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msta999
05-30-2022, 08:02 PM
I have gas checks coming, but want to try out a few of my cast bullets, anyone know where I can find load data for this? probably around 1150 vel.

30calflash
06-01-2022, 09:15 AM
Look here: https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?13425-Cast-Bullet-Loads-for-Military-Rifles-Article

The 150 grain plain base load info will get you started.

Dutchman
06-02-2022, 07:25 PM
If you just want a powder puff load 8-10 grs Unique will do it.

Dutch

ShooterAZ
06-02-2022, 07:30 PM
16 grains of 2400 will get it done nicely, if you have some. It's probably just a tad higher than 1150 fps though.

kayala
06-02-2022, 09:25 PM
That's what I use - 16gr of 2400 it works with 160gr and just as well with 205gr, kind of like magic :)

Leadmad
06-02-2022, 09:33 PM
30calflash is onto it, I also use the same recipes in my 30 cal rifles

Larry Gibson
06-03-2022, 09:07 PM
I use Bullseye. Suggest you try 8 gr +/-.

msta999
06-06-2022, 09:34 PM
Thanks, but I don't have any of these powders. I just got my gas checks, I powder coated the bullets and installed the gas checks. These are some powders I would like to use up:
AL5, AL7, AL8, green dot, herco, red dot, PB, 4756, blue dot; these are all from the same era. Anyone know what these convert to or have data for them?

Also for 30/06 lead gas checked, for hunting.

iron brigade
06-07-2022, 04:58 AM
8 of green dot, 4756,
7 of red dot
9 of blue dot
For 06 hunting I chronographed 14 grains of blue dot with a 190 grain boolit at 1550 fps.

Larry Gibson
06-07-2022, 12:49 PM
Thanks, but I don't have any of these powders. I just got my gas checks, I powder coated the bullets and installed the gas checks. These are some powders I would like to use up:
AL5, AL7, AL8, green dot, herco, red dot, PB, 4756, blue dot; these are all from the same era. Anyone know what these convert to or have data for them?

Also for 30/06 lead gas checked, for hunting.

Try 6 - 8 gr of your Red Dot.

Bigmancrisler
06-07-2022, 05:00 PM
Thanks, but I don't have any of these powders. I just got my gas checks, I powder coated the bullets and installed the gas checks. These are some powders I would like to use up:
AL5, AL7, AL8, green dot, herco, red dot, PB, 4756, blue dot; these are all from the same era. Anyone know what these convert to or have data for them?

Also for 30/06 lead gas checked, for hunting.

I personally use 13gr of red dot in 30 cal to 8mm with awesome success, I use the lee 312-160 mold and for most every rifle I have to set the sights to 300 for shooting at 100 yards and 600 for 200. I personally think it has less kick and quieter than 16gr 2400. YMMV.


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mace2364
06-14-2022, 08:47 PM
I personally use 13gr of red dot in 30 cal to 8mm with awesome success, I use the lee 312-160 mold and for most every rifle I have to set the sights to 300 for shooting at 100 yards and 600 for 200. I personally think it has less kick and quieter than 16gr 2400. YMMV.


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Have you tried the 160gr mold in .303, 7.7
Japanese, or 7.62x54r? I’ve been using that mold for 7.62x39 and was thinking of trying it in those.

GooseGestapo
06-14-2022, 10:27 PM
That bullet works wonderfully.
Shim the mold with Aluminum tape if you need a larger bullet. I have Lee 1,2, and 6-cavities version of that mold. I size them .314” for Mosin Nagant and .303Brit. .311” for .308, .30/06, .30/30.
I mostly use #2400.
Your Red Dot, Green Dot, Herco and Blue Dot will do well!

Your rear sight set to 400m will work fine.

Without a gas check, use 8.0gr RedDot or Green Dot...
A tuft of Dacron pillow stuffing (like a small cotton ball) over the powder will enhance accuracy.

Bigmancrisler
06-15-2022, 06:24 AM
Have you tried the 160gr mold in .303, 7.7
Japanese, or 7.62x54r? I’ve been using that mold for 7.62x39 and was thinking of trying it in those.

I use it exclusively for .303, 54r, x39, and 3006. I don’t own anything in 7.7 yet. But ya they all shoot awesome with the same powder charge. I’m waiting on a 7mm mold to try that but if your gonna shoot 6.5 carcano I’d back it down to 10 and shooting bigger case 8mm like 8x56r and 8x51 lebel I had good results with 13gr as well but I use the lee .330 mold for that


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Bigmancrisler
06-15-2022, 06:28 AM
That bullet works wonderfully.
Shim the mold with Aluminum tape if you need a larger bullet. I have Lee 1,2, and 6-cavities version of that mold. I size them .314” for Mosin Nagant and .303Brit. .311” for .308, .30/06, .30/30.
I mostly use #2400.
Your Red Dot, Green Dot, Herco and Blue Dot will do well!

Your rear sight set to 400m will work fine.

Without a gas check, use 8.0gr RedDot or Green Dot...
A tuft of Dacron pillow stuffing (like a small cotton ball) over the powder will enhance accuracy.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220615/6b12165d20f3cf4327bdcbaee5bb3ce5.jpg
I keep a bunch on hand that are already PC so I can just run it through the sizer depending on what rifle I’m loading for. After PC they’re usually .314-.315 so with my mosins I just run it through the sizer to just crimp the GC on


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Bigmancrisler
06-15-2022, 06:30 AM
Have you tried the 160gr mold in .303, 7.7
Japanese, or 7.62x54r? I’ve been using that mold for 7.62x39 and was thinking of trying it in those.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220615/6aad085eddfc41ce7841d1009267fadb.jpg
This is my last run of .303 Brit I did, sized to .314 as my P14 is larger than my other enfields.


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GooseGestapo
06-18-2022, 04:12 PM
Too purdy to shoot!
I seat mine to put base of bullet even with bottom of case neck.
Lightly crimp with Lee FCD.

msta999
07-16-2022, 03:17 PM
how do you get yours to be so smooth and shinny? mine have small lumps in them and are dull.

slim1836
07-17-2022, 02:28 AM
how do you get yours to be so smooth and shinny? mine have small lumps in them and are dull.

My guess is you "Shake and Bake" and he sprays his. I got the same results when I "Shake and Baked". I like spraying my own much better.

Slim

Slim

msta999
07-17-2022, 12:22 PM
Yes, I am just learning and shake and bake is what I'm doing, is the spray a powder? and do you also spray the bottom?