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toot
02-22-2022, 08:40 AM
I have just traded for a 32 cal percussion muzzle loader. I don't know what size RB'S, to shoot in it and what powder charge? I have been shooting OO- BUCK SHOT in it. I use 30 grains of 3FG. with a felt wad over the powder and one over the RB. and it does crack when fired! it is marked GOUCHER on the lock with a hunting dog behind the hammer. it is odd that it has no half cock on it. I removed the lock and it never had one, odd? I have never seen one without a half cock, any one else? it is a half stock, octagon with all brass furniture. and has a cupped brass ram rod, that has a slotted bottom for attaching a patch to it. so just what do I have, any one know? all help would be appreaciated.

toot
02-22-2022, 08:41 AM
I cannot attach any photo's, my BANG & OLUFSEN , lap top will not do it, sorry.

LAGS
02-22-2022, 11:05 AM
I have both .310 and .315 balls for my .32s
I also have buckshot molds and will use the Close Sized ball with the proper thickness of patch over 25 gr of 3f.
I want to try some cast Boolits like 115 gr for M1 with the mold slightly Beagled.
I do remember some Cheap rifles that didn't have a half cock notch.
Possibly some of the original from back in the day we're made that way.
But are you sure that there is no notch ?

mooman76
02-22-2022, 12:40 PM
I have 3 32's. 2 of them take a 310 RB with a .015 patch and an old original that takes a .319 RB with a .015 patch. they all shoot well with 15-20gr of powder.

ohiochuck
02-22-2022, 02:49 PM
Toot good info here
Also visit the The Muzzleloader Forum where there are many 32 cal users.

freakonaleash
02-22-2022, 05:52 PM
Many old percussion locks had no half cock notch.

swamp
02-22-2022, 05:58 PM
I have a T/C 32 and use .310 rb and T/C Maxi. Both work well in it. Also use the rb for my buckshot loads. Multi purpoose ball.
swamp

brewer12345
02-23-2022, 01:06 PM
I have a 32 I need to try shooting, since I bought it last year and never got around to it. I plan to try this stuff: https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Super-Buck-Lead-1-1_2-8-lb_jar-310/productinfo/SBK15/

toot
02-23-2022, 05:45 PM
I an sure there is no half cock notch that was ever milled / machined on the tumbler. as I stated it is an original gun from the 1850"s.

toot
02-23-2022, 05:50 PM
freakonaleash, thank you for the come back. as I am not stupped. I have been collecting muzzleloaders, for over 70 yrs. as you stated many never had a half cock. and I seem to have one, MFG, by GOUCHER!! he was a rifle maker , that is listed.

fiberoptik
02-23-2022, 05:56 PM
I have a 32 I need to try shooting, since I bought it last year and never got around to it. I plan to try this stuff: https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Super-Buck-Lead-1-1_2-8-lb_jar-310/productinfo/SBK15/

Try the 1 1/2.


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toot
02-23-2022, 06:49 PM
fiberoptik, I did and out of stock. thank's.

toot
02-23-2022, 06:54 PM
LAGS, I have not patched them. I use 2FG. with a felt wad over the 30 grain load & push the RB, down into the felt wad & put another felt wad on top of the ball to hold it in. that is what I do to it. works for me! I know some one will say to use 3FG. but you use what you have on hand. it has instant ignition with 2FG!.

toot
02-23-2022, 06:56 PM
brewer12345, as I stated it is out if stock. thanks for the help!

swamp
02-23-2022, 07:28 PM
I have a 32 I need to try shooting, since I bought it last year and never got around to it. I plan to try this stuff: https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Super-Buck-Lead-1-1_2-8-lb_jar-310/productinfo/SBK15/

I have both soft and harder 310 rb if you would like to try. Let me know and we can set up a meet. I also use for buckshot loads.
swamp

toot
02-24-2022, 08:48 AM
I would like to set up a meet, but you are in COLORADO & I am in the north east. a bit far to drive. thanks for the offer, wish we were closer.

toot
02-24-2022, 08:51 AM
ohiochuck, yes it is a great site! I am already a member on it.

John Taylor
02-24-2022, 08:58 AM
When I had a 32 it seemed to work best with around 10 grains of 3F. Was trying it with much more and it did not shoot very good, then I remembered the 32 rim fire only has 9 grains of powder.

rbuck351
02-24-2022, 01:51 PM
I bought a TC that has 2 32 cal GM barrels and locks, percussion and flint. I use the Lee 310 ball over 20 grs of 3F. 50yd groups are right at 1"with either barrel.

brewer12345
02-24-2022, 04:39 PM
I have both soft and harder 310 rb if you would like to try. Let me know and we can set up a meet. I also use for buckshot loads.
swamp


Appreciate the thought, but I have the 1.5 buck and a .310 mold so I should be set. Frankly, this will take a back seat to fooling around with 58 minies and playing with a new to me 45.

fiberoptik
02-24-2022, 05:18 PM
Go here and learn.
http://blackpowderrifleaccuracy.com


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beagle74
02-24-2022, 05:45 PM
My small bore black powder shooting resulted in lighter charges than most. Most of my experience is with a .36 and found 20gr 3f to be perfect. Seemed I got critiqued a lot for not upping it to 40gr or more. My eyes were only good enough to head shoot squirrels to 20 yards or so, so how much powder would you need. Accuracy wise, all balls would touch at that range.

HamGunner
02-24-2022, 08:03 PM
My .32 Cal. CVA short 24" Squirrel rifle shoots <half dollar sized groups dead on at 25 yards using 18-20gr. of my home made 3FG under a .315 ball sitting on a lubed patch. Very repeatable groups and good enough for a squirrels head.

JWFilips
02-24-2022, 08:11 PM
I bought a TC that has 2 32 cal GM barrels and locks, percussion and flint. I use the Lee 310 ball over 20 grs of 3F. 50yd groups are right at 1"with either barrel.
Pretty much the same here. I built a custom flintlock on a GM .32 Barrel It was ok accurate but it had to be swabbed between every shot ! I sent it to Bobby Hoyt to recut it to 40 cal . Then it became a real shooter! and did not need too much cleaning between shots! Excellent squirrel gun and that caliber is inherently accurate

rbuck351
02-25-2022, 12:59 AM
I have only shot at most 15-20 shots with either of my GM 32 barrels but I have never cleaned between shots. The first load on a clean barrel is a bit easier than following shots but but not much. I use moose milk as a patch lube.

toot
02-25-2022, 12:58 PM
fiberoptic, that is a great site, thank's.

fiberoptik
02-25-2022, 11:54 PM
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AntiqueSledMan
02-26-2022, 06:43 AM
Back when I started shooting .32 Caliber the only mold I could find was a LEE .308 diameter round ball.
I just played around with different patches until I found one which was a good seat.
Has been working fine for over 35 years in both my CVA Squirrel Rifle and my Pedersoli Pennsylvania.

AntiqueSledMan.

toot
02-26-2022, 08:38 AM
HamGunner, that is amazing!

Hanshi
03-03-2022, 06:05 PM
Don't know if this will help but here goes. I owned a .32 percussion for years and also have a .32 flintlock. The only .32 mold I ever had is a Lee .311". It was very accurate in the percussion and also the flintlock. 20 to 30 grains of 3F works in both and a ticking patch worked for the percussion but the flintlock needed a .023" patch. All my powder is 3F and that's what I use. 2F might do as well or maybe better but I just don't have any.

indian joe
03-03-2022, 06:57 PM
I bought a little 32 wesson copy for my daughter ages ago - most at the time (CVA squirrel gun etc) needed a molded ball - we searched around and got this one because it would take buckshot straight from the can - its shallow rifled and needs a thin patch, japara was ideal - the load is real tight - its deadly accurate to 50 yards - uses a 32/20 case full of FFFg.

sharps4590
03-04-2022, 07:55 AM
My small bore black powder shooting resulted in lighter charges than most. Most of my experience is with a .36 and found 20gr 3f to be perfect. Seemed I got critiqued a lot for not upping it to 40gr or more. My eyes were only good enough to head shoot squirrels to 20 yards or so, so how much powder would you need. Accuracy wise, all balls would touch at that range.

You just described me to a "T". I played with a couple 32's and they were fine. I settled on the 36 cal. 35 years ago simply because I like it better. I'd catch a little flack because I didn't use at least 30 grs. but, even 20 grs. is pretty destructive if you don't head shoot. Lots of folks pooh-pooh the front legs and ribs but, the front legs are my favorite and the wife is one of those "boney piece" eaters so she likes the ribs.