Did they ever make a full wadcutter for .44 or .45?

[signalcorpsoperator]

Morning gents,

Just curious, do you any you happen to know, was there ever a full wadcutter made for the. 44 and .45 cal revolvers?

If so, does anyone have any mold numbers for them?

I'm going to be experimenting here soon with some .45 colt loads, and the idea of a full wadcutter sounds marvelous if such a creature exists...

Many thanks,
Tom

[JimB..]

I’ve got a box of Hornady WC ammo in 44, so to answer your question, yes. Sorry that I don’t have any additional informtion.

[Maven]

Tom, Lee Precision makes a mould for .44's and long ago B & M made one for that same caliber (It's a tack driver in my Ruger SBH), but I can't speak to the .45cal. offerings.

[gwpercle]

www.noebulletmoulds.com

In 44 cal . , NOE Mould Numbers ... the middle number is weight in grains .

432-107-WC PB
432-149-WC PB
432-153-WC PB
432-215-WC PB
432-226-WC PB

45 Cal. , NOE Mould Numbers ... middle number is weight in grains .
454-251-WC PB
454-264-WC PB
454-273-WC PB

All are Wadcutter designs with Plain Base's ( can be cut for gas checks and hollow points )

In case any 41 Magnum / 41 Special fans are out there ... they make:
412-140-WC PB and 413-215-WC PB .
I have the 215 WC and it is the most accurate boolit I've ever loaded in my
S&W model 58 41 Magnum ... if you have a 41 Magnum ... take a look at this one .
I didn't know about the 140 grain WC ... that looks like a perfect 41 Special target boolit !
Gary

[signalcorpsoperator]

Hey there everyone,

Very good on all counts, so they definitely do exist!!!

I'll take a look at the NOE offerings, I've heard excellent things about the molds they sell, could be fun to work up a few loads with a "jumbo" full wadcutter!!

Appreciate the information here gents!!

Tom

[JoeJames]

Matt's Bullets - Highland, AR makes 'em. Might want to try them first to see if they are what you want. They make 'em up to a .430 250 grain WC.

[45DUDE]

I am assuming you cast. I have a 452460 mold I had reamed out longer and ended up with a .245 gr. wad cutter that works good. It groups plenty good at 25 yards but haven't had the time to go longer. A good machine operator should be able to close the mold and measure and make longer. The nose will be the o.d. of the inside lube grooves and longer and almost flat on the end. It should be real easy with an aluminum mold and low cost. Mine will also work in a 45acp but I had to trim the slide stop a little to keep the nose from rubbing on the first boolit installing the magazine. It's not a true wad cutter. I would show a photo but for some reason I can't post a photo on this forum. I have no problem on others. My shooting buddy just bought some dewc's for his 44 mag.

[oldsalt444]

+1 on Matt's Bullets. Quality bullets and fast delivery. They will size bullets to your specs. They're a smaller boutique operation, so their prices are a bit higher.

https://www.mattsbullets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=71&products_id=296&zenid=43tjb42cpg5emsrf699t54bo95
https://www.mattsbullets.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=70&products_id=339&zenid=43tjb42cpg5emsrf699t54bo95

[Gamsek]

https://www.mp-molds.com/product/mp-432-hollow-base-wad-cutter-4-cavity-mold/

https://www.mp-molds.com/product/mp-452-hollow-base-wad-cutter-4-cavity-mold/

They exist. Not in stock. Use blank pins and you get FWC

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220502/2b447c2ffccc2f9171f3cc8811a02980.jpg

[high standard 40]

Tom at Accurate Molds lists several.

[DocSavage]

I've a Saeco mold that casts 255 gr wadcutter that version is a custom mold now I think but a 230 gr version was in their catalogue at one time.

[Walks]

Lee #429-208-WC was made back about 25+ years ago in a 2cav, and about 12yrs ago in a 6cav as a Group Buy here. An excellent bullet.
Saeco #453 is a .452 - 225gr WC, it's the best bullet for .45 Auto Rim.
Lyman has also made .44 & .45 cal WC in the past too.
If you "cruise" ebay long & hard enough they will eventually turn up.
The #429348 -180grs & #454309 - 235grs.

[derek45]

Matt's Bullets - Highland, AR makes 'em. Might want to try them first to see if they are what you want. They make 'em up to a .430 250 grain WC.

you beat me to it.

Matt's is good to go !

https://www.mattsbullets.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=70&zenid=vjds1cfh6l48f2572pe2jkn5a0

https://www.mattsbullets.com/images/Img_7466.jpg

[sukivel]

https://www.mp-molds.com/product/mp-432-hollow-base-wad-cutter-4-cavity-mold/

https://www.mp-molds.com/product/mp-452-hollow-base-wad-cutter-4-cavity-mold/

They exist. Not in stock. Use blank pins and you get FWC

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220502/2b447c2ffccc2f9171f3cc8811a02980.jpg

Do you ever turn those hollow base bullets around and act as a hollowpoint?


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[Gamsek]

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Yes, they were tried as HP. That design fly straight.
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[Shepherd2]

I had Accurate Molds make a .44 caliber WC mould for me. He has several designs on his website.

[LenH]

Lyman 454-309 roughly 235 gr with the original Lyman #2 (95-5-5). I always used. Wheel weights so the weight was a bit different. Great bullet.

[Sasquatch-1]

I do take a round nose .430 solid base 250 grn. slug and reshape it in a swaging die to a wad cutter. I have been doing it for many years now. Works very well at our 2x4 shoot.

[Forrest r]

Never used that many wc's in the 45cal's but tried several 44cal wc's over the decades. Here's a picture of the last 5 I used to cast/use/shoot.
https://i.imgur.com/iMopAGs.jpg?3

top left: lee 162gr button nosed wc
top center: special run 175gr double ended wc
top right: cramer nose pour 200gr type III wc
bottom left: Mihec 220gr hbwc (same mold as gamsec's)
bottom right: lyman 429352 245gr type III wc

Since taking the picture above I sold the 162gr, 175gr & 245gr molds. I still use the 220gr hbwc and the 200gr wc.

That cramer nose pour 200gr wc is the most accurate wc I've ever used in the 44cal's. Typical 25yd 6-shot groups.
https://i.imgur.com/Odat3uD.jpg

Might not hurt to look at the different type III wc molds that are out there while you're at it.

[signalcorpsoperator]

Hey there gents,

WOW! Thanks very much for all the information, and the photos also. I'll make a few notes about some of these mold numbers, and will start keeping an eye out for them.

Really appreciate the help!

Thanks again,
Tom

[Jack Stanley]

H&G made them when they were still in business . If I remember the number right it was the 107 for the .44 caliber different weight were designated by A , B or C lightest to heaviest . I bought a six cavity years ago and it was just great and making piles of bullets .

Jack

[PhatForrest]

I love my 240gr type 3 wadcutter mold from Accurate. Perform like a wadcutter, load like a regular boolit, and function in both revolvers and leverguns.

[Martin Luber]

Take a SWC and seat it backwards. Reduce the charge a lot from target load levels and work back up.

It has reduced internal case capacity.

[fredj338]

Lee used to make one for 44, sold it. Plenty of choices from accurate, though i think a swc does the same thing on paper & is a bit more versatile.

[DougGuy]

Hey there gents,

WOW! Thanks very much for all the information, and the photos also. I'll make a few notes about some of these mold numbers, and will start keeping an eye out for them.

Really appreciate the help!

Thanks again,
Tom

You REALLY should ask for some samples cast from molds you think you might like and give them a try before jumping off the deep end. Members here are typically very helpful when someone is getting started, you may learn a few things you didn't expect once shooting the boolits from the mold you are wanting to buy, bar any unfortunate surprises, you would get to see just how your guns handle a particular sample.

What guns will you shoot these from? And next question of course, have you looked over the forcing cone, and checked the cylinder throats to learn what size they are? This alone will make a sizeable difference in the results you get when they are sized correctly.

[WRideout]

I am assuming you cast. I have a 452460 mold I had reamed out longer and ended up with a .245 gr. wad cutter that works good. It groups plenty good at 25 yards but haven't had the time to go longer. A good machine operator should be able to close the mold and measure and make longer. The nose will be the o.d. of the inside lube grooves and longer and almost flat on the end. It should be real easy with an aluminum mold and low cost. Mine will also work in a 45acp but I had to trim the slide stop a little to keep the nose from rubbing on the first boolit installing the magazine. It's not a true wad cutter. I would show a photo but for some reason I can't post a photo on this forum. I have no problem on others. My shooting buddy just bought some dewc's for his 44 mag.

You should do penance after committing the sacrilege of modifying that excellent mold!

Wayne