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Hanzy4200
03-15-2022, 09:27 PM
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I came along this alloy at my scrap yard. The owner said it was some kind of printing lead, before I said anything. Some pieces are clearly Linotype. However there is a lot of this ribbon type lead (Middle Picture). It's very shiny, breaks when bent, and melts just like lead, but is harder. It's in lots of small pieces. There are a bunch of these cubes also, some with letter or designs, some not. I got 64 lbs of it for $32. There's still a good 50+ lbs there along with what looks like a large unused spool of the ribbon, probably 30 lb. What do you guys think? Do I need to go back tomorrow for the rest?

Budzilla 19
03-15-2022, 10:12 PM
Don’t wait, go get the rest of it, now! If they got a scanner in house, have them shoot it, then you’ll know, but, in my opinion only, it will be worth getting. Good luck.

BNE
03-15-2022, 10:19 PM
Yes. Get what you can for that price.

kcofohio
03-15-2022, 11:46 PM
Looks like you have a mix of linotype, factory cast type, and stick-ons.

Dusty Bannister
03-15-2022, 11:57 PM
Photo #1 looks like linotype and spacer strips. Spacer strips can be lino or anything softer.
Photo #2 is likely spacer strips of various materials. Since it also is in a roll like ribbon, perhaps that would be something used in glass work. How did you determine it is harder? Sort like materials for now. You have plenty of time to figure things out.
Photo #3 looks more like Foundry or mono type, but you may want to keep that separated as well.
You will probably want to have BNE scan a few samples for those that are really unknown metal.

colchester
03-16-2022, 11:33 AM
Mix of foundry/ monotype, linotype and spacers. Price is verrry good I would buy it all

Hanzy4200
03-16-2022, 02:20 PM
Looks like you have a mix of linotype, factory cast type, and stick-ons.

There are no stick-ons. They keep all their WW's separate. I can see from the one pic it could look that way. The thin pieces are my primary concern. It's definitely not soft alloy. It breaks when bent and has a much higher shine than lead.

super6
03-16-2022, 02:46 PM
At that price, Buy it and separate.

Hanzy4200
03-16-2022, 03:54 PM
Looks like you have a mix of linotype, factory cast type, and stick-ons.

There are no stick-ons. They keep all their WW's separate. I can see from the one pic it could look that way. The thin pieces are my primary concern. It's definitely not soft alloy. It breaks when bent and has a much higher shine than lead. I couldn't go today, but I plan to drive down tomorrow. Nice thing is, I've developed a repor with the yard owner, so he said he would buy back the alloy for what I paid if it turns out to be junk.

gwpercle
03-16-2022, 04:30 PM
Everything you show is a form of type metal , high in tin content and hard .
Go back and get the rest . The thin ribbon stuff ... I'm not sure what that is .
You will find some linotype with no letters ...those are spacers ... lots of spacers used in type setting.

A friend retired from the printing business and gave me all his old metal type ... there was no ribbon like material in it .
What a nice guy !
Gary

kcofohio
03-16-2022, 05:03 PM
I just bought some factory cast type from Rotometals. It has thin strips that are shiny. They snap in two when bent around 45 degree bend. So far they have melted. I keep the heat lower at start in case there was zinc in the mix, before I crank it up a bit.

colchester
03-16-2022, 05:17 PM
The thin "ribbon is spacer material I have seen it from very thin to 1/2" thick.

lightman
03-16-2022, 11:22 PM
Thats a great price. I would go back for it all.

Hanzy4200
04-06-2022, 03:12 PM
Well, the verdict is in! I sent some in for testing by a member here. Thanks a million BNE. The suspect thin ribbon material is 11.7% antimony and 3.8% tin. We have linotype! Thank you all for your input. Very glad I went back for the rest.

Dusty Bannister
04-06-2022, 04:41 PM
Congratulations on the find. That thin ribbon is almost the grade of linotype. We KNOW that is a good material to have on hand. I would not have expected it to be of that alloy. Keep learning.

BLAHUT
08-25-2022, 04:47 PM
I would be on my way back right now???

Defcon-One
09-04-2022, 01:08 PM
I may be late to this game, but I'd buy it all at that price. You can't loose!

The thin, shiny strips are spacers. If you fold them and they break leaving a grainy looking break line, then they are Linotype. Most spacers are Linotype, not cheaper alloys. It is safer that way.



There are no stick-ons. They keep all their WW's separate. I can see from the one pic it could look that way. The thin pieces are my primary concern. It's definitely not soft alloy. It breaks when bent and has a much higher shine than lead.

wilecoyote
09-04-2022, 01:12 PM
Go for it !

oley55
09-04-2022, 04:35 PM
March 2022, that batch of type is long gone from the recycler by now.

David2011
09-08-2022, 03:07 AM
I hope so, since we’re the ultimate recyclers for that type of material.