F-150 gas mileage

[quilbilly]

I can't believe my 2019 F-150 gets the gas mileage it does. The truck loves this warmer, if not drier, weather. In the last week I averaged 30.5 MPG over 150 miles of driving. Admittedly the miles are easy with no urban driving, no speeds much over 55 due to slick wet pavement, and in 2wd mode. Even all winter it was quite consistent at about 25 mpg including some combat driving in Seattle.:D

[farmbif]

that's great, I can't get more than 13mpg out of my 02 f150, and that is with new coils and plugs

[cwtebay]

That's pretty amazing! I've owned around 15 F150's and the current 2021 gets 19.2mpg (static 1900# load in back), best one was a 2015 that got 24.

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[jim 44-40]

I can't believe my 2019 F-150 gets the gas mileage it does. The truck loves this warmer, if not drier, weather. In the last week I averaged 30.5 MPG over 150 miles of driving. Admittedly the miles are easy with no urban driving, no speeds much over 55 due to slick wet pavement, and in 2wd mode. Even all winter it was quite consistent at about 25 mpg including some combat driving in Seattle.:D

Do you have the V6 Ecoboost?

[Hossfly]

My 2012 F150 with eco-boost 6 cyl gets 18-20 on highway driving at or just below the speed limit. But you hook up a horse trailer or hay trailer and that good mileage, gets cut in 1/2. Not a 4WD.

[725]

My '93 Chevy 4WD gets 16 or 17 MPG. Boy I wish I had a new F-150. My buddy does and he gets great milage.

[kerplode]

30.5 is amazing mileage for a truck.

My '09 V6 Tacoma does between 16 and 20 on the highway, depending on the wind, and 10-12 pulling a 5000lb trailer. I've only ever driven it at >4500ft elevation, though...Dunno how it would do closer to sea level. Probably similar mileage but a bit more power, I suspect.

[dverna]

I have two F150's. The 2015 V8 gets about 18-21 MPG, the 2016 V6 gets about 1-2 MPG more.

If I keep the V6 at 55 mph it will get 24 MPG.

I had a Mercedes E Class with the engine that would run 4, 6 or 8 cylinders and it was amazing. 28 MPG on the highway. Best car I have ever owned. Hit two deer (doe and fawn) and totaled it at 275k miles.

[G W Wade]

Just traded a 2016 F150 2.7 EcoBoost for 2022 F150 2.7 EcoBoost. Happy with old pickup but picked up 2 mpg on my average. Getting 20 regular and got 18 pulling my A-frame camper (3000 lbs plus ) last weekend Roads are pretty flat up here but that pesky wind GW

[Froogal]

Fantastic!!!

[1Papalote]

My '15 F150 V6 (not Ecoboost) supercrew is showing to average 23.3 mpg over 71000 miles (trip 2 odometer never reset), pulling trailers,carrying a load, normal driving combined. If I drive conservatively on cool nights I can get 25+ on trip 1 odometer. I likes my truck.

[Kimber1911]

19 5.0 we just took on vacation does dang near 20 running 70-80mph

[jonp]

04 F150 4wd with the 5.4 Triton. Gets 17-18mpg hwy

[Hogdaddy]

Heck I thought I was doing good with 15.5 MPGs in my ram 5.7 ; )
H/D

[AnthonyB]

My 2008 F250 6.4 averaged 16 something for the first 60k or so. That was hand calculated from the very first fill up. Fuel was over $5 a gallon when I got the truck, and we know what it is now. Most of my miles are in a 15 Honda Accord Sport manual showing a computer displayed 36.2 MPG over the last 9k plus miles being babied. Running 80 on the interstate nets around 31 or so.

I miss driving the truck, but it is there when needed.
Tony

[Handloader109]

My 05 5.4 Triton has gotten 16 to 19 in summer, usually 15 to 16 in winter.

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[Freightman]

2003 triton 5.4 average 17 unless my grandson in law is driving he has a heavy foot size 15 then the milage is down.

[alamogunr]

16 MPG for my '13 Tundra. Being retired and the Covid shutdown for 2 years has limited miles to approx 45K. My experience with Toyota indicates that it is not yet broken in. Hoping for a couple more MPG. I doubt I'll ever need another truck.

[LEADHOPPER]

Boy, I can only wish for that kind of miles per gallon out of my old '91 F150. I'm lucky if I get 12mpg with a good tailwind

[Tazman1602]

Our 2018 Silverado consistently gets 20-22mpg at 70 mph if I let the cruise and fuel management run things. Towing the boat or trailer will cut that in half like a knife. First truck I ever bought was a new Ford F-150 (1975) and on some days I had to fill it up daily…..which was an entire $12 at the time. The new trucks are awesome no matter who makes them….and that Ford cost me $4250 out the door….our Silverado was almost $60K……
Art

[myg30]

My 2019 F150 w/ 5.0 can get 24mpg hwy if I keep it around 55 but as soon as I get in city it drops to 18-21 depending.
My biggest complaint is the EPA exceptable oil usage of 1qt in 5000 miles. Their bandage is a different dip stick and adding another qt oil.
This is under 50k factory warranty.

Mike

[quilbilly]

Do you have the V6 Ecoboost?
Yes.

[farmbif]

im guessing my 2002 f150 only gets 13mpg is because of the single cam 5.4 engine. in 2003 they changed the design of the 5.4
or maybe its just plain about wore out with 225000 miles

[Handloader109]

Probably the altered design. My 05 I mentioned earlier has just turned over 217,000 and has used oil ever since I bought it at 95,000. Just gor back from 950 mile trip. First 450 got 18.3, coming home ended up 17.4, but had a lot of stop and go before I got on the highway and had a higher load sticking up as air brake. Recliner in the back.

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[MT Gianni]

15 Ram 5.7 Hemi. I get 15 travelling mountains, crossing the continental divide often and averaging 75-80 mph. Towing the boat gets me 10, the camper 7-8. I get 17-19 in the flatlands but never see roads that are not posted at least 65-70. Travelling at lower speeds would be dangerous.

[GregLaROCHE]

My small utility van gets the equivalent of 60-70 mpg with its turbo diesel. The new car gets closer to 80 mpg. Turbo diesel is very efficient these days.

[Cosmic_Charlie]

I have two F150's. The 2015 V8 gets about 18-21 MPG, the 2016 V6 gets about 1-2 MPG more.

If I keep the V6 at 55 mph it will get 24 MPG.

I had a Mercedes E Class with the engine that would run 4, 6 or 8 cylinders and it was amazing. 28 MPG on the highway. Best car I have ever owned. Hit two deer (doe and fawn) and totaled it at 275k miles.

These days hitting a deer with your primary vehicle could be a big hit. Used market is way over priced and desireable new vehicles are in short supply.

[wolfwing]

Are you getting the 30.5MPG number by pencil and paper or by what your dash is telling you? They can be grossly different numbers. My 7.3 dually says I'm getting 18.1 (I drive like a grandpa), but by math I am getting 15. In naturally aspirated engines with automatic trans, these numbers are usually close (within 1mpg). On a turboed or supercharged engine, they can be as much as 10mpg difference between the 2 numbers.

[onlybrowning]

My 2019 F150 w/ 5.0 can get 24mpg hwy if I keep it around 55 but as soon as I get in city it drops to 18-21 depending.
My biggest complaint is the EPA exceptable oil usage of 1qt in 5000 miles. Their bandage is a different dip stick and adding another qt oil.
This is under 50k factory warranty.

Mike

Don’t want to derail, but I feel your pain!


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[quilbilly]

Are you getting the 30.5MPG number by pencil and paper or by what your dash is telling you? They can be grossly different numbers. My 7.3 dually says I'm getting 18.1 (I drive like a grandpa), but by math I am getting 15. In naturally aspirated engines with automatic trans, these numbers are usually close (within 1mpg). On a turboed or supercharged engine, they can be as much as 10mpg difference between to 2 numbers.
That is what is funny about the digital setup on my dash. It says I am getting between 20.5 and 21.1 mpg but when I check the mileage against actual gas usage, it has been consistently about 5-8 mpg higher by pencil and paper.

[obssd1958]

Just drove my '99 F350 from Boise to Winnemucca ( we'll miss you Ward! ).
Pulling a 26ft travel trailer. I got 7.9 mpg, figured by pencil and paper...

[alamogunr]

My present car, a 2017 Toyota Avalon, doesn't have a digital gas mileage readout. Just an estimate of "Miles to Empty". I don't trust it below about 50 miles. In 5½ years we've only put about 41K miles on this car. Not even broken in.

Calculating MPG, to my way of thinking, can only be done by using the trip odometer and the gallons to fill since last fill. Last weekends trip calculated out at just under 30 MPG. When most of the driving is in town, I calculate approx 25-26. As a previous poster mentioned, I drive like Grandpop (grandchildren's name for me).

[Froogal]

That is what is funny about the digital setup on my dash. It says I am getting between 20.5 and 21.1 mpg but when I check the mileage against actual gas usage, it has been consistently about 5-8 mpg higher by pencil and paper.

Fantastic!!!

[farmbif]

its all them digital gadgets that's the reason they need so many computer chips in new vehicles , what a wasted effort, most that stuff is useless or not necessary.

[country gent]

One of the biggest factors in a trucks fuel economy is the gear ratio. there are several options usually from heavy trailer packages that may be 3.83 to 4.11 and the lighter trailer packages that may be 3.53 or there about. A driving truck may be in the 2.83 to 3.11 This affects the engines rpm at a given speed.

I remember some old pick ups on farms here flat head 6s 4 speed manuals and 5.10 gear ratio no economy top end of 40-45 mph but would pull a house. LOL

[Idaho45guy]

I'm leaving in half an hour for a 600-mile round trip to Boise and back to pick up a new motorcycle. I'll be in a 2019 4Runner that averages 15.8 mpg. With the trailer, I'll likely get 13 mpg.

It's going to be an expensive day. At least the full tank in it is a couple of months old and was bought about $.30 cheaper per gallon, lol.

[farmbif]

have safe trip and enjoy that new 650

[wolfwing]

Just drove my '99 F350 from Boise to Winnemucca ( we'll miss you Ward! ).
Pulling a 26ft travel trailer. I got 7.9 mpg, figured by pencil and paper...

I don't know how to break it to ya, but I get 7.4 mpg in my 99 Western Star pulling 80K. And the ride is a whole lot more comfortable! Although the last 3 years I have been at 110K and at 5.25 mpg.

[Idaho45guy]

have safe trip and enjoy that new 650

Got home safely, but had to pay $5.29 per gallon at one station in the middle of Idaho.

When I left at 8:00 this morning, gas in town was $4.89 a gallon. When I rolled back into town at 10 pm, it was $5.05 a gallon.

Crazy!

But the bike made it safely home.

300992

[jonp]

One of the biggest factors in a trucks fuel economy is the gear ratio. there are several options usually from heavy trailer packages that may be 3.83 to 4.11 and the lighter trailer packages that may be 3.53 or there about. A driving truck may be in the 2.83 to 3.11 This affects the engines rpm at a given speed.

I remember some old pick ups on farms here flat head 6s 4 speed manuals and 5.10 gear ratio no economy top end of 40-45 mph but would pull a house. LOL

I've got the towing package on mine. I'm thinking of changing the gears for increased mileage as I'm not going to come close to towing to it's rated capacity. 2-3,000 is about it.

[jonp]

I don't know how to break it to ya, but I get 7.4 mpg in my 99 Western Star pulling 80K. And the ride is a whole lot more comfortable! Although the last 3 years I have been at 110K and at 5.25 mpg.

I had a T2000 that got the same mileage. Then came DEF, new EPA stuff and my mileage has dropped into the 6's. I also had few empty miles pulling 40,000lbs of paper both ways on a dedicated trip. As an aside, that run was 1,125 each way. Paper mill paid me to run paper to a different mill to make up shipping shortage and do the same on the way back. It was cheaper to do this than pay the union to start up a production run. Both mills are now gone as the union refused to see the writing on the wall and make concessions. Kept their pay by holding tough but only for another year or two then the mill was torn to the ground and their pay ended up $0 but they showed the company who was boss. Hope it was worth it.

[David2011]

Mine is a 2000 F-150 4x4 with the Triton 5.4. It got around 17mpg on the highway until it developed a manifold vacuum leak. Turned out that it also had a defective mass airflow sensor. Mileage dropped to 13-14. Once the issues were resolved its former mileage was back.

[wolfwing]

I had a T2000 that got the same mileage. Then came DEF, new EPA stuff and my mileage has dropped into the 6's. I also had few empty miles pulling 40,000lbs of paper both ways on a dedicated trip. As an aside, that run was 1,125 each way. Paper mill paid me to run paper to a different mill to make up shipping shortage and do the same on the way back. It was cheaper to do this than pay the union to start up a production run. Both mills are now gone as the union refused to see the writing on the wall and make concessions. Kept their pay by holding tough but only for another year or two then the mill was torn to the ground and their pay ended up $0 but they showed the company who was boss. Hope it was worth it.

This is the union way: Protect the lazy worker and destroy the employer. They have it down to a science.

[obssd1958]

Just got back from Winnemucca.
I concentrated on getting the best mileage on the return trip. Kept it at 65 MPH or under (it's got a 4.30:1 gear set in it), and let it choose it's own comfortable speed going up the inclines (50 MPH at 3K RPM or under) - in other words, not pushing it.
We got 9.9 MPG on the return trip, as opposed to the 7.9 we got on the way there.
I know there were probably other factors, but it does show that I can get better mileage if I try.

oh, and it's the V10 motor

[Cosmic_Charlie]

My present car, a 2017 Toyota Avalon, doesn't have a digital gas mileage readout. Just an estimate of "Miles to Empty". I don't trust it below about 50 miles. In 5½ years we've only put about 41K miles on this car. Not even broken in.

Calculating MPG, to my way of thinking, can only be done by using the trip odometer and the gallons to fill since last fill. Last weekends trip calculated out at just under 30 MPG. When most of the driving is in town, I calculate approx 25-26. As a previous poster mentioned, I drive like Grandpop (grandchildren's name for me).

Our 2016 Avalon gets close to 30 in summer and about 28 in winter based on it's read outs. Our Camrys got into the low 30's. I reckon folks will just keep paying the high price and won't get testy until gas in rationed or unavailable.

[Froogal]

Our 2016 Avalon gets close to 30 in summer and about 28 in winter based on it's read outs. Our Camrys got into the low 30's. I reckon folks will just keep paying the high price and won't get testy until gas in rationed or unavailable.

Some of us worn out old guys simply cannot get into those small cars, and even if we did, we'd need help getting out. I fit just fine into a Chevy Silverado, and it will get me where I need to go in just about any weather.

[Gator 45/70]

Actuality vs Reality
2011 F-150 4x4 5.0
The onboard computer says its getting xx miles per gallon.
The reality is that it has never been correct about miles per gallon ....never ever.

[Froogal]

Actuality vs Reality
2011 F-150 4x4 5.0
The onboard computer says its getting xx miles per gallon.
The reality is that it has never been correct about miles per gallon ....never ever.

2012 Silverado. Onboard computer consistently indicates 2 to 3 miles per gallon BETTER than when using paper and pencil.

[Idaho45guy]

What kills me are people that are incapable of doing simple math.

I work with millenials, so I am used to hearing stupid things every day.

I was talking with a young gal and her and her husband had bought a brand new Toyota Tacoma pickup a year ago. She was complaining that it only gets 20 mpg and that they wanted to trade it in on a new Tundra Hybrid full-size pickup.

I asked what the mpg rating was on the new truck. 22 mpg. I asked her how many miles they had on their year old Tacoma. 10k.

The Tundra is $20k more than the Tacoma after trade-in.

They drive 10,000 miles a year, so at 2 mpg increase at $5 a gallon gas, they are saving $225 a year in gas by spending $20k. It will take them 89 years to realize a break even point.

I see it all the time; people talking about spending thousands of dollars to save a couple of hundred in gas costs.

I bought a brand new dual-sport motorcycle last week. I rode it to work twice this week. It gets 50 mpg. My daily driver gets 29 mpg. My commute is 30 miles round trip and gas is $5.05 a gallon.

So, every day I ride my motorcycle to work, I save $2.19. If the weather is perfect and I can commute 5 days a week on the bike, then I will save $11 a week, or $44 a month. The insurance on the bike, alone, is $38. Not to mention oil changes, tire wear, etc.

But, if I figure riding the motorcycle compared to my SUV, which gets 15 mpg, then I save about $140 a month, which is not bad.

It's pretty rare that trading up for a vehicle every makes economic sense in regards to fuel costs.

[alamogunr]

I had a friend(deceased) who back in the 70's after the oil embargo by the Arabs, would drive 20 miles round trip to save .05/gal on gas. I couldn't convince him that he would be much better off to just pay the price.

During that same period, we had a large gas guzzler that got maybe 12-13 mpg. I did the math and decided that any vehicle I traded for would be completely worn out before I could break even. Now cars last a lot longer. We've kept the last three vehicles at least 10 years. I couldn't care less how much they depreciate when I drive them off the dealer's lot.

[Wild Bill 7]

I have 09 Dodge Ram quad cab 5.7 Hemi. Bought it used and took two trips to Tennessee from Florida and and averaged 18 to 20 mph on the trips. Around town 14 to 15 if I drive my age. If my wife drives it it’s gets 11 to 13 mph. We also have a 03 Grand Marquis with the small 5.0 engine and used it on our last trip and averaged 24 to 26 mph. Also those mileages are driving 70 to 80 on the interstate. It’s amazing that driving 75 and 80 and most times you have to watch out for the 90 to 100 mph driver’s.
Wolf wing is your avatar a Papillon? Our first little one looked just like yours. Sadly after 18 years we lost her.

[jonp]

What kills me are people that are incapable of doing simple math.

I work with millenials, so I am used to hearing stupid things every day.

I was talking with a young gal and her and her husband had bought a brand new Toyota Tacoma pickup a year ago. She was complaining that it only gets 20 mpg and that they wanted to trade it in on a new Tundra Hybrid full-size pickup.

I asked what the mpg rating was on the new truck. 22 mpg. I asked her how many miles they had on their year old Tacoma. 10k.

The Tundra is $20k more than the Tacoma after trade-in.

They drive 10,000 miles a year, so at 2 mpg increase at $5 a gallon gas, they are saving $225 a year in gas by spending $20k. It will take them 89 years to realize a break even point.

I see it all the time; people talking about spending thousands of dollars to save a couple of hundred in gas costs.

I bought a brand new dual-sport motorcycle last week. I rode it to work twice this week. It gets 50 mpg. My daily driver gets 29 mpg. My commute is 30 miles round trip and gas is $5.05 a gallon.

So, every day I ride my motorcycle to work, I save $2.19. If the weather is perfect and I can commute 5 days a week on the bike, then I will save $11 a week, or $44 a month. The insurance on the bike, alone, is $38. Not to mention oil changes, tire wear, etc.

But, if I figure riding the motorcycle compared to my SUV, which gets 15 mpg, then I save about $140 a month, which is not bad.

It's pretty rare that trading up for a vehicle every makes economic sense in regards to fuel costs.

You are preaching to the choir on this one. Just pulled the tranny on my 1997 CRV to replace the torque converter at $140. New CRV would solve replacing anything but cost $35,000. Gets better mileage but how long would it take me to get that money back at $10 gas? We are late 50's and would never see the break even plus you cant pull the tranny on a new vehicle in the driveway like i just did.

[jim 44-40]

Using E85 in our 2011 F150 V8 5.0 getting 17 mpg. Have 75000 miles on it.Best we ever had was 21 on highway trip. Fill up today cost 4.16 gallon.

[Cosmic_Charlie]

Some of us worn out old guys simply cannot get into those small cars, and even if we did, we'd need help getting out. I fit just fine into a Chevy Silverado, and it will get me where I need to go in just about any weather.

The Avalon is full size four door six banger. Plenty of room.

[alamogunr]

The Avalon is full size four door six banger. Plenty of room.

We are driving our 3rd Avalon right now. The first two, we kept for over 10 years and this one is in its' 5th year. Yet to be seen if we will ever need another one. REPAIR? What's that?

[rockrat]

We are on our 3rd Highlander. Took it to CA to see stepmom. 27-36 mpg depending on hills and wind. Daughter has our first one and its 12 years old and about 200K. Spark plugs have been the costliest maintenance.
I fit in the Highlander OK, but preferred our earlier one as they shrunk the newer ones. I am 6'3" and 320lbs and wear a 53" coat so shoulder room is a big deal for me. I really wanted a 4 runner, but my shoulder was jammed up against the door post and I figured if we were in even a smallish side impact crash, my shoulder would be crushed, so no go on one. Kind of have to pick a vehicle that I can fit in and it seems the new ones are shrinking/lighter, to get better gas mileage.
Our first one called for 5w-30 oil, the second was 5w-20 and the third one is 0w-20. Pretty well the same engine I think, but I guess they are trying for better CAFE mileage possibly at the expense of engine protection. When you try and pass a car the tranny downshifts and engine goes to 5500rpm. Doesn't seem like 0w20 would have the film strength to protect the engine. I might be wrong however!!

[Idaho45guy]

Our first one called for 5w-30 oil, the second was 5w-20 and the third one is 0w-20. Pretty well the same engine I think, but I guess they are trying for better CAFE mileage possibly at the expense of engine protection. When you try and pass a car the tranny downshifts and engine goes to 5500rpm. Doesn't seem like 0w20 would have the film strength to protect the engine. I might be wrong however!!

I suspect you are right. I have a 2019 4Runner, and at 6'2, 300 lbs, and wear a 55" jacket, I have plenty of room. My vehicle calls for 0W20W oil. I do my own oil changes and put in 5W20W Mobil 1 full synthetic and use K&N oil filters. Who knows if it makes a difference. At only 36k miles, my Toyota is not even broken in.

I don't understand those that continue to waste their hard-earned money on unreliable junk that falls apart before 100k miles.

It's like my dad, who drove nothing buy Chevy, thought his 2007 HHR was a great and reliable vehicle when it "only" needed a new fuel pump, water pump, and front suspension before 100k miles.

His third wife insisted on a Toyota Rav4 for her vehicle, and he kept it in the divorce to spite her. He loves it, and gave the HHR to me, since he now knows what a good vehicle is.

[john.k]

Every car now specs some water thin oil to get the fuel milage advertised and to mimimize emissions........I just use 15/40 from the compressors...retired now,but made sure I got enough oil and filters to last till Im 90.....took 1000gal of free fuel too ,from the refinery....I was bit wasteful with that,and its all gone.

[Froogal]

We are driving our 3rd Avalon right now. The first two, we kept for over 10 years and this one is in its' 5th year. Yet to be seen if we will ever need another one. REPAIR? What's that?

Our 2012 Silverado has over 80,000 miles and has never needed anything other that routine maintenance and one set of new tires.

[farmbif]

this whole thread has me wondering after putting $25 of gas in my truck two days ago to go about 60 miles.
when I got the 2002 f150 4x4 with 5.4 triton with 220000 miles back in November I knew it had problems. did a bunch of research online as to most likely causes of problems, bought the best quality parts at the fairest price I could, I took it to a very honest and knowledgeable shop. they put it on computer and diagnosis was the coils, the parts I bought were perfect fix. they put in top of the line platinum spark plugs also and the engine ran perfect. an oil and filter change and had them check everything they could and truck got clean bill of health. but still only gets 13mpg. now with everyone chiming in on the milage they are getting with their f150's im thinking maybe mine has some other problem causing low mpg's. any suggestions?

[fixit]

Be aware that almost every company has their "throwaway" model! I was a service tech at a Toyota dealership in the early 90s, and I can tell you, the final series of the tercel was crap on wheels! During cold weather, every tech in the shop had at least 3 of them in the back lot waiting for the heads to come back from the machine shop. I did so many that I could have the head off and stripped (including pulling the valves) and ready to go to the machine shop in less than an hour! As troublesome as that engine was, they used it in at least two other models afterwards. Oh yeah, the lowest mileage I heard of for the tercelitis (yes, we had a nickname for it!) was around 25,000 miles. I have tried to warn several people away from those models, but people will do what they will do.

[fixit]

I will add.....don't dis the domestic dependability.....I could drone on for a half hour or more with my experiences with iron from the big three going 3 and 4 hundred k! Certain models were and are well known for doing that!

[Froogal]

this whole thread has me wondering after putting $25 of gas in my truck two days ago to go about 60 miles.
when I got the 2002 f150 4x4 with 5.4 triton with 220000 miles back in November I knew it had problems. did a bunch of research online as to most likely causes of problems, bought the best quality parts at the fairest price I could, I took it to a very honest and knowledgeable shop. they put it on computer and diagnosis was the coils, the parts I bought were perfect fix. they put in top of the line platinum spark plugs also and the engine ran perfect. an oil and filter change and had them check everything they could and truck got clean bill of health. but still only gets 13mpg. now with everyone chiming in on the milage they are getting with their f150's im thinking maybe mine has some other problem causing low mpg's. any suggestions?

The difference is that YOU are being honest.

[Fishman]

My 2000 Chevy Silverado, which I have posted about on here before, remains perfectly operational and is right at 350k miles. It continues to get 15.5 mpg all around, 17 mpg on the highway, and 12 mpg if towing my small boat around for most of the tank. My kid, who was almost born it it (barely made it to the hospital) absolutely loves the truck and keeps spiffing it up in minor ways and maintaining it. He has his own car, but he likes driving the truck a lot. I've had it since new, worked it plenty hard, and its been a great truck.

The 2018 Nissan Titan I replaced it with has been largely trouble-free, with a couple of minor fixes needed for initial assembly issues and a tailgate unlock feature that doesn't work too well any more. But 85k miles already, 19 mpg on the highway, 16 mpg all around, and 8 mpg towing the pontoon.