10 gauge loads.

[toot]

any one have a safe BP. load for a 10 gauge DBL, DASMACUS hammer gun? I am shooting heavy 12 gauge loads in my PARKER.

[pmer]

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/blackpowder-shotshell-loading/361504

Here is a link for some low pressure 10 gauge info, I've had good luck using the Longshot data in 2 7/8'' hulls and roll crimping. Mine is a Remington 1889 hammer gun with fluid steel barrels and I've used that data for 6 shot, 00 & 000 buckshot in 3 different wads. There's a good 10 gauge thread on page 2 of the casting for shotguns section as well.

[toot]

pmer, thanks' for the info, and reply to my question. I don't want to damage the old PARKER, it closes up like the door on a brand new CADALIC. I have ear marked it.

[Nobade]

Isn't a standard 10 gauge load 4 drams of powder and 1 1/2 oz shot? And I would use Fg.

[megasupermagnum]

You can stuff all the blackpowder and shot in the shell that will fit, and it still won't reach the pressure levels of "low pressure" smokeless loads. 100gr powder and 1 1/2 or 1 5/8 oz of shot is a very good hunting load.

[toot]

at 78++, I don't' hunt any more, but would like to bust some clay birds with it. I will try the 4 drams of 1FG. real black & 1 1/2 OZ.

[toot]

is the 100 grains of BP, load the same one as the 4 drams load?

[Nobade]

1 dram = 27.34 grains

[megasupermagnum]

If all you want to do is bust clays, try 80 gr powder, and 1 1/8 oz of shot. That's a fairly soft shooting load.

[toot]

megasupermagnum, the load that you posted is the one for me. it doesn't beat up the gun and also me! I tried going with 80 grains 3f, APP, substitute powder instead of black, because I wanted to try it & I have had it for 27 yrs, I put the DESECANT in the MICROWAVE for 1 minuet to dry out out, and the powder still performed great. 1 1/8 th. of # 9 lead shot is the shot size that I used. I loaded both paper & plastic hulls. the paper ones burnt through at the juncture where it meets the high brass, the plastic performed fine, loaded then 4 times so far. and yes it does bust clays! thanking you, toot.

[toot]

Nobade, thank you for the conversion. toot.

[6pt-sika]

I load a pile of 10 gauge 2 7/8” shells each year for my own use . And while I do not use black I do have safe loads using Red Dot , Unique , Universal Clays and SR7625 . Mostly 1 1/4 ounce loads but also one with Red Dot for 1 1/8 ounce . Also an SR7625 load for 1 1/2 ounces . Bear in mind SR7625 is no longer manufactured .

[6pt-sika]

FWIW my normal 8 gauge sporting clays load is typically 1 1/2 ounces of shot pushed with Clays . I have a bunch loaded with 1 3/4 ounces of shot and to be honest they’re a little stouter than I want for an 8 gauge .

[Squid Boy]

I have a couple of loads using International Clays and Clays with 1-1/8 ounces and an SP-10 wad but the SP-10 is hard to find now. They are in the low 6K range. Squid

[Tripplebeards]

I use 100 grains of FG and 1 5/8oz of nickel plated lead for my turkey load. It recoils like a 20 gauge. I tried 116 grains of FG but the pattern opened up a little. Mega helped me out with the load. Shot a double bearded gobbler with it the first time out. Did a post on it the spring before last. I believe the old faithful “light load” thst everyone seemed to recommend to me is either 13 or 14 grains of red dot and 1 1/8 oz of shot. I only use it for hunting so I want a good payload and pattern. The left barrel is my hunting barrel and the right is a worthless spreader barrel on my 1973 Charles Daly 10 gauge SxS. I pulled the wrong trigger and missed a bird this year. In the future I won’t load and,or, cock the hammer for the right side when turkey hunting after the “miss”.

Here’s my load and pattern results…

https://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32852

I also found load data on track of the wolf. It has load data showing square loads to 4.5 drams and 1 5/8oz load. I measured four and a half drams of FG and it came out to 116 grains on my scale. I can tell you the recoil from 100 grains to 116 grains was noticeably more. Look half way down the page for the data…

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/190/1/WAD-09-A

Also a 4 page spread sheet on Parker guns and some more information here…

http://www.tbullock.com/bpsg.html

[harkom]

Isn't a standard 10 gauge load 4 drams of powder and 1 1/2 oz shot? And I would use Fg.

As the man says, but I would probably use FFG if available.

[toot]

I too have used 3fg. in brass hulls, when the need arose. no problems. I don't make it a habit. I have also used T-7, TRIPPLE-7, in grade 2fg.

[6pt-sika]

I picked up a Parker Grade 2 10 gauge top lever hammer gun at Hausemanns during the Northeastern SxS in June . Gun left the factory with a 32” Damascus barrel which is still with the gun , but in the last twenty or so years the gun was sent to Belgium and had a second 32” fluid steel set of barrels made to fit . They also have 3 1/2” chambers and was sent to Briley for screw ins . So I suppose I’ll try loading up 3 1/2” for a tower shoot in WVA this year . Nothing butt kicking just something to say I gave it a try . And it just so happens I have several hundred new Cheddite hulls and a couple hundred new Remington hulls that have not made the trip to the bandsaw to be cut down to 2 7/8” !

[toot]

lucky U, having that many hulls for it. where di U accumulate that many hulls.? lucky U !! I can't even seem to acquire any plastic ones to cut down to 2 & 7/8,ts. seems that used 10 gauge hulls are as rare as rocking horse poop?! where do they all go?

[pmer]

Are there any low pressure loads out there using Winchester wst or wsf?

[6pt-sika]

lucky U, having that many hulls for it. where di U accumulate that many hulls.? lucky U !! I can't even seem to acquire any plastic ones to cut down to 2 & 7/8,ts. seems that used 10 gauge hulls are as rare as rocking horse poop?! where do they all go?

I’ve got over 1,000 Remington 10 gauge hulls that are 2 7/8” . The new Cheddite came from BPI I think in the last year , I picked up the new Remington's from a fellow Parker guy at theSouthern this spring . Before the Covid I’d buy new Remington’s 500 at a crack . Also have a good supply of RST/Cheddite 2 7/8” . Now you wanna see rare start looking for usable 8 gauge hulls ! I have over a thousand of them now but I did my due diligence to get them all were new or once fired !

[trapper9260]

I have some used hulls in 3 1/2" that I got some years ago . I cut them when the mouth of the hulls start to split . My 10ga is a Spanish gun SXS .

[toot]

6pt-sika, it sounds like you have OCD, to the max, a hoarders disorder. it is not a bad thing I wish I had it, with 10 gauge hulls. happy that you had the chance to get them.

[6pt-sika]

6pt-sika, it sounds like you have OCD, to the max, a hoarders disorder. it is not a bad thing I wish I had it, with 10 gauge hulls. happy that you had the chance to get them.

Nope it’s more of a be prepared for the next set of idiots the what seems to be liberal majority sneaks into office next . You don’t see me going around saying I need this or that as I’ve been keeping my eyes open for this stuff ever since the Obamite was the so called president !

[toot]

why are 10 gauge paper or plastic used hulls so hard to acquire / find ? they seem to be as rare as ROCKING HORSE POOP!

[skeettx]

I use Alcan all-brass 10 gauge hulls, hard to find, expensive
but how wonderfully they load :)