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Super Sneaky Steve
07-25-2022, 05:29 PM
So far I've tried 490 round ball, Lee REALs and the Lee improved mini. All shoot OK but not real tight. I can only get the REAL to shoot a nice clover at 50 keeping the speed below 900fps.

I'm thinking I need something heavier like 500gr or more. Can anyone recommend a good 50cal mould for a 1:28 twist?

swamp
07-25-2022, 07:05 PM
I would start with a lubed wad over the powder.

Super Sneaky Steve
07-25-2022, 07:44 PM
I shoot everything but the Mini with a wonder wad.

I just ordered this because they only had one left. Now none. It's a 500S&W boolit with small little lube groves but I guess if it doesn't work out I now have a good excuse to buy a 500 S&W revolver :razz:
https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/501/502-572-rf-af2/502-572-rf-af2-2-cavity-pb/

megasupermagnum
07-25-2022, 07:45 PM
The TC maxiball. You can get them from Track of the Wolf.

fastdadio
07-25-2022, 08:32 PM
I shoot 260 to 300 gr. 44cal. pistol boolits in a sabot in my 1/20 twist. 70 to 90 grs. 2f, 3"groups @ 100yds all day long. Every corn cruncher I've shot was DRT, and all were pass throughs.

Super Sneaky Steve
07-25-2022, 09:16 PM
The TC maxiball. You can get them from Track of the Wolf.

Everything is out of stock there :(

Mr Peabody
07-25-2022, 11:08 PM
Look on Gunbroker, there's usually someone selling maxi's there

725
07-25-2022, 11:29 PM
+1 for the maxi-ball. Didn't have as good luck with the maxi-hunter. Some like 'em better but having shot hundreds of 'em, I stayed with the maxi-ball.

AntiqueSledMan
07-26-2022, 07:31 AM
Hello Super Sneaky Steve,

I've been shooting the RCBS 45-300-FN with a MMP Sabot in a Lyman Great Plains Hunter 1:32.
They shoot well.
We've experimented with the LEE 452-255-RF with a Thompson Center 1:48, but have not finished experimenting.

AntiqueSledMan.

AntiqueSledMan.

elk hunter
07-26-2022, 09:23 AM
Myself and some friends shoot the Lyman Great plains 50 caliber bullet, weight about 385 grains in soft lead, ahead of 100 to 120 grains of FF-G and a lubed felt wad, from Remington 700 in-lines. The bullets are sized to groove diameter and lubed with SPG. It's not uncommon to see some very good groups, under 2"" at 100 yards with iron sights. Unfortunately I'm not one of those that shoot those small groups. Declining eyesight and shaky hands don't make for small groups.

T-Bird
07-26-2022, 10:09 AM
I shoot 429421 in a sabot in my T/C Hawken in it's factory barrel. Shoots very well with 80 gr Pyrodex RS. Doesn't kick as bad as Maxiballs and is much more available. I know it's not a 28 twist, but I bet 28 twist would work well since it's in the neighborhood of 44 mag rifles.

Larry Gibson
07-26-2022, 04:20 PM
+ another for the TC Maxi, I belive there is a mould for it on the for sale forum(?).

I use the Maxi-Ball in my TC Black Mtn Magnum 50 cal which has a 1-28" twist. This 6 shots at 100 yards; first from the barrel then 5 from the speed loaders w/o cleaning or wiping between shots. I cast them out of 16-1 alloy and lube with my beeswax/olive oil lube. I load over Triple 7 3fg. Velocity is 1550 fps.

302583

T-Bird
07-26-2022, 05:11 PM
TOTW has a 6 hole maxiball mold for 61.99 I just looked.

idahoron
07-26-2022, 06:02 PM
Check out my post on paper patching.

fastdadio
07-26-2022, 06:18 PM
Myself and some friends shoot the Lyman Great plains 50 caliber bullet, weight about 385 grains in soft lead, ahead of 100 to 120 grains of FF-G and a lubed felt wad, from Remington 700 in-lines. The bullets are sized to groove diameter and lubed with SPG. It's not uncommon to see some very good groups, under 2"" at 100 yards with iron sights. Unfortunately I'm not one of those that shoot those small groups. Declining eyesight and shaky hands don't make for small groups.

That's gotta hurt at both ends...

charlie b
07-26-2022, 08:12 PM
My Lyman GPH (1-32 twist) likes the Hornady Great Plains. But, I also shoot paper patched, 450gn from BACO or cast Lee 500S&W mold. They are all sized to be a slip fit in the bore, including the Hornady bullets (.502 for my rifle). Load powder charge, card wad, lubed felt wad, then bullet. I can usually shoot 4 or 5 shots with decent accuracy without wiping the bore. The Hornady bullets shoot best with 100gn powder, the 450 BACO and Lee design work best for me at around 80gn.

I tried the 500gn BACO bullets, but, I could not get them fast enough to stabilize with my barrel. Yours might be fast enough to work.

When casting I use a soft alloy 8-10bhn.

Yes, on a bare shoulder it hurts :) I use a PAST recoil pad so I don't have any bruises the following days.

PS with these kinds of loads you will wear out percussion nipples on a regular basis.

Super Sneaky Steve
07-26-2022, 09:42 PM
TOTW has a 6 hole maxiball mold for 61.99 I just looked.

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/1200/1/LEE-32-MAXI-6C

They do but only in 32 caliber as far as I can see. Their website is confusing.

megasupermagnum
07-27-2022, 11:22 AM
It's right under their maxiball molds by Lee. They only have 32 and 50 calibers. Link below. All I can say is wow. I think I paid $50 for my Thompson Center single cavity mold. That 6 cavity Lee is a no brainer. I think I'm going to buy one myself.

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/1201/1/LEE-50-MAXI-6C

megasupermagnum
07-27-2022, 11:28 AM
Everything is out of stock there :(

I just checked. 50 caliber Maxiballs are definitely in stock.

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/129/1

Super Sneaky Steve
07-27-2022, 08:12 PM
I just ordered the Maxi Ball mould. I bought a box of them long ago and I still have a few left. I never got them to shoot very well. They are tight in my bore.

I'm going to try and size mine down to .501 and only lube the bottom grove. The store bought ones have old crusty yellow bore butter all the way up.

OverMax
07-27-2022, 11:59 PM
prbullet.com

megasupermagnum
07-28-2022, 01:09 PM
prbullet.com

Don't order from them. Their stuff is junk, and that's after you hound them to even ship it.

T-Bird
08-01-2022, 12:40 PM
I'll see if I can get a finders fee from TOTW!:-)

OFFSHORE
08-07-2022, 08:13 AM
Tom over at Accurate Molds has some really great bullet molds for muzzleloaders. I have a dual purpose bullet that I shoot in my Hotrod Hawken 45 cal sidelock and in my 50 cal T/C Encore custom barrel with Harvester Sabots, both with 1:24 twists The 46-320C mold from Accurate I cast of 30:1 alloy using pure lead and pewter. I size the bullet to .453 for both rifles and for the 45 cal Hawken I dip-lube the bullets. Great accuracy and great on-game performance with it's wide metplat.

Super Sneaky Steve
08-07-2022, 10:24 PM
Why did you start with a 46 cal bullet if you want to size it down to .453?

OFFSHORE
08-08-2022, 05:54 AM
Why did you start with a 46 cal bullet if you want to size it down to .453?

The bullet design and weight is what I was after. The beauty of working with Accurate Molds is, Tom will work with you and adjust his designs to accommodate your needs. I asked for this mold to drop at .454/.456 using my alloy, and they do, then I run them through a sizing die from forum member Lathesmith (another great guy to work with) to .453, then lube if I shoot them in the Hawken or unlubed if shooting in the inline. Just an idea I was hoping would workout in my favor and it did nicely.