The Most Accurate 8mm Mauser Rifle

[Eddie1971]

What do you all think the most accurate 8mm rifle is? Is there one you have had that you would call king? I may be in the minority but I got to say my 1888 Commission Rifles outshoot any Gewher 98, or K98 variant I have ever had. This includes using cast or J bullets.

[WinchesterM1]

I have a Bosnian war sniper Yugo m48 that shoots 1moa with 200grn SMK. But I have several K98s that shoot 2-3 MOA with boolits which is okay with me.
My Hiakim shoots around 1.5 with 200smks so does my ZF-41 Nazi sniper if you can get used to the tiny scope

But I would say the Yugo M48s just off the shelf I think are the most accurate

[El Gato]

My Persian CZ 98/29 outshoots my Gew 1888 but not by much... The Gew 1888 is highly underrated by some folks.

[cwlongshot]

I have a sporterized K98 wafin marks and all. Gun smith turned barrel 20" shoots Sierra 175's with stiff load of 4064 1" or better if you do your part!

Yet to receive a single, Complaint ;) from any critter I have shot! More then a few bang flops.

CW

[Streetwalker]

I would have to agree with WinchesterM1 that Yugo M48's are the most accurate 8mm rifle, across the board, along with the Czech VZ 24 variants. However, THE most accurate 8mm I own, or have owned, is an as-issued DOT1943 98K, especially with cast bullets in the 200 gr. weight range. I once came across a bunch of German issue 1938 mfg. ammo that grouped wonderfully when I did my part with the afore-mentioned 98k. After I found out how well that ammo shot, I stashed the rest of it away. I've also been impressed with how well Turkish 8mm Mauser's grouped, that is, if they had decent bores.

[beemer]

I have shot several and most are not bad, if fact some really surprised me. The one I remember best was a WW1 98 that was bought out of a barrel at the hardware store sometime in the 60"s. The thing must have been the first black rifle, other than a few minor pits the bore was good. Overall, it was a solid rifle. We had several boxes of some old European military ammo. My buddy I shot several 5 shot groups at 100 yards, most could be covered with a quarter. We then cleaned it and returned to the old guy that bought it out of the barrel 50 years ago and never fired it.

[cwtebay]

Tough to beat a 98 for accuracy, but the Hakim has to be the most consistently accurate semi auto ever made in that caliber. One could even go as far to say that an average use Hakim would outperform an average use 98.

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[Eddie1971]

I totally forgot the Hakim guys and you are right. They are crazy accurate as well. First on my list is the Gew 1888, but then again it can be disqualified because it uses a different round in a way - the Patrone 88..... :D

[wilecoyote]

... I haven't had many, but in all my K98k I always have specifically handloaded for each.
I have a VZ24 produced during the German occupation which seems to me to be particularly accurate.
for sure it is a Romanian contract, and with a particularly sweet trigger, but no one has ever been able to definitively certify whether the I.O.R. they mount are typical of WW2 or post war snipers.

[racepres]

The Most Accurate 8mm Mauser Rifle
A Steyr Solothern, But... That is cheating... it ain't an 8X57... it is a 7X57...
for 8X57, I gotta go with the Yugo M48...or sometimes, when yer lucky, an M24-47

[Tedly]

Czech M98/22 hands down . Cast or jacketed

[racepres]

Czech M98/22 hands down . Cast or jacketed

Could Easy be the way of it also... unfortunately, I only have 98/22's that are No Longer 8mm..

[Texas by God]

Based on my experience;
1. Tikka T3
2. E.R. Shaw barreled Arisaka
3. Tie between the Hakim and the 48 Yugo Mauser
You didn’t specify milsurp 8mms…….
Like many folks,most of my 98 Mausers got rebarreled.

[cwtebay]

Well heck, if we're not going milsurp - Sako's line in 8x57 has to be way up there!

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[Bad Ass Wallace]

My vote would be the Portuguese Vergueiro M1904, these rifles were originally in 6.5calibre but were returned to Germany in 1937, rebored and "cut rifled" to 8x57mm. My rifle has a pristine bore and I load a Saeco 190gn cast boolit.

[pworley1]

My 98/29 shoots best for me.

[Eddie1971]

Based on my experience;
1. Tikka T3
2. E.R. Shaw barreled Arisaka
3. Tie between the Hakim and the 48 Yugo Mauser
You didn’t specify milsurp 8mms…….
Like many folks,most of my 98 Mausers got rebarreled.

Can you still get the Tikka in 8mm? Last I saw they don't offer it anymore. I see the Zastava also dropped it from their M76 bolt too.

[Texas by God]

No, I think that the only metric European cartridge they offer anymore is the 6.5 Swedish. The 8mm J is basically the grandaddy of all rimless cartridges, In my opinion.

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[Kraschenbirn]

Of my four military M98s in 8x57 the most accurate is, believe it or not, a 1943 Turk, followed closely by a near-mint M48 Yugo, a VZ24, and, lagging to the rear, a late-war Steyr-Daimler 98k.

Bill

[todd9.3x57]

believe or not, out of all the guns i have, there is one 8x57!!!!! and to top it all off, its never been fired to me!!!!


1944 98 Mauser with an aperture sight and Richard's walnut stock.
https://i.imgur.com/tI7aTeB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yWAYSpw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mRsnspc.jpg

[Adam Helmer]

Eddie1971,

Asking which is the "Most accurate 8mm Mauser rifle" needs to be qualified. Are you asking about a new issued arm, what ammunition is used and what about the skill of the shooter? If you define your terms, I will add my experience over the years since 1958, when I began collecting 8MM Mausers.
Be well.

Adam

[Eddie Southgate]

Yugo M48's and Czech VZ 24's have generally given me all I would ever expect from a Military Mauser . The absolute most accurate 8mm Mauser I ever owned was a cigarette rifle built on a 1916 Lowe Berlin rifle . They used the original stock trimmed up as nice as any I ever seen with a barrel band thru the stock for the front swivel , original barrel with three blade express rear sight and a nicely ramped front . Double set triggers that gave an excellent pull unset and target light when set . Checkered steel butt plate , steel grip cap and the sling retracted into the butt . Unfortunately I sold it years ago .

[BadgerShooter]

I have a G33-40 that someone thoughtfully "customized" at some point, It's ugly, but the handiest most accurate 8mm I have which includes 3 Yugo's. Just started messing with cast bullets in it. It shoots a Saeco 8mm sub inch at 50 yards. Haven't tried it at longer ranges yet.

[Texas by God]

I had a "cigarette" sporter based on a Danzig 98 that had double set triggers, a 2 leaf rear sight, a 4x Gerard scope in claw mounts. It was a delight to shoot offhand with my brother and I hitting beer cans at 100 yards consistently. When we shot it from the bench, it grouped around 3" with the Portuguese FNM ammunition that at the time was cheaper than reloading.
That same non corrosive 8x57mm ammo was very accurate in all the Hakims(3) that I had, but it was all gone by the time that I had the 8mm Arisaka and Tikka rifles.
My personal opinion is that those darn barleycorn sights on most Mausers held back their accuracy. The sights on the American and British rifles were much better in my opinion.
I've taken from prairie dogs to Mule deer with the 8x57mm and it will always be a favorite.

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[BadgerShooter]

Its a vastly underrated cartridge. Thinking of getting a Husqvarna sporter 8mm to add to the mix.

[todd9.3x57]

Its a vastly underrated cartridge. Thinking of getting a Husqvarna sporter 8mm to add to the mix.


i'd get another Husqvarna m46 in 8x57. i have the 9.3x57 in m46(1936) and i luv it. the m146 is basically a 98 Mauser large ring, while the m46 is a 96 Mauser small ring. Simpsons' is the place to go.

https://simpsonltd.com/husqvarna/?sort=priceasc&page=2

husky m46 in 9.3x57
https://i.imgur.com/bYki0AY.jpg

D&T for a scope mount and bent bolt with a Buehler safety.
https://i.imgur.com/xvwPkvd.jpg

100yards 5 shots each with the 275gr wfn gc
https://i.imgur.com/fbHYQHz.jpg

[Bigslug]

I'm kinda eager to see if this thread goes long enough for any trends to appear.

I'd instinctively prefer an interwar rifle, but good luck finding one that hasn't literally been through the wars. The Yugo M48's of course have the advantage of being new and matching parts.

Was it the Czech versions that got sights that someone over 25 can actually SEE? Given that the issue barleycorns would turn even an Accuracy International sniper rig into a 2-3MOA rifle, the world probably contains MILLIONS of Mausers that won't ever realize their actual potential due to the human frailty behind the trigger.

Mine's a Frankenstein K98 with a few Nazi eagles and the Yugoslav "Preduzecce 44" rollover stamp. Maybe if I get super nerdy with the research, I can find out who actually made the action. Never have handloaded for it - can only say that it's good enough for government work.

[todd9.3x57]

Was it the Czech versions that got sights that someone over 25 can actually SEE? Given that the issue barleycorns would turn even an Accuracy International sniper rig into a 2-3MOA rifle, the world probably contains MILLIONS of Mausers that won't ever realize their actual potential due to the human frailty behind the trigger.
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HEY!!!!!! YOU DISSIN MY RIFLE??????!!!!!! WHY I OUGHTTA.....wait, i gotta get my glasses to type this...

the worst sight i ever had was a "flip up" peep sight on my 1898 spr armory. it was like a small, small needle hole that i could not see the target let alone the front sight! i dislike the Mauser sights too!!! 3 - 4" at 100 yards is good enuff from me with the original sights. i have a Lyman/Redfield aperture sight on my 91 Argentine, 1898 Krag and 98 Mauser. i can shrink groups to 3/4 - 1 3/4" at 100 yards.

[BadgerShooter]

Simpsons' is the place to go.

Been to their store several times. Bought an 30-06 Husky sporter there last summer.

[wilecoyote]

...Was it the Czech versions that got sights that someone over 25 can actually SEE? Given that the issue barleycorns would turn even an Accuracy International sniper rig into a 2-3MOA rifle, the world probably contains MILLIONS of Mausers that won't ever realize their actual potential due to the human frailty behind the trigger...

I know what you are talking about_
about K98k and 24, the solution is to replace the front sight with one with square profile from any swedish maus., and widen a spare (98 or 24) rear sight accordingly_
the use of shooting glasses with adjustable iris helps a lot, too_
(or you must have the eyesight of a teenager)

[charlie b]

I can't shoot well with notch sights anymore. So, maybe the rifle is very accurate but my eyes might not work with it. Even with a peep sight I am only good for about 2" at 100yd ('tested' with a few different rifles).