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Idaho45guy
05-27-2022, 04:57 AM
While shooting some new loads today, I was amazed at how far the brass was thrown.

XDM 10mm. Last range session using 180 grain loads was impressive at 33 feet.

This time using 200 grain loads was astonishing at 45 feet.

No signs of over pressure or anything negative. I'm used to picking up brass within 15 feet or so with my 9mms and .40 S&W pistols.

Anyone else see a pistol throw brass so dang far?

wilecoyote
05-27-2022, 06:07 AM
in my experience, these were the effects of a powder that was too slow (and unsuitable for the 7.62 nato) and heavy bullets in a stg58 semiauto rifle.
I wish that's not your case_

shooting on a shoestring
05-27-2022, 06:14 AM
Wow!
Can you get any chronograph data on that brass?
Ha!

That’s some serious slide velocity when the brass hits the ejector.
Might be the recoil spring is not up to the heavy loads.
I’d look at increasing spring weight a couple of pounds.

If you’re happy with the spring, you can file the front of the ejector back a little at a time until the brass is hitting the ejector closer to when the slide stops and is moving slower. But, over-do it and it might not eject well with lighter loads.

But, it might not be a problem. It might be cool thing throw your 10mm brass farther than most people shoot 9mm!

Texas by God
05-27-2022, 08:33 AM
I can't believe how far my Shield 40 throws empties. Well over twenty feet. All of the CZ52 pistols that I had in the past would fling the empties WAY out there- but they were Berdan primed so I didn't care!

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Thumbcocker
05-27-2022, 08:59 AM
Next step; low earth orbit.

jdfoxinc
05-27-2022, 09:48 AM
Both my ROMANIAN TT 33s throw brass way out there.

375supermag
05-27-2022, 10:41 AM
Ho...
My son has two 10mm handguns.
They both throw brass an ungodly distance. I have never seen a 9mm, .40S&W or .45ACP pistol throw brass half as far as his 10mm pistols do.

44MAG#1
05-27-2022, 11:31 AM
I have 4 10MM,s. They throw brass far. Just have to walk farther to pick it up is all.

Hossfly
05-27-2022, 12:17 PM
In my old age I’m liking the black powder pistols more and more. With out conversion cylinders don’t even contend with brass. But there is trade offs, you get to clean that sucker a lot. If you make your own black powder,caps and pour your own boolits,cost is minimal also.

Now when I shoot the CZ75 9mm thats when the fun begins with watching where the group goes. Not too far though.

rintinglen
05-27-2022, 12:33 PM
I have a 40 Firestar that seems to think it is a first-stage Saturn Rocket.

dverna
05-27-2022, 10:44 PM
Neither the Colt SAA’s or S&W 686+’s have an issue.

Rapidrob
05-27-2022, 10:53 PM
CZ-52 7.62x25 will throw brass into the next county.

stubshaft
05-27-2022, 11:02 PM
My little Kahr CM-40 flings them around 15 yards, but I think ya got me beat.

scattershot
05-27-2022, 11:43 PM
Stronger recoil spring, perhaps?

Johnch
05-28-2022, 12:52 AM
Before I changed the recoil spring on my Glock 22 40 S&W
It would throw ....Err Launch Winchester Ranger 180 gr HP brass 30+ feet
But that is a hot loading
I only shot less than a 50 rnd box before I changed to a new and higher pound recoil spring
As I knew that , that load was pounding on the pistol to much

But I also own a Hungarian made copy of the Browning HP
With almost all factory loads and reloads
It only throws brass 8 - 10 feet
But with Sellier and Bellot 124 gr FMJ ammo I bought a while back
It also Launched brass a LONG ways , never measured how far
I just stopped buying that ammo

John

flyingmonkey35
05-28-2022, 01:36 AM
I swear this is a true story, I was out shooting at the old range with my trusty 45 acp the brass flew so hard out it hit me on the left side of the head. Must have traveled the earth at least once for that to happen.

Of course it could have been the other shooter to the left of me but..


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Idaho45guy
05-28-2022, 03:09 AM
I swear this is a true story, I was out shooting at the old range with my trusty 45 acp the brass flew so hard out it hit me on the left side of the head. Must have traveled the earth at least once for that to happen.

Of course it could have been the other shooter to the left of me but..


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LOL! good tale!

El Bibliotecario
06-01-2022, 02:00 PM
A long time ago when things were cheaper and I was dumber, I fired my Astra 600 with Canadian 9mm submachine gun ammunition. The ejection, to put it mildly, was brisk.

ReloaderFred
06-01-2022, 06:14 PM
All of my Witness 10mm handguns throw the brass waaay, waaay out there. I mean in the 45 to 50 foot range, so I just shoot next the wall on the shooting bay and duck when the brass bounces back at me.

The S&W 1006 doesn't throw them as far, and the S&W 610 drops them into my hand.:)

My Springfield XDm in 10mm does throw the brass a ways, but not near as far as the Witnesses do. However, my 10mm AR throws it out there pretty good, too.

TyGuy
06-01-2022, 10:39 PM
Another vote for the CZ-52 chambered in 7.62Tok. Mine seems to think spent brass is supposed to be sent to the next area code. At least you know she isn’t going to stove-pipe if you decide to limp wrist it!

Earlwb
06-02-2022, 05:48 PM
I swear this is a true story, I was out shooting at the old range with my trusty 45 acp the brass flew so hard out it hit me on the left side of the head. Must have traveled the earth at least once for that to happen.

Of course it could have been the other shooter to the left of me but..


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I had the cases fly up and bounce off the ramada or the ceiling in a indoor range. The case would bounce off the ceiling for example then sometimes they bounce off of the side wall and wack me on the left side.
My 45-70 pistol was notorious for shaking the dirt and dust off of the ramada or ceiling too. Sometimes a small wasp nest as well. Nothing like the first shot of the day and you get a mini-avalanche of dust and dirt on your head.

Jtarm
06-03-2022, 07:34 PM
I don’t shoot bottom feeders much, but the one that sticks in my mind was a Colt Series 70 Govt Model .45 ACP.

Not due to the distance, but the total randomness of which way it pitched empty cases. They would land at various distances up to 8’ away and anywhere from 10:00 to 8:00. Occasionally straight up then down the neck of my shirt.

Outpost75
06-03-2022, 10:47 PM
I am told that during WW1 open cockpit pilots shot at each other with M96 Broomhandle Mausers, M1911s and top-break .455 Webleys before they mounted machine guns. Expect cases fell considerable distance to earth.

ACC
06-05-2022, 12:01 AM
My Model 59 S&W throws them out to about 30 feet. My M1A1 about 40 feet but always in the same spot.

ACC

45workhorse
06-05-2022, 12:50 AM
My Rock Island 1911 10mm puts brass in a low orbit, with factory mag tech ammo.

Greg S
06-05-2022, 02:09 AM
An MP5SD shooting 124 NATO 9mm can be deadly to the shooter to the right.

missionary5155
06-05-2022, 11:20 AM
I once put a "used" brass ejector on a 1911 that was "adjusted" by someone.
It would launch empty cases at good enough velocity straight up far enough to be hard to see up there. It was a fun novelty as my son was having a ball trying to catch them on the way down.
But that ejector was removed and a new one installed that was not cut off to short.

JonB_in_Glencoe
06-05-2022, 02:32 PM
A Polish P-64 (9mm Mak) of mine would launch them 50 feet...to random spots/directions, making brass tough to recover at my range. Powder charge didn't seem to matter. So after loosing a bunch of brass that I painstakingly converted, the P-64 became a safe queen.

45DUDE
06-05-2022, 02:42 PM
I know a guy his brass groups better than his boolits.

Idaho45guy
06-05-2022, 04:20 PM
I know a guy his brass groups better than his boolits.

Ha! When I fired my AR in .450 Bushmaster, I was amazed that it threw it's brass in a neat little pile. I believe a took a photo of it, I was so impressed...

301015

Geezer in NH
06-07-2022, 09:41 PM
My original Bushmaster Pistol threw the 5.56mm brass past 25-30 FEET!

Fun blaster but????? :cool:

WinchesterM1
06-07-2022, 11:49 PM
I’ve got a Sig X-10 In 10mm that throws brass 20-40feet, my Kimber throws brass 30-40 feet and my XD-Elite throws brass 20-30feet

All 10mm/

Rapier
06-08-2022, 07:51 AM
You can adjust/tune the ejector and the recoil spring on an auto gun, thus change the trajectory of the ejected brass.You can also add buffers. This is important to prevent frame and slide damage from steel on steel impact, plus when on a firing line, not hitting other shooters with red hot fired casings.

RJM52
06-08-2022, 08:39 AM
Another 10mm user...doesn't seem to matter what springs are in the guns, brass is thrown measured in yards rather than feet... A 1911 in 9x23 Winchester will go just about as far with factory 1450 fps ammo...

The Mauser Broomhandle throws brass straight up....you can shoot, check the target, put your hand out and catch the brass on the way down...

armoredman
06-09-2022, 03:39 AM
I saw an 1911 throw an empty about 10,000 feet...but that's straight down after it hit the ocean. ;)

sharps4590
06-10-2022, 08:21 AM
I like jtarm's description...."bottom feeders"

I have bottom feeder's in 22, 25 ACP, 32 ACP, 380 ACP, 9mm Mak and 45 ACP. The 22's, I don't know how far they toss them. As much as I absolutely hate, despise, abhor and detest chasing brass I suspect all the others throw them into the next county to the south of me. Dent County...about 12 miles. Which explains why I sight in semi-auto's and put them in the safe where they live mostly unmolested lives. Ohhh...I forgot I have a P-38 from which I have fired maybe three magazines. I have yet to see a case on my back yard range so they must be in Dent County as well.

I'm getting more and more like Hossfly....with the exception of a S&W Schofield by Uberti.

TyGuy
06-10-2022, 10:36 AM
I like jtarm's description...."bottom feeders"
I have yet to see a case on my back yard range so they must be in Dent County as well.

I used to live in Dent County! Spent 4 years in Salem.

Kraschenbirn
06-10-2022, 12:08 PM
Dunno how far they went 'on the fly' but, yesterday, I swept up empties from my SIG365XL directly behind Station 1 of our 8-station pistol line...and I was shooting at Station 7.

Bill

sharps4590
06-10-2022, 12:47 PM
I used to live in Dent County! Spent 4 years in Salem.

Hey Ty, I don't believe they made it to Salem...no one I know there has said anything, however, I believe if a fella checked due south of me, just across the Phelps/Dent county line, they would find a pile of brass for the aforementioned cartridges......[smilie=1:

GooseGestapo
06-17-2022, 10:07 PM
Circa 1990, I had a S&W 1006. With Norma factory loads, it could hurt someone standing beside you. I sent a friend to the ER with a cut and burn from a case hitting him on the forehead standing 15feet beside me. Took 3 stitches to sew him up!
45-50feet? Yeah, sounds about right!

MSD MIke
06-22-2022, 09:05 PM
Not a handgun but my most impressive brass chucker is a Mini-14. Not sure if the bullet or brass go further.

Mike

Freightman
06-23-2022, 11:46 PM
8mm Egyptian Hakim it didn't throw brass in feet but in meters at least the brass landed in the same place 19 yds away. CZ 52 was also throwing brass in low earth orbit. TT33 is third in throwing brass.