pistol, I would prefer to shoot it over my wife's MKIII Hunter.

RJM52
08-13-2022, 07:19 AM
Lots of great choices....

Two I would not go for are the DA GP100/SP101 .22s...trigger pulls are less than desirable and are built like bricks. The LCRX 3" is a nice little plinkier but again the DA pull is very hard for kids and women...

Shot a friend's Birdshead Wrangler and it was a nicely balanced gun...have handled but never shot any of the 4 5/8" models...

And another vote for the MKIII or MKIV 22/45 LITE. Have had one of the MKIIs with the fluted shroud and it has been excellent. I like the looks of it over the MKIV but some people just love that the MKIV is easier to clean.

My choice would be one of the 22/45s....Bob

tja6435
08-13-2022, 11:42 AM
I like my Wrangler but also have had a MKII Gov’t Target for over 20 years now. I shoot the Wrangler more currently but I’ve put cases of ammo through that MKII and that MKII has taught tons of people how to shoot a handgun

Jtarm
08-13-2022, 11:55 AM
Bearcat all the way.

RogerDat
08-13-2022, 10:50 PM
Lots of good feedback! While the GP is not really in the running for a .22 plinker with an msrp of close to $1000 it is one I highly regard in 357 mag.

Good tip on taking some feeler gauges to check barrel to cylinder. Knowing what to look for or look out for can really help with getting a good deal and not just a good price.

The bearcat seems to me offers the adjustable sights, is still affordable at around 2x the price of the wrangler price is competitive with the MK IV or others in that series.

Good point about the Mk accepting sights that are a better fit for mature vision. Price wise not bad and it sounds like good value for that price.

I had not considered the .22 LR only vs. the 22 mag and 22 LR cylinders. Any suggestions on those might be of interest. Not sure why I didn't think of it but a 22 mag option could be nice.

I would say I should buy them all, yeah! But I do not want to have a collection of seldom used firearms. One Queen in the house, none in the safe. Although I'm really thinking if I get the revolver one of these years I will talk myself into a Mark IV or related semi auto in .22 Or as a couple of people pointed out see a discount brand one and latch onto that for one of the few cheap thrills I'm still allowed to indulge in these days.

I'm not really sure why I put this off so long. Seems like there was always something else more pressing to spend money on. I guess I finally figured out amortized over a few years the cost per year or range trip to have some fun is pretty low. And yes I still have Y2K ammo. Marlin Papoose was my usual camp gun in .22 and because that round is a most excellent survival hunting round it had ammo stocked up on going toward Y2K not massive amounts but way more than I have shot since then.

winelover
08-14-2022, 07:59 AM
I was in a similar predicament. Had plenty of 22 LR ammo, accumulated over the years. Was wanting a DA revolver, as a change of pace, from my Mark II Target. However, couldn't justify that kind of money for a 22 revolver, that one could get in a centerfire chambering. The least expensive was the LCRx but still expensive for a 22, even though I love my 357 LCR.

The new Mark IV's just hit the market, and were almost half the cost of a revolver. Getting good service from the Mark II, I opted for the Mark IV 22/45 Lite. Several months later, I purchased the newly released LCP II for the money I saved by not purchasing a revolver.

I considered the Wrangler line, even though I'm not a SA revolver fan. However, several things I didn't like about it..... fixed sights, slow to load and unload, and only six round capacity. I believe Ruger should have went with the modern nine round cylinder. YMMV.



Winelover

1006
08-14-2022, 08:41 AM
My impression of the SP101-my Dad had one that I shot a few times.

The SP101 in 22LR is a good reliable, heavy, EXPENSIVE, hard to shoot accurately revolver—even after a Wilson Combat spring kit is installed. If your hands are average size or larger or suffer from Arthritis, the small grips make it difficult to shoot accurately. Even in Single Action mode, the standard grips are still too small.

For the bang/$, almost anything is a better choice than the SP101…..In my opinion, of course. Others may have had better experiences.

Four-Sixty
08-14-2022, 09:44 AM
If you're hands are large, look at the Browning Buckmark. I've had two Mark II's and they never felt right to me. You can also put optics on a Buckmark.

JoeJames
08-14-2022, 01:32 PM
I looked at the Heritage, but the safety decided me against it. Got a Wrangler - trigger pull was as they say in the gun magazines "moderately heavy" at @5 pounds. Did a poor man's trigger job on it - down to @ 3 1/2 pounds now. Tested a slew of different 22 rounds (I don't reload 22LR), and found the CCI target - standard velocity was the most accurate.

303177

Lefty Red
08-15-2022, 06:47 AM
I’m not happy with most 22lr offers these days, especially the ones from Ruger. If I was to get a 22lr pistol, it would be a TX22 from Taurus. Nothing else in the price range, or even double, matches it. So guess I’m of no help, but much luck in your search. Production quality across the board is horrible these days.

Lefty

Daekar
08-15-2022, 07:39 AM
I’m not happy with most 22lr offers these days, especially the ones from Ruger. If I was to get a 22lr pistol, it would be a TX22 from Taurus. Nothing else in the price range, or even double, matches it. So guess I’m of no help, but much luck in your search. Production quality across the board is horrible these days.

Lefty

I just picked up a Kel-Tec P17 for $200, and I'm pretty happy with it. Light, accurate, easy to conceal, suppressor-ready, and 16+1. I had some problems out of the box because it was early production and needed a new-revision part, but once that happened it has been literally 100% no matter what I feed it.

I still prefer a revolver, but if the P17 was my only pistol I would feel equipped for most situations.

Texas by God
08-15-2022, 11:56 AM
I couldn't resist another Wrangler since my daughters have claimed the first three I bought. Casual one handed plinking with .22 CBs in the yard is fun.
I had to upgrade the grips, of course.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220815/e302306615c3ab9b058734af90ae3342.jpg

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Kosh75287
08-15-2022, 02:27 PM
I like Ruger firearms, but would it be heresy to suggest looking into a .22 LR revolver made by Taurus or Rossi? They're usually built on a frame that is a very close match to a S&W K-frame revolver (so very acceptable ergonomics) generally come with adjustable sights, and are currently going for about 1/2 what the SP-101 .22 LRs cost. The double-actions tend to have better single-action trigger pulls than the single-action only revolvers, and both trigger pulls can be improved for not a lot of money.
Just a thought.

35remington
08-16-2022, 12:10 AM
My Wrangler experience is similar to Outpost’s and I selected mine by squinting at the B/C gaps amongst four and choosing. Hits a little low at short ranges but on at 25 for whatever reason. Good general purpose, trapline and plinking 22. Zero regrets.

Accuracy potential is very adequate for its purpose and is good enough for me to realize the piece is verging on very accurate or even better than that with my ability to resolve the sights the main reason for any limitation.

dverna
08-16-2022, 08:11 AM
I am not a big lover of SA .22's. I have the Ruger with both cylinders. Nice gun but slow to reload and I shoot the semi-autos better.

Roger, IIRC there was a post not long ago (by dtknowles IIRC?) about .22 Mag in a pistol and found it was not that great. The powder used burns too slowly in the short barrel to give much of a boost over HV LR ammunition.

I have been thinking of selling my Ruger revolver as I have not shot it in over 10 years. Just can't see ever needing it. But if you are looking at a revolver, the Wrangler seems like a good choice.

FergusonTO35
08-16-2022, 08:46 AM
I like Ruger firearms, but would it be heresy to suggest looking into a .22 LR revolver made by Taurus or Rossi? They're usually built on a frame that is a very close match to a S&W K-frame revolver (so very acceptable ergonomics) generally come with adjustable sights, and are currently going for about 1/2 what the SP-101 .22 LRs cost. The double-actions tend to have better single-action trigger pulls than the single-action only revolvers, and both trigger pulls can be improved for not a lot of money.
Just a thought.

Taurus has really stepped up their game in the past few years, I absolutely love my 856 and G3c. The old 9 shot Taurus .22's had alot of problems but I bet the new 8 shot versions are good to go. They simply don't exist around here, even at places that carry everything else from Taurus. I'm interested in the Charter Arms Pathfinder Target. Eight shots, adjustable sights, costs about half as much as an SP-101. My two Charter .38's are excellent.

FergusonTO35
08-16-2022, 08:50 AM
I’m not happy with most 22lr offers these days, especially the ones from Ruger. If I was to get a 22lr pistol, it would be a TX22 from Taurus. Nothing else in the price range, or even double, matches it. So guess I’m of no help, but much luck in your search. Production quality across the board is horrible these days.

Lefty

I had a Glock 44 for awhile. Mine was 100% reliable with decent ammo, mostly reliable with cheap stuff, and fairly accurate. I ended up selling it because in the end it is a Glock 19 size pistol and I can shoot my 19 with reloads for the same price or less as quality .22 ammo. So, it just seemed kind of pointless overall. Bought a Bersa Thunder .22 the other day and it seems promising so far.

clintsfolly
08-16-2022, 06:02 PM
I am Ruger Single Six’s poor! Have 2 22lr/ mag convertibles ,a 32 mag and have one out visiting JRH and will soon return as 10mm auto 5 shot. All have the Bisley grip frames because they fit my hand best. So if you want get get ahold of me and we will go shooting!

gc45
08-16-2022, 11:37 PM
The Bearcat is a great. Shot one for many years and then gave it to my Grandson. Convertibles, at least in my Old Colt bought a long time ago, have rifle dimensions for the 22 mag bullets and shooting 22Lr in there gave poor accuracy..

RogerDat
08-18-2022, 10:05 AM
I am Ruger Single Six’s poor! Have 2 22lr/ mag convertibles ,a 32 mag and have one out visiting JRH and will soon return as 10mm auto 5 shot. All have the Bisley grip frames because they fit my hand best. So if you want get get ahold of me and we will go shooting! Nice to hear from you! I haven't seen you since that group of us met up for the Mason gun show. Been a bit for sure. I'm sort of laid up right now with a bum left leg but will shoot you a PM and see if we can't make some holes in paper together.

RogerDat
08-18-2022, 10:24 AM
I think except for the Wrangler it will depend on what I can find used. Wrangler is inexpensive enough new that used doesn't save that much. The single six has the opposite problem with the same effect. Popular enough that used is almost as much as new.

The suggestions for Taurus seems a viable way to broaden my potential sources so I would consider one if found.

Both the 22 "six gun" style from Ruger as well as the Mark series are ones I grew up coveting so they have sort of top of the list residency. The single six is great but really likely to be outside what I want to spend on something just for plinking and fun. In the Mark series the the MK 4 is a significant improvement in design but as far as shooting go they all seem the same. Bull barrel is too heavy for family use but otherwise they all work.

Too true that one can cast and reload 9mm or maybe even 38 special for the cost of .22 ammo these days. However that means I can buy store bought in 22 for what I make my own for and that isn't bad. Cans and paper can't tell the difference in hole size.

Had a chance to hold and examine a buckmark and it is a very nice pistol. Should be on mine and anyone's short list for 22 pistols. I would say it is a good example of this discussion opening up my options for what I might find that will be suitable.

While I think SA/DA is preferred I do have SA only and don't find that a problem, in some ways practice for SA with a six gun is useful. The advantage to having DA is practice for trigger control is useful too.

I did have a chance to look at a Ruger American in 9mm and I will say it comes close to diverting me from my chosen path. Very nice, easily improved with a little work, felt good in hand. Already have 9mm molds and dies for family.... One of these days I will have to go to the dark side where plastic and bottom feeding reign since all the cool kids seem to have one.

gwpercle
08-19-2022, 02:11 PM
I Love my Wrangler ... it's the best $199 Sixgun I ever bought . It's just a fun plinking gun and I like the SA Cowboy aspect ... it's a Hoot To Shoot .
I have 4 other 22's with target adjustable sights for shooting for money or scores ... but this little old west shooter is a pleasure .
My only complaint was a "stiff" loading gate ... a grease job pretty much fixed it but I believe a redesigned spring is now available to fix that . Shoots just fine and everything is smooth and indexs like a swiss watch ... well maybe a Timex watch but you get the drift !
When I bought it for $199 the single six next to it was marked $599 ...
I went Wrangler ... No Regrets !
Gary

Loudy13
08-19-2022, 02:35 PM
I wanted a wrangler they look great and decent price.....I guess they are not for sale here in the great state of MN , from what I understand we still have a Saturday night special law.

35remington
08-19-2022, 09:09 PM
They kinda lost their way when they thought that criteria applies meaningfully to a Wrangler. Sorry to hear that.

M-Tecs
08-19-2022, 09:32 PM
I wanted a wrangler they look great and decent price.....I guess they are not for sale here in the great state of MN , from what I understand we still have a Saturday night special law.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/624.712

Subd. 4.Saturday night special pistol. "Saturday night special pistol" means a pistol other than an antique firearm or a pistol for which the propelling force is carbon dioxide, air or other vapor, or children's pop guns or toys, having a frame, barrel, cylinder, slide or breechblock:
(1) of any material having a melting point (liquidus) of less than 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit, or

(2) of any material having an ultimate tensile strength of less than 55,000 pounds per square inch, or

(3) of any powdered metal having a density of less than 7.5 grams per cubic centimeter.

https://americanhandgunner.com/our-experts/rugers-22-wranglers/

The Wrangler has an aluminum alloy mainframe, a zinc alloy grip frame while the cylinder and cold hammer-forged barrel are steel.

35remington
08-19-2022, 09:36 PM
They thought that they were accomplishing something by making that law but I’m pretty sure they could not identify how that has actually helped anything.

megasupermagnum
08-19-2022, 10:01 PM
They thought that they were accomplishing something by making that law but I’m pretty sure they could not identify how that has actually helped anything.

Heck, they can't even identify what is wrote, because what they wrote is garbage. If they followed that law to a T, it would mean the end of handguns entirely in the state. Instead it is completely on a case by case basis, and what handguns are allowed depends on their mood that day. You can argue about it forever, but more than 75% of handguns sold in MN legally today fail miserably at least one of those criteria. Most handguns sold in MN have the majority of their parts as polymer or plastic. But they aren't banned because... reasons. Even the enforcement of the law has been shady. It was on the books for a long time (the 70's best I can tell) until seemingly out of the blue they one day maybe 15 years ago decided, hey, we forgot about this pointless law in a sea of pointless laws. And now you can't buy Hi Point's in MN.

It's a gross and discriminatory law against the poor plain and simple. It might even be outright racist, being as it was written specifically aimed at keeping guns away from inner city minorities.

Outpost75
08-19-2022, 11:11 PM
My Wrangler experience is similar to Outpost’s and I selected mine by squinting at the B/C gaps amongst four and choosing. Hits a little low at short ranges but on at 25 for whatever reason. Good general purpose, trapline and plinking 22. Zero regrets.

Accuracy potential is very adequate for its purpose and is good enough for me to realize the piece is verging on very accurate or even better than that with my ability to resolve the sights the main reason for any limitation.

I finally tested my Wrangler with good standard velocity ammo and Oh My!

CCI standard velocity will be my ammo of choice from now on. At 25 yards off sandbags it groups as well as my Hi-Standard HD Military of similar barrel length. Eley Standard and Eley Sport also grouped under 2 inches at 25 yards for six shots off bags and with 6:00 hold on B8 repair center after taking 0.1" off front sight is well centered in ten ring. Eley Subsonic HP expanded to .33" and penetrated three gallon water jugs at 885 fps. For comparison CCI Blazer high velocity gave 958 fps and CCI Mini-Mag 1098 fps. Fairly typical results for a .22 revolver with barrel length less than 5 inches.

M-Tecs
08-19-2022, 11:59 PM
This thread worked out well for me. I have been looking for a Single Six Bisley SS on and off for years but I hadn't looked since last fall. This thread motived me to start looking again. Not a Bisley but a Single Six Hunter SS convertible was available for a very very good price so it followed me home. It was manufactured in 2016 and was claimed to have only fired 50 rounds. The fit and finish on this one is outstanding.

This will be my 4th Single six convertible. The first three shot 22 Mags. very well, 22 LR not so much. I am hoping this one is better. Others claim the .224 barrels shot well for them so I still have hope to get lucky.

Tripplebeards
08-20-2022, 12:34 AM
For pop can plinking or using for a trap line I like my wrangler. With fixed sights It’s not pin point accurate for me past 15 or so yards. I’ve dispatched over a hundred raccoon and over 50 possum amongst other critters and small game. I’ve learned how potent a little 22lr can be with correct shot placement and the proper ammo choice using my wrangler. Hit a raccoon between the eyes and it doesn’t flinch. Some shots even pop both eyes out like a cartoon. Drop one spring and you’ll get a 2.5 pull. If you want better long range accuracy I’d leaned toward the single six with adjustable sights…or get both!

JoeJames
08-21-2022, 10:59 AM
I finally tested my Wrangler with good standard velocity ammo and Oh My!

CCI standard velocity will be my ammo of choice from now on. At 25 yards off sandbags it groups as well as my Hi-Standard HD Military of similar barrel length. Eley Standard and Eley Sport also grouped under 2 inches at 25 yards for six shots off bags and with 6:00 hold on B8 repair center after taking 0.1" off front sight is well centered in ten ring. Eley Subsonic HP expanded to .33" and penetrated three gallon water jugs at 885 fps. For comparison CCI Blazer high velocity gave 958 fps and CCI Mini-Mag 1098 fps. Fairly typical results for a .22 revolver with barrel length less than 5 inches. I did not have enough Eley to waste on testing; but the CCI Standard Velocity is certainly my favorite from my testing. BTW the CCI Standard Velocity would not cycle in the High Standard Model B I used to have. I figure it was set up for the "new" high velocity 22 LR ammo.