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ElCheapo
07-16-2022, 09:51 AM
Took a stroll around the farm yesterday with my Sig P365XL and this guy popped up about 12 to 15 yards away. I was fortunate to make a good shot...

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725
07-16-2022, 10:35 AM
Well done.

WinchesterM1
07-16-2022, 11:15 AM
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I use 40mm V-MAX for mine, Thea the “critter getter” I keep beside the fridge In the house

ElCheapo
07-16-2022, 11:51 AM
Thanks!

ElCheapo
07-16-2022, 11:51 AM
302179

I use 40mm V-MAX for mine, Thea the “critter getter” I keep beside the fridge In the house

Nice!

ElCheapo
07-18-2022, 08:39 AM
By the way, load was the 95 grain LEE RNFP with enough Green Dot to get 1400 fps.

Geezer in NH
07-18-2022, 09:48 AM
I would have thought a 40mm would have vaporized a target that small. :bigsmyl2::bigsmyl2:

MostlyLeverGuns
07-18-2022, 10:37 AM
I have shot 40mm out of the M79 and M203, did NOT know Hornady made a V-MAX for it.:razz:

WRideout
07-18-2022, 11:01 AM
I would have thought a 40mm would have vaporized a target that small. :bigsmyl2::bigsmyl2:

Just don't stand too close to the target.
Wayne

Kosh75287
07-18-2022, 12:49 PM
I'VE only shot 37mms. I'm such a lightweight. No V-Max tho.

farmbif
07-18-2022, 01:34 PM
im still wondering how many grains the slugs are in those 357mm that Walmart no longer sells

Bigslug
07-29-2022, 08:35 AM
I don't think he's going to be dancing to Kenny Loggins' "I'm Alright". . .

CastingFool
07-29-2022, 09:21 AM
I shot a woodchuck the other day with my Axis 223. The 55 gr spire point just about gutted the critter. Took off the front leg and every thing else b that was behind it. Published velocity was 2900-3000 fps.

pipehand
08-01-2022, 03:51 PM
By the way, load was the 95 grain LEE RNFP with enough Green Dot to get 1400 fps.
You wouldn't mind sharing the overall length of that load with us, would you? I have that mold and have cast and powdercoated som boolits from it, but i havent loaded any yet. Would be using it in a PSA Dagger (Glock 19 clone) and a KelTec Sub2000. There may be loads with that light boolit that approach 2000 fps in rhe 16+ inch barrel.

ElCheapo
08-02-2022, 06:17 AM
You wouldn't mind sharing the overall length of that load with us, would you? I have that mold and have cast and powdercoated som boolits from it, but i havent loaded any yet. Would be using it in a PSA Dagger (Glock 19 clone) and a KelTec Sub2000. There may be loads with that light boolit that approach 2000 fps in rhe 16+ inch barrel.

I haven't measured it, but I'm crimping the end of the case right into the crimp groove on the bullet.

pipehand
08-02-2022, 06:44 AM
Thanks. Will have to experiment.

1hole
08-02-2022, 10:01 AM
Took a stroll around the farm yesterday with my Sig P365XL and this guy popped up about 12 to 15 yards away. I was fortunate to make a good shot...

302175

That's a Mess? It's good that you didn't hit center mass with that 9mm. According to well known ballistics expert Jo Brandon it would have blown the lungs outside the body ... and THAT would have made a mess to remember! ;)

mr surveyor
08-02-2022, 04:39 PM
I haven't measured it, but I'm crimping the end of the case right into the crimp groove on the bullet.


I've gotta ask .... are you crimping 9mm case mouth's into the crimp groove of the bullet?

just asking


jd

ElCheapo
08-02-2022, 06:40 PM
I've gotta ask .... are you crimping 9mm case mouth's into the crimp groove of the bullet?

just asking


jd

Yep. A light crimp.

mr surveyor
08-02-2022, 08:50 PM
Yep. A light crimp.


so, the cartridge isn't headspacing on the case mouth?

jd

ElCheapo
08-03-2022, 08:26 AM
so, the cartridge isn't headspacing on the case mouth?

jd

IDK. They feed, eject and shoot fine.

DDriller
08-03-2022, 10:16 PM
so, the cartridge isn't headspacing on the case mouth?

jd
You can put a crimp on a 9mm and it still head spaces on the mouth.

tunnug
08-03-2022, 10:35 PM
It's called a taper crimp..................

mr surveyor
08-03-2022, 11:18 PM
It's called a taper crimp..................


just not into the crimp groove



jd

ElCheapo
08-06-2022, 04:38 PM
just not into the crimp groove



jd

Not sure why this is an issue, but I followed the directions LEE supplied for setting up my dies which simply state that bullets must be seated deeply enough to work through the guns action. They provided a maximum overall length for the 9mm cartridge along with their charge table, which is straightforward enough. They do suggest trimming cases to the same length for a uniform crimp, but there is no mention of not crimping into the bullet's crimp groove. Over the years I've loaded thousands of 45 auto and 9mm this way, following the die manufacturer's instructions with no issues.

missionary5155
08-07-2022, 08:47 AM
Do what works.
But a FN to the head or shoulders is the best way to stop those hole dwellers from getting away. We tend to the soft mix and give the critter a good zippity-do-da.