Percussion Caps!!!!

[snipin101]

Hello all, I have just recently got into black powder shooting. I started with a Kentucky rifle kit and then moved to a 1860 army replica. In my area there are no percussion caps at all available and I can't even find any online for sale. Where are they!! I don't understand why they are so hard to find. Do any of you guys know where I might be able to order some in stock that is a real website and not a scam? I know you can buy the kit and make them and all but honestly I don't have the time for that. Thanks for the help.

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[rancher1913]

you have 2 choices, go to a gun show and pay through the nose or learn and make your own, its not that hard.

[Gtrubicon]

I’ve never timed myself, but I can make 50 caps in 15-20 minutes tops. They work very well also.

[HWooldridge]

Watch for local estate sales and auctions. I’ve picked up primers from estates where the sellers had no idea of current pricing.

[LAGS]

I make my own Caps with a 22lr reloader forming tool.
Back in the 70's and 80's , I made my own Caps from a tool I made out of a block of wood and a couple punches.
Back then I used Toy Caps to load them.
Now I use Prime All compound either mixed to H48 or F42 ratios.
They are reliable and not hard to make.
Trust me,
Making your own Caps is well worth the investment in both tools , material and your time.

[725]

LAGS - you got a source to get the stuff to make caps? Web site / company name / etc.?

[megasupermagnum]

What state are you in? We have caps here, they are just expensive.

[LAGS]

@725.
Look up 22 reloader site.
Or some others use a Tap a Cap tool off the net.
22 reloader also sells the Prime All compound.
That is also used in reloading rimfire ammo.
I also reload some 22 shorts and LR.
I live in Az.
Since I have some caps , and make my own from time to time , I don't shop for the primers too often.
But others around here say they can't find any at all.

[snipin101]

Thanks, I live in NC and there is absolutely no number 10 or 11 caps to be found anywhere. You can find all the musket caps that you could possibly want but that doesn't do me much good on my revolver. I watched some videos about making some last night and just went ahead and ordered the punch and the prime all. Looks like if I want to shoot my black powder that's what it's gonna take.

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[GregLaROCHE]

I ordered some a couple of weeks ago. A few days later I got a refund saying they were out of stock. Looks like the shortage goes beyond North America.

[rancher1913]

be careful with the "prime all" i believe its the corrosive version of priming compound. fyi you can use it to reload regular primers as well.

[Sasquatch-1]

Give John a call at this location:

BACK CREEK GUN SHOP, INC
863 Chestnut Grove Road * Winchester, VA 22603
PHONE: (540) 888 3349 -
E-MAIL: bcgsi@hughes.net

I am not sure if he has any. If anybody, does it might be him since he sits right next to the N-SSA range in Winchester Va. His web site list :
Pistol Caps
Dynamite Nobel
(German)
Pistol Caps $175.00 / 2500

I do not know if he ships

[Jedman]

Last year I had a table at a gun show and had 3 tins of unopened # 11 caps on my table for $ 2 ea. and no one even looked at them. Now with primers and caps and rimfire blanks costing crazy prices I will just keep them.
My muzzleloading these days are a smokeless 45 cal. shooting a saboted 40 cal. W/ 209’s and a homemade under hammer 58 cal. that uses musket caps.

Jedman

[Rich/WIS]

Where exactly in NC?

[Froogal]

Percussion caps are non-existant. I bought a percussion revolver awhile back, and was able to stumble across ONE tin of percussion caps. Only one tin of 100 caps. I used about 50 of those caps and then put the gun away. Finally gave up and bought a conversion cylinder for it, and now I can enjoy the gun again, but it ain't the same.

[36g]

If using the 22 reloader punch I've had better success using a heavy duty aluminum foil pan as a source as opposed to soda cans. The soda cans tended to slip/twist in the process and yield unusable cups. I found that a disposable aluminum baking pan from the grocery store (or clean up an empty frozen lasagna pan) works very well with a high percentage of usable cups from the get-go.

[KCSO]

Went to the river the other fay and picked up a couple of rocks to chip down for my flinter, good for another 100 shots. Was going to ad NAA NAA NA NA NA but I am too nice for that.

[almar]

be careful with the "prime all" i believe its the corrosive version of priming compound. fyi you can use it to reload regular primers as well.



Its corrosive in the sense that the salts from perchlorate will be hygroscopic and absorb water from the air. It will then corrode the metal. Its like bp fouling from what i understand they both need cleaning after shooting.

[Sasquatch-1]

Went to the river the other fay and picked up a couple of rocks to chip down for my flinter, good for another 100 shots. Was going to ad NAA NAA NA NA NA but I am too nice for that.

I agree. A good old rock lock solves the whole problem. :kidding:

[Battis]

https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/scam-alert-www-outdoorammory-com.384343/page-2
What is an "ammory"

Address listed:
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1000-Egret-Ct_Dunedin_FL_34698_M54373-96824

[snipin101]

Thanks for the info. Yeah a lot of websites say they have caps but they are all scams. I will just wait until my maker gets here. I am located in Seagrove NC. I purchased a stock for my 1860 army and have not shot it yet because a lack of caps. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220713/6844efcf41cb5499499b3e10ce5ae265.jpg

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[Electrod47]

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/938348808
They are pricey, but not much higher than some supplier sites.

[Markopolo]

[QUOTE=snipin101;5429688]Thanks for the info. Yeah a lot of websites say they have caps but they are all scams. I will just wait until my maker gets here. I am located in Seagrove NC. I purchased a stock for my 1860 army and have not shot it yet because a lack of caps. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220713/6844efcf41cb5499499b3e10ce5ae265.jpg

Be sure to wear eye protection with that stock.. they tend to throw lots of debris.

[elmacgyver0]

https://22lrreloader.com/
These people have everything you need to make percussion caps.
Yes, it is corrosive, but isn't black powder, and all the substitutes?
No longer a reason to whine about no percussion caps.

[Wayne Smith]

be careful with the "prime all" i believe its the corrosive version of priming compound. fyi you can use it to reload regular primers as well.

Actually the BP residue protects from the corrosive priming compound. Corrosive primers weren't a problem until we started using smokeless powder.

[rigger]

How many percussion caps can you make with one batch of priming compound from 22reloader?

[Gtrubicon]

How many percussion caps can you make with one batch of priming compound from 22reloader?

1000+ easy

[LAGS]

I never counted how many primers that I made per one package of Prime All.
Because I was reloading 22 lr's at the same time.
But it does go pretty far.
But you do not mix up the whole batch at one time.
You mix small batches , load up some primers.
While the sealer is drying , I mix up another batch of compound , then reload more ammo or primers.
You do not want to have a can of this sensitive propellant just sitting around , because it is impact sensitive.
When I ordered my Prime All.
I ordered 5 bags of it.
I have three bags left and have done bunches of primers.
But I will store the other bags unmixed for safety.
Also.
When you mix Prime All.
Mix it by Weight , not per volume as the instructions say.
Their mix works well when measured with their scoops.
But the mix is far more consistent and accurate when done by weight per the H48 primer compound ratio.

[rigger]

Thanks. I might have to give this a try.

[LAGS]

Making your own primers is well worth it.

[hawkenhunter50]

I never counted how many primers that I made per one package of Prime All.
Because I was reloading 22 lr's at the same time.
But it does go pretty far.
But you do not mix up the whole batch at one time.
You mix small batches , load up some primers.
While the sealer is drying , I mix up another batch of compound , then reload more ammo or primers.
You do not want to have a can of this sensitive propellant just sitting around , because it is impact sensitive.
When I ordered my Prime All.
I ordered 5 bags of it.
I have three bags left and have done bunches of primers.
But I will store the other bags unmixed for safety.
Also.
When you mix Prime All.
Mix it by Weight , not per volume as the instructions say.
Their mix works well when measured with their scoops.
But the mix is far more consistent and accurate when done by weight per the H48 primer compound ratio.

Do you have a link to the H48 instructions with the weights to be used by chance?

[LAGS]

I found my H48 and FH42 primer mixes on Northwest firearms site.
Under Primer mixtures
The FH 42 can be made from the prime All compound chemicals.
It is very similar to H 48.
But just doesn't use the ground glass in it.
But FH42 seems to be more Reliable to me.
I just typed in Priming Mixtures/ northwestfirearms.com and it was on their site.

[hawkenhunter50]

Thank you LAGS

[sharps4590]

Went to the river the other fay and picked up a couple of rocks to chip down for my flinter, good for another 100 shots. Was going to ad NAA NAA NA NA NA but I am too nice for that.


Too cool KCSO.....lol!!! Yeah.....I am quite fond of the rock locks myself. Several years ago an outfit in WVA ran a special on the Tom Fuller black, English flints. I bought a couple bags of the two sizes I use most and that oughta be enough to take me out.

But...I do like to shoot them persuckshun revolvers too....

[Jedman]

Today at a local Walmart they had a whole carton on new packaged tins of no. 11 caps. I pick up the carton as it was not behind the counter and there was no price on them. There was also no employees anywhere or else I would have found what the price was.

Jedman

[Sasquatch-1]

Today at a local Walmart they had a whole carton on new packaged tins of no. 11 caps. I pick up the carton as it was not behind the counter and there was no price on them. There was also no employees anywhere or else I would have found what the price was.

Jedman

I take it you didn't buy them?

[MarkWood]

Thanks for the info. Yeah a lot of websites say they have caps but they are all scams. I will just wait until my maker gets here. I am located in Seagrove NC. I purchased a stock for my 1860 army and have not shot it yet because a lack of caps. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220713/6844efcf41cb5499499b3e10ce5ae265.jpg
Looks good


I take it you didn't buy them?
I think if he bought them, he would name the price ;)

[Fastleo]

My local Walmart has been getting cci #11 caps

[HawkEyeEarl]

midwayusa

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1301928524?pid=995981

not too cheap but if you still need them

[elmacgyver0]

Everyone seems to have their panties in a bunch about making caps with Prime-All.
Go to Aardvark.com and they will teach you how to make NON-CORROSIVE caps if that is your hangup.
Geesh!

[Pereira]

I've seen them at both local WW's this week, $5.32+ tax.
I bought 2 today and, a lb. of Pyrodex RS at $22.44+ tax.

RP

[dondiego]

That Aardvark website is for sale for $9600
Edit : That domain is for RENT for $9600 per month!

[fastdadio]

That Aardvark website is for sale for $9600
Edit : That domain is for RENT for $9600 per month!

I got into it. here it is;
https://aardvarkreloading.com

[elmacgyver0]

I got into it. here it is;
https://aardvarkreloading.com

I haven't been there for a while, so I forgot part of the address, getting old does that.
I guess anyone "really" interested could have Googled it and found it.

[Idz]

I've tried several methods of making caps. Most are listed here:
https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?274339-Guide-to-making-percussion-caps&highlight=guide+to+making+percussion+caps
Latest try was the EPH20 primer compound detailed at Aardvarkreloading. It works great and leaves no corrosive residue but does use lead compounds like commercial caps.