Quick Load Data

[71/84Mauser]

I have been using this forum for over 15 years. I can usually get all the answers to My questions using the search button, however I am Coming up empty on my most recent endeavor…

I have a rifle in 11.2x60 Schüler. It’s a rebated rim version of the 11.15x60R, better known as the 11mm Mauser or 43 Mauser. I am looking for load data for this higher pressure round and can only find low pressure data for the BPCR rimmed version. I am looking for about level 2 lever action 45/70 pressure loads.

Does anyone have Quick Load that can help me out?

If so what info would you need from me to plug in to your computer?

.446” grove, 1:14 twist.
Looking to shoot some of the Lyman 44-370-FN powder coated, as well as 300gr to 400gr “J word” boolits that will stabilize.

Thank you very much for your help!

[earlmck]

Looks like QL has your cartridge listed as 11.2X60 Mauser/Schueler. If I had bullet weight and length and cartridge COAL and powder to use I could get you something to play around with...

[71/84Mauser]

Earlmck,

That would be great thank you very much!

Bullet weight - Lengths - COL :
400gr lead - 1.040” - COL 2.975”
400gr J Word - 1.005” - COL 2.875”
300gr J Word - .820 - COL 2.765”

Powders:
3031 - 20#
H414 - 7#
IMR 7977 - 8#
4064 - 22#
IMR 4895 - 10#
2400 - 9#
WC872 - 40#

[P Flados]

I went looking and found "level 2 lever action 45/70 pressure" to be 28000 psi (Paco Kelly) or 40000 cup (several places, but useless info given there is no conversion to psi)

The default allowed pressure in Quickload for the 11.2 x 60 Mauser/Schueler is higher than the above.

You did not give barrel length, I guessed 24".


Cartridge : 11.2 x 60 Mauser/Schueler
Bullet : 405 Cast
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.975 inch = 75.57 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Matching Maximum Pressure: 28000 psi or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
IMR 3031 88.0 54.7 3.54 1913 98.0 28000 4817 1.693
IMR 4895 87.2 58.0 3.76 1891 91.0 28000 4925 1.709
Hodgdon H414 92.9 65.3 4.23 1867 82.7 28000 4947 1.709
IMR 4064 89.3 56.0 3.63 1835 89.9 28000 4479 1.722
IMR 7977 Enduron *C*T 107.0 70.3 4.56 1698 65.2 28000 3799 1.772
Alliant 2400 49.6 31.3 2.03 1664 100.0 28000 2809 1.792
Hodgdon H870 112.0 76.9 4.98 1454 50.2 17821 3483 2.176


Now if you want to load to pressures based on the Quickload allowed pressures for the 11.2 x 60 Mauser/Schueler,
I ran a table set for 35000 psi.

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
IMR 3031 94.7 58.8 3.81 2050 99.6 35000 5071 1.537 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 93.6 62.2 4.03 2034 94.4 35000 5330 1.551 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 99.3 69.8 4.52 2017 87.2 35000 5423 1.546 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 96.1 60.3 3.91 1974 93.4 35000 4867 1.564 ! Near Maximum !

[P Flados]

I could not find a correct diameter 300 gr, so I grabbed something close and ran it at the higher pressure.

I could make more runs, but would prefer you to narrow down the scope and/or improve the inputs a little.



Cartridge : 11.2 x 60 Mauser/Schueler
Bullet : .452, 300, Hornady XTP MAG 45235
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.765 inch = 70.23 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm

Predicted Data for Maximum Pressure: 35000 psi, or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %

These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
IMR 3031 101.6 63.6 4.12 2340 96.6 35000 5220 1.349 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 100.4 67.2 4.35 2305 88.8 35000 5239 1.364 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 105.2 74.5 4.83 2241 79.4 35000 5064 1.377 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 102.7 64.9 4.20 2235 87.6 35000 4757 1.377 ! Near Maximum !

[71/84Mauser]

That’s great! I need to get the disc one of these days and be able to do all of this cool stuff. Thank you very much for the help. That’s why I love this forum, everyone I have come in contact with has been nothing but willing to help.

35k psi is just fine with me the K98 action will be able to more than handle that.

[71/84Mauser]

Sorry about not mentioning the barrel length. You had a Pretty good guess. The barrel is 26”, close enough for me.

[71/84Mauser]

I am Not sure how the software works, just let me know info you need from me.

[71/84Mauser]

I do have another request…. can you run the 405gr Cast with 50 BMG powder such as Hodgdon H870 or Accurate Arms AA8700 please?

[P Flados]

I did run H870, look at the last row in the lower pressure 405 gr cast boolit table.

It only got to 17800 psi with 112% fill, so no point in running any other combinations with this powder.

Basically this means to stuff as much as you can in the case, and expect poor burning (very dirty). If you want to use milsurp and get better results, then get a faster milsurp or play with duplexing. The duplexing goal would typically be to add just enough faster powder to get it to burn clean enough for your liking.

[Texas by God]

Is this a commercial Orbendorf 98 Mauser sporter or a custom built on a 98 action? Regardless- we'd like to see pics of gun and cartridge, please.

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[71/84Mauser]

Thank you I did try some duplex loads today.


WC872 66gr + 3gr Kicker of WWII German 8mm powder I have laying around. Got avg bel of 1,536fps for 11 shot string.

Maybe 5 unburied kernels at the end of the 11 shots. Otherwise it shot clean to me.


I did run H870, look at the last row in the lower pressure 405 gr cast boolit table.

It only got to 17800 psi with 112% fill, so no point in running any other combinations with this powder.

Basically this means to stuff as much as you can in the case, and expect poor burning (very dirty). If you want to use milsurp and get better results, then get a faster milsurp or play with duplexing. The duplexing goal would typically be to add just enough faster powder to get it to burn clean enough for your liking.

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[71/84Mauser]

This rifle was pieced together and this round was resurrected from the history books.

I have long been obsessed with the 43 Mauser (11.15x60R) and the 1871 as well as the 71/84 rifles. I stumbled upon the 11.2x60 Schüler by happen chance. Noticed it was very similar dimensionally to the 43 Mauser. The Schüler being a .401”. I found a 44-77 barrel, .446” grove, 1:17 twist. Which worked out great now I can use my Lee 43 Mauser dies for all the brass.

I had some magnum brass cut down with a lathe to match the rim of a 8x57 case, custom brass also made by RCC, reamer and gauges custom designed with the help of Dave at Pacific Tool & Gauge.

The receiver is a Commercial Mauser receiver I had laying around from years ago, figured this would be a great time to use it.

The mounts are BOROM 30mm QD mounts.

Timber trigger

PT&G 3 position safety

US Stock

All the machine and gunsmithing work done by Mike Cramer in Texas. I can complement the man enough he does EXCELLENT work.

[71/84Mauser]

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[71/84Mauser]

For J words I have been staging down .458” rounds.

Several steps in an ol reliable RCBS Rock Chucker.

.452”

.448”

.446”

.444” - because I found there is .002” spring back with J word’s

[charlie b]

What a great project, and, a beautiful rifle. The QD mounts are great as well.

[Texas by God]

Thank you for the pics, what an intriguing beauty. And welcome to the forum. I once had a reprint of a Mauser catalog and I seem to remember that cartridge being an option.
Nevertheless, neat!

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[71/84Mauser]

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Range report. Seems like I’m getting things dialed in. Thank you to everyone with the Quick Load Data!

[71/84Mauser]

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Not sure what happened with shots #1 and #4. Most likely it was me.

[P Flados]

Thank you I did try some duplex loads today.


WC872 66gr + 3gr Kicker of WWII German 8mm powder I have laying around. Got avg bel of 1,536fps for 11 shot string.

Maybe 5 unburied kernels at the end of the 11 shots. Otherwise it shot clean to me.

With QL predicting only 1450 fps at 112% fill, your kicker seems to given you a nice boost in speed :bigsmyl2:

Given how much powder this cartridge consumes, being able to use WC 872 brings the cost per round way down.

And yes, thanks for all the photos and the report on how it shot.

[P Flados]

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Range report. Seems like I’m getting things dialed in. Thank you to everyone with the Quick Load Data!

Your 3031 load looks to shoot nice. I went ahead and ran a 3031 specific QL table for your "custom" 400 gr J Word (I was wondering where you found some and then you fessed up on doing it the hard way). It looks like you are getting approx 100 fps more velocity than QL predicted. Likely causes are typically either a hot batch of powder, or a case capacity that is less than what QL has loaded by default.

If you take a fired case, put it on a digital scale, tare the scale and then fill it with water and weigh it again you can get the case capacity in grains of water. QL is using 89 grains for a case that is 2.370" long.



Cartridge : 11.2 x 60 Mauser/Schueler
Bullet : 0.446 x 1.005” sized J Word
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.875 inch = 73.03 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : IMR 3031

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 1.058% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-10.6 78 46.50 1743 2699 22394 3687 94.5 1.977
-09.5 78 47.05 1762 2758 23014 3734 94.9 1.954
-08.5 79 47.60 1781 2816 23652 3780 95.4 1.931
-07.4 80 48.15 1799 2875 24309 3825 95.8 1.908
-06.3 81 48.70 1818 2935 24982 3869 96.2 1.886
-05.3 82 49.25 1836 2995 25676 3911 96.5 1.864
-04.2 83 49.80 1855 3055 26388 3953 96.9 1.842
-03.2 84 50.35 1873 3116 27121 3993 97.2 1.821
-02.1 85 50.90 1891 3177 27875 4032 97.5 1.800
-01.1 86 51.45 1910 3239 28649 4070 97.8 1.779
+00.0 87 52.00 1928 3301 29446 4106 98.1 1.759
+01.1 88 52.55 1946 3364 30266 4141 98.4 1.739
+02.1 89 53.10 1964 3426 31109 4175 98.6 1.719 ! Near Maximum !
+03.2 89 53.65 1982 3489 31975 4207 98.8 1.699 ! Near Maximum !
+04.2 90 54.20 2000 3553 32867 4238 99.0 1.680 ! Near Maximum !
+05.3 91 54.75 2018 3617 33783 4268 99.2 1.661 ! Near Maximum !

[71/84Mauser]

I am currently using two types of brass:

1) RCC custom brass
- empty weight
-254gr
- water weight
- 84.5gr

2) various Magnum brass with the belts removed and the case head cut down
- empty weight
- 227gr
- water weight
- 85.4 ( no that’s not a type-o the last two numbers are supposed to be flipped from the above brass)

They are cut to a case length of 2.385”

I use the RCC brass for the J Word bullets

I use the cut down brass for the Boolits.

I also have the Magneto Speed bayonet chrono so it gets the velocity right at the muzzle. Perhaps that’s another reason?

[71/84Mauser]

P Flados,

I am also getting some 500gr J words from Hawk soon. Once they arrive and I can get the length for you do you think you could do me another run on your QL software? For subsonic as well as super sonic loads. I would like to use the 500gr with my suppressor just because…. Why not. Haha

[P Flados]

I loaded your numbers for the custom brass and velocity increased up to 1973 for the reference load (half way to your values). QL is predicting muzzle velocity, so your numbers do not need any adjusting.

For now, just expect that you will get the pressures and velocities for a charge that is 1.5 gr higher than what you use. This actually puts you just over the QL listed max pressure. This is probably overly conservative for pressure prediction but it would take some fancy equipment to find out for real.



Cartridge : 11.2 x 60 Mauser/Schueler
Bullet : 0.446 x 1.009 - 400 sized J Word
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.875 inch = 73.03 mm
Case length / capacity: 2.385" / 84.5 gr water
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Powder : IMR 3031

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge, incremented in steps.

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms
-09.8 83 46.00 1764 2765 24235 3618 94.8 1.916
-08.8 84 46.50 1782 2820 24882 3660 95.2 1.894
-07.8 85 47.00 1800 2876 25546 3700 95.6 1.873
-06.9 85 47.50 1817 2933 26227 3739 96.0 1.852
-05.9 86 48.00 1835 2989 26928 3777 96.4 1.831
-04.9 87 48.50 1852 3047 27648 3814 96.7 1.811
-03.9 88 49.00 1869 3104 28388 3850 97.0 1.791
-02.9 89 49.50 1887 3162 29149 3885 97.4 1.771
-02.0 90 50.00 1904 3220 29930 3919 97.6 1.751
-01.0 91 50.50 1921 3279 30733 3951 97.9 1.732
+00.0 92 51.00 1939 3338 31560 3983 98.2 1.713 ! Near Maximum !
+01.0 93 51.50 1956 3398 32408 4013 98.4 1.694 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 94 52.00 1973 3457 33281 4042 98.6 1.675 ! Near Maximum !
+02.9 94 52.50 1990 3517 34179 4070 98.8 1.657 ! Near Maximum !
+03.9 95 53.00 2007 3578 35101 4097 99.0 1.639 ! Near Maximum !
+04.9 96 53.50 2024 3638 36051 4122 99.2 1.621 ! Over Maximum !

[71/84Mauser]

Thank you!

The pressure is not too much of a concern with me as the action can take way more than 45K even with the large diameter boolits and the smaller, proportionate to boolit size, bolt face. I think it’s references as bolt thrust or something like that I have it written down in one of my notebooks somewhere here….

[P Flados]

There are actually 3 considerations. Bolt thrust is usually limiting, but you can run into trouble with hoop stress if your barrel wall is not thick enough. Some guns are limited by breech face yield strength (single shot rifles with shotgun based receivers for example).

Bolt thrust is based on case ID and can be tricky. However, a simple evaluation would look as follows.

Lets assume the case ID near the base is 0.045" less than the OD and not credit brass friction in the chamber (well lubricated case, smooth camber). Lets say your action is good for the 270 Winchester that is rated for 65000 psi. Your base OD is 0.516" (I think), the 270 base is 470". The ratio of ID areas is 1.23. Using the above numbers, your gun will see the same bolt thrust at 53000 psi as the 270 does at 65000 psi.

Note that QL predicts around 2250 fps from a 400 gr with 3031 or 4895 if you stuff the case full enough to reach 53000 psi. A 400 gr at 2050 fps sounds like a shoulder beater. I doubt that I would have any interest in pushing further.

[71/84Mauser]

There are actually 3 considerations. Bolt thrust is usually limiting, but you can run into trouble with hoop stress if your barrel wall is not thick enough. Some guns are limited by breech face yield strength (single shot rifles with shotgun based receivers for example).

Bolt thrust is based on case ID and can be tricky. However, a simple evaluation would look as follows.

Lets assume the case ID near the base is 0.045" less than the OD and not credit brass friction in the chamber (well lubricated case, smooth camber). Lets say your action is good for the 270 Winchester that is rated for 65000 psi. Your base OD is 0.516" (I think), the 270 base is 470". The ratio of ID areas is 1.23. Using the above numbers, your gun will see the same bolt thrust at 53000 psi as the 270 does at 65000 psi.

Note that QL predicts around 2250 fps from a 400 gr with 3031 or 4895 if you stuff the case full enough to reach 53000 psi. A 400 gr at 2050 fps sounds like a shoulder beater. I doubt that I would have any interest in pushing further.

That is great information! I never had the formula before. I will have to bookmark this.

I have ZERO interest in getting a 400gr projectile up to 2200fps. I am not a speed addict, slow and accurate works just fine for me.
I am more interested in keeping my rifle in 1 piece and not pushing things to the razors edge.

I will most likely shoot many thousands more of the Boolits compared to the J words out of this rifle.

You have truly been very helpful and a pleasure to meet thank you for all the information I greatly appreciate it!

[71/84Mauser]

500gr J words showed up they are 1.355” long.

I have lots of powders to choose from more than what was listed earlier. Pistol shotgun and rifle powder, however I only have 50 projectiles to work with so I can’t waste too many looking for a nice load combo.

Do you think you can run QL numbers for me on subsonic, around 1050fps, as well as super sonic loads around 35-40K psi?

[P Flados]

You did not list COAL, and the bullet length may change when sized down.

I ran some numbers anyway.



Cartridge : 11.2 x 60 Mauser/Schueler
Bullet : .446 x 1.355 sized 500 gr J Word
Case length / capacity: 2.385" / 84.5 gr water
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.975 inch = 75.57 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges Matching Maximum Pressure: 35000 psi, or 241 MPa

C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
--------------------------------- -----------------------------------------------------------------
IMR 3031 94.2 44.5 2.88 1724 99.7 35000 3407 1.858 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895 93.3 47.1 3.05 1710 94.6 35000 3631 1.877 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414 99.1 52.9 3.43 1696 87.2 35000 3710 1.873 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064 95.7 45.6 2.96 1655 93.5 35000 3308 1.905 ! Near Maximum !





Cartridge : 11.2 x 60 Mauser/Schueler
Bullet : .446 x 1.355 sized 500 gr J Word
Case length / capacity: 2.385" / 84.5 gr water
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.975 inch = 75.57 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges Matching Muzzle Velocity: 1050 fps

C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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IMR 4895 54.9 27.8 1.80 1050 70.2 11134 1782 3.137
IMR 4064 57.8 27.6 1.79 1050 71.1 11802 1698 3.014
Alliant 2400 32.4 15.6 1.01 1050 99.8 13489 1362 3.003
Hodgdon H414 60.5 32.3 2.10 1050 60.6 11280 1729 3.076
IMR 3031 53.6 25.3 1.64 1050 78.4 10708 1770 3.061

[71/84Mauser]

Great thank you very much!

I just purchased QL hoping it arrives from Germany quick so I can stop bugging you!

Hopefully my last request,
With the subsonic loads it looks like the fill ratio of the powders seem a little low to me. Is there a way to show all powders to see which other ones I can use? Or do you need a specific list from me?

[P Flados]

For subsonic in a big case, low fill ratio is a given.

Trying to maximize fill usually ends up running powders at pressures way below where they work good.

Ignoring fill percent and going for an easy to ignite faster powder that gets a mid-range chamber pressure sounds like a better option.

Here are faster powders for subsonic 500 gr loads



Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Alliant RED DOT 48.1 12.1 0.78 1050 100.0 28547 920 2.592
Hodgdon Universal 39.0 12.7 0.82 1050 100.0 24837 940 2.674
Maxam CSB 4 44.9 12.8 0.83 1050 100.0 28038 907 2.586
Hodgdon Clays 52.4 12.6 0.82 1050 100.0 31882 895 2.530 ! Near Maximum !
Maxam CSB 5 46.4 12.7 0.83 1050 100.0 30313 896 2.554
Maxam CSB 3 44.9 13.1 0.85 1050 100.0 27129 906 2.602
Winchester WAP 31.1 13.7 0.89 1050 100.0 21122 973 2.729
Ramshot Silhouette 31.1 13.7 0.89 1050 100.0 21247 972 2.727
Alliant UNIQUE 37.8 12.3 0.80 1050 100.0 21697 971 2.745
Maxam CSB 2 43.2 13.3 0.86 1050 100.0 26813 905 2.631
Vihtavuori N310 42.3 12.4 0.81 1050 100.0 32043 878 2.534 ! Near Maximum !
Norma R1 52.5 13.4 0.87 1050 100.0 30553 903 2.563
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 67.2 16.9 1.10 1050 100.0 32318 863 2.542 ! Near Maximum !
IMR TrailBoss 99.4 16.9 1.10 1050 100.0 30872 874 2.556 ! Near Maximum !
Accurate No.2 37.7 12.6 0.82 1050 100.0 22119 959 2.727
Accurate Solo 1250 43.7 13.2 0.85 1050 100.0 25657 915 2.627
Lovex S011 37.7 12.9 0.84 1050 100.0 26615 912 2.613
Lovex S020 37.3 13.1 0.85 1050 100.0 23909 931 2.673
Lovex S035 43.2 13.6 0.88 1050 100.0 22416 942 2.707
Lovex S030 37.4 13.2 0.85 1050 100.0 23490 935 2.684
Vihtavuori N350 37.3 13.7 0.89 1050 100.0 19636 988 2.770
Vihtavuori N330 39.6 13.1 0.85 1050 100.0 25512 921 2.643
Vihtavuori N340 39.4 13.2 0.85 1050 100.0 22963 941 2.689
Vihtavuori N320 43.1 12.8 0.83 1050 100.0 28268 898 2.592
Maxam CSB 1 46.2 13.7 0.89 1050 100.0 26083 895 2.621
Vihtavuori 3N37 35.4 13.8 0.89 1050 100.0 19285 998 2.786
Ramshot Zip 31.6 13.4 0.87 1050 100.0 25840 923 2.630
Winchester 231 35.2 13.4 0.87 1050 100.0 25840 923 2.630
Hodgdon HP38 31.7 13.4 0.87 1050 100.0 26251 919 2.622
Hodgdon TiteGroup 32.3 13.3 0.86 1050 100.0 28675 905 2.582

[71/84Mauser]

Once again thank you very much! I will let you know how the field tests turn out once I have a free day to get to the range!

[71/84Mauser]

Incase anyone is still paying attention to this thread, here is another range report. I haven’t had much free time lately and finally was able to sneak away quickly to shoot a 10 Shot group.

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[rupe01]

Don't forget that there is also Gordon's Reloading Tool for those poor enough not to be able to afford QuickLoad. Not to detract from QL as it is fantastic and i have my own copy, but GRT has become a fantastic professional alternative.

[71/84Mauser]

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It has been a while, however I finally made it out to the range.
The target shows a 100 Yard group.
Sierra Sports Master 300gr sized down to .446"
IMR-3031
-60gr
Remington 9 1/2 LR Primer
moving at a 10 shot average of 2406fps


I am not sure why the other images of the Boolit Loads did not attach correctly, I will have to re take those pictured and upload them again here soon.



Thank you to everyone for your help.


I also am still not really sure how to use QL there does not seem to be many tutorial videos on how to use the program..... anyone with experience willing to show me a few things? i would be greatly appreciative!

[71/84Mauser]

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Here is the load I developed with Bear Creek Bullets sized .447". After this group I noticed the front scope base needed a little more tension. I suspect that is why this group is so large. :-?

[Texas by God]

The accuracy of " Elephant rifles" continues to amaze me. Good shooting.

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[Polymath]

Found some load data from COTW May help to give you a base line.
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[71/84Mauser]

That’s some cool data from COTW book! That 3031 load data is vastly different glad I had someone with QL to help with load development.

For the 400gr “Condom” boolits I’m using 52gr 3031 for an average of 2036fps