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BobbyJ
03-18-2022, 02:43 AM
Looks like I am in the minority on 32 ACP + 244 powder. I'm posting in case anyone is looking for data.

71 gr Berrys .312
Powder - Win244
Primers - Remington 1 1/2 Small Pistol
OAL - .980
Press - Dillon XL650 w case feeder
Dies - Redding 32 ACP Pro Series Titanium Carbide Pistol Die Set
temp 66 deg F. alt 800 feet, humid 70%
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2.1 gr Win244
Scorpion 4.50" 903 fps (some stove pipes, too weak)
Savage 3.75" 710 fps
CZ50 3.75" 837 fps
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2.35gr Win244
Savage 3.75" 876 fps
CZ50 3.75" 899 fps
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2.4gr Win244
scorpion 4.50" 985 fps (better cycling)
Savage 3.75" 923 fps
CZ50 3.75" 947 fps
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fiochi 73 gr factory (loaded to Euro standards)
Savage 3.75" 939 fps
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32 acp 60gr sellers factory
CZ50 3.75" - 939 fps

I think 2.1gr is on the verge of too low, at least for my guns. The savage really dropped velocity over the tighter chamber of the CZ50 at this load. If you notice at 2.35 gr both the CZ and Savage are closer. My best guess is the Savage was able to seal the chamber better at 2.35gr vs 2.1 gr. At 2.1grs the CZ was quite a bit faster.

I'm thinking my do all is going to be around 2.3gr, gives me a larger margin of error, don't want to cross the 2.5 gr barrier.

Redding dies are good quality but the sizing die needs to size a few mm further down the case. as is 20 percent of the cases will be out of spec and not chamber well.

tejano
03-18-2022, 08:49 AM
Good info. Thanks for sharing.

Pb&j
03-19-2022, 05:27 PM
I just scored 6# of this stuff. Seems those that use it are quite happy with it. Loading up some 9mm tomorrow and am looking forward to some chrono time with our ever improving weather here. As Tejano said, thanks for sharing.

BobbyJ
03-20-2022, 12:16 AM
I just scored 6# of this stuff. Seems those that use it are quite happy with it. Loading up some 9mm tomorrow and am looking forward to some chrono time with our ever improving weather here. As Tejano said, thanks for sharing.

Curious on your 9mm results. I've only used Hodgdons Hs6 on 9mm.

Alferd Packer
03-31-2022, 10:56 AM
So, are you intimating that Hs6 and 244 are basically the same powder?

BobbyJ
04-13-2022, 01:02 AM
So, are you intimating that Hs6 and 244 are basically the same powder?

Sorry so late, not been on in a few weeks. No win 244 = win231 = HP38 or roughly. I like for 32 acp so far. I loaded up some Colt 45 250gr with it today and shot a bunch.
6.7gr win 244 + 250gr RNFP = 880 fps out of Cimeron Bisely (7" barrel) and 845fps from a Pietta Colt revolver (4 3/4" barrel)

Around the old black powder load velocities. In the Colt I did notice that 244 was smokey, left a cloud of smoke after each shot that I don't get from say Fiochi Cowboy 750fps 250gr ammo.

I don't get any smoke from the CZ50 32 acp. Its not bad (some might like the effect), not like black powder smoke, not sure why win 244 so smokey out of the colts.