M-1 carbine and Berry's?

[gishooter]

Hi,
I'm interested in trying the Berry's plated 110 RN in M-1 carbines.

Anybody have a pet load with 2400 powder?

[bruce381]

look it up most ball equal loads are like 13-15 grains not a lot of variance.
h110,296,2400 all work. have to be top end to function.

[Bmi48219]

Never tried 2400 but they perform well for me over 13.7 to 14.5 of 4227. Any load I’ve tried in that range will cycle my both Inland and AMT III. Berrys does caution to keep MV below 1300 fps. At 14.5 gr I’m seeing 1990 fps from the carbine. YMMV.

[elmacgyver0]

Hmmm, M1 Carbine, the "REAL" 30 Super.

[muskeg13]

110 RN Berry's and 13.0gr 2400 is my favorite M1 Carbine load. It is very reliable and accurate in 2 different carbines, <2"@ 100, capable of bouncing coke cans with ease.

[Bmi48219]

Hmmm, M1 Carbine, the "REAL" 30 Super.

Amen

[gishooter]

110 RN Berry's and 13.0gr 2400 is my favorite M1 Carbine load. It is very reliable and accurate in 2 different carbines, <2"@ 100, capable of bouncing coke cans with ease.

muskeg13, thanks for the info. Will try it out. Want to save primers on the load work up.

[GooseGestapo]

My carbines function with 11.8gr of #2400 under a Lee 93gr RN powder coated and sized .311”.

I like that the brass is tossed over my right shoulder shooting left handed.
Easy to find/retrieve brass.
Cheaper and more accurate are RMR 110gr FMJ. Armscor imports from the Philippines.
I’ve not found Berry’s bullets to be satisfactory.
I prefer the Lee 113gr RFN GC over 14.5 Gr H110 for full powered loads.

[PDshooter]

That what I use 110gr plated bullets from Berrys in my M1 carbine. 11grs of 2400. I load on the light side. Just me. Standard small rifle primers from CCI. Be careful of slam fires.

[Der Gebirgsjager]

The factory boxes of Berry's Bullets all have a suggested maximum velocity at which they are to be driven. Generally speaking, any published load that drives their bullets at or below the suggested velocity is o.k. I have used them, and have used 2400 and H-110 powders with complete happiness!

DG

[stubshaft]

They work great in all of my carbines, but I find best accuracy with 296.

[charlie b]

Berry's has come out with some new bullet designs that handle higher velocities.

[barnetmill]

Berry's has come out with some new bullet designs that handle higher velocities.
I would definitely like to find out more on the new designs.
I found this, but I think you talking about something else. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=berry%27s+new+high+velocity+bullets&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjHy-KU38j9AhWySDABHfPfCrUQBSgAegQICBAB&biw=1099&bih=646&dpr=1.25

Berry's max recommended velocity is not exceeded. (This info is displayed on bullet boxes and product webpages.)

Standard Plate Bullets Max Velocity: 1,250 fps.
Thick-Plate Bullets (TP) Max Velocity: 1,500 fps.

But there is no barrel length specified.

[charlie b]

Yep, the thick plated bullets. No barrel length because it is all velocity dependent. Doesn't matter if it is 1500fps from a rifle or a pistol.

I've used the std Berry's a bit above their recommended vel and not had an issue. Might try the thick plated ones in the carbine and see what happens.

I've always wondered why the vel limit. Especially since cast and PC bullets can go to much higher velocities.

[funnyjim014]

I'm currently running 12.0 2400 under the 110gr berry plated . Seems to run pretty good. Probably could bump it back a little too

[PDshooter]

They work great in all of my carbines, but I find best accuracy with 296.

What load are you using with 296 ?

[mtnman31]

I tried them a couple years back and my results were awful. I tried loads using both 2400 and W-296 at a variety of velocities. I had tumbling bullets at 100yds and patterns, not groups. That said, plated bullets were all I used for a long time in my .45acp and .40S&W. They shot lights out in my H&K's polygonal rifling.

[Larry Gibson]

For best performance at the 30 Carbine's potential a GC'd bullet of 105 - 120 gr is best. Never had any good results from any PBed bullet including Berry's above 1400 fps in any M1 Carbine. BTW, I do not consider 4+ moa or "as good as ball" to be good, especially when running only 1400 +/- fps. M1 Carbines in good condition often will shoot a quality GC'd cast bullet at 1850 - 1950 fps into 2 moa at 100 yards with 10 shot groups.

However, if just plinking at short range then a PB'd 1400 fps bullet might fit your needs.

[Bmi48219]

….Cheaper and more accurate are RMR 110gr FMJ. Armscor imports from the Philippines…..I’ve not found Berry’s bullets to be satisfactory….

30 carbine FMJs from RMR are same price as Berry’s plated. IIRC, RMR is always free shipping. Berry’s is offering free shipping on purchases over $100. Easy choice, IMO.