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BrentD
01-23-2009, 09:44 AM
I posted this on the Shiloh site but thought it might be appropriate here too.

On the last evening of this year's deer season I was desperate enough that I took my ugly gun. It is an underhammer muzzleloader. .45 caliber, with an 18-twist Badger barrel. It is a special purpose "bean field" gun and I was going to hunt a bean field so it seemed appropriate.

Anyway, in the last minute of the season, 6 does and fawns ran out into the field from the North. My postdoc who had never yet shot a deer tried a shot from the east side. He missed judged the range and missed by a lot. Those deer ran to the west and my left and stopped 200 yds out on the edge of the field. They were prancing and fidgeting and about the leave when I pulled the trigger on one of the larger does.

So the real purpose of this story is to show you what happens when a deer gets hit with a 475 gr paper patched flatnosed bullet backed by 106 grs of Swiss 1.5 fg. The pictures are pretty self explanatory. I use these same bullet in all of my .45 caliber cartridge rifles, though usually I make them heavier. The bullet was either 40:1 or pure lead. I would wager on 40:1 though.

Bullet hit left shoulder blade, exited perfectly perpendicular on the same spot on the right shoulder. Two ribs were centered and shattered, and both lungs where hit but not the heart or a whole lot of major plumbing. The deer ran like a greyhound for 150 yds in deep snow before falling twice, and the last time expiring. I don't think I have ever seen a deer run as fast and low as this one did.

I have shot deer with this rifle at much shorter ranges, 10-30 yds, and only gotten quarter-sized holes.


Entrance hole (pencil)
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~jessie/PPB/Deer/entrance%20hole.jpg

Exit hole (pencil eraser)
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~jessie/PPB/Deer/exit%20hole.jpg

Left (entrance) side ribs
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~jessie/PPB/Deer/left%20ribs.jpg

Right (exit) side rib cage
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~jessie/PPB/Deer/right%20ribs.jpg

Right (exit) shoulder blade. It is not only holed, it is pretty well shattered. The left side shoulder blade was also holed and shattered.
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~jessie/PPB/Deer/right%20shoulder%20blade.jpg

Brent

DLCTEX
01-23-2009, 11:03 AM
Better try for head shots in the future. You sure that one hadn't been hit by a truck? It sure makes you appreciate their toughness, being able to go that far after a hit like that.

MT Gianni
01-23-2009, 12:22 PM
Bone mass makes a real mess when it is moving at the same velocity as the bullet. It doesn't look like there was much blood in the body cavity with what is in the tissue.

Digital Dan
01-23-2009, 02:09 PM
Gianni, I shot a doe last year with a 300 gr. pure lead patched bullet out of a S/S 77/44 at about 70 yards. Broke both upper legs and took the plumbing off the top of the heart. Retained about 280 grains, bullet found under the hide on the off side. She ran about 30 yards before piling up in a blackberry thicket...in the rain....oh joy.....

The damage to surrounding meat was not as great as your photos indicate but there was a fair mess on both sides of the rib cage with two shattered ribs on the close side and three on the off side. My bullets leave the house about 1600 fps with a BC of ~.240. Made one heckuva "Whack!" when it hit the mark. Broken bone chunks do add a lot of carnage to the fray.