herters 9 ton swage press

[porthos]

i have a herters 9 ton swage press with no dies. what would be the appx value??

[ReloaderFred]

A reminder to please not make any offers to buy or sell in this thread..:drinks:

[porthos]

i am not offering it for sale yet. but at some time i may do so. if that time comes; it will go on the for sale section. i was just curious as to its value. saw one go for $400.00 on the sale site with dies. i didn't know they had that value (with dies). i did ask its value on the sale section; but, got no replies

[Bent Ramrod]

The 9-Ton used proprietary Herter’s dies (different than their reloading press swage dies) and (IIRC) depended on a hardened washer to function. You might ask for dimensions on Helping Hands or somewhere and make a set or have one made. The .22 set I had with my long-gone 9-Ton was kind of loosey-goosey on the diameters; not exactly benchrest quality, but made to a price, as all their stuff was.

Without the dies, the press is only a curio. Best advice I can give is put it on S&S as an auction and see what happens. You could also get on the ARTCA Site, which has a Herter’s forum, and ask (or auction) there.

I’m kind of in the same boat. I have a C-H Swag-O-Matic that I've accumulated several die sets for, but it needs the ring and spanner that holds them in the press and the top punch. A member here supplied the dimensions, and another the parts list/instructions, but I haven’t gotten around to making the missing bits yet. Consequently, I figure the press is worth no more than the sawski I paid for it, and only that to somebody with the same packrat instincts that I have.

There are a (very) few fanatical Herter’s collectors around, but every time I offered them “rarities” that I’d discovered, they said they already had them, and gradually we got out of touch. The only Herter’s stuff I go out of my way to collect are George L.’s books. Herter’s is certainly famous, or notorious, or infamous, but as of yet the brand doesn’t have the collector cachet that Ideal, Hollywood or B&M has. You’ll have to test the “market,” (such as it is), on your own.

[Martin Luber]

Amazing how he had the worlds best of everything that no one else had heard of...

No commercial market could keep up with him. sic

I caught his drift as a kid reading his BS in a 1960s catalog

[porthos]

i have a catalog from the early 1960s and enjoy reading it every couple years

[porthos]

martin luber you have e-mail

[deltaenterprizes]

I have made dies for my Herters 9 ton Swage press.
They are simple 3 piece dies. A cylinder of the correct inside diameter for a he desired bullet, an ejector punch that is about.0005”smaller than the ID of the cylinder and a nose punch also.0005” smaller than the ID of the cylinder.
The draw back of the system is that the bullets will have a shoulder not a smooth ogive like a 2 piece nose forming die.
The plus side is that they are relatively easy to make since I have the tools and skill but they do take a lot of time.

I have run across die sets on EBay.

[nicholst55]

i am not offering it for sale yet. but at some time i may do so. if that time comes; it will go on the for sale section. i was just curious as to its value. saw one go for $400.00 on the sale site with dies. i didn't know they had that value (with dies). i did ask its value on the sale section; but, got no replies

I retract my earlier statement, as I seem to have mistaken you for someone else. My apologies.

[Ajax111]

If a person were to be looking for some of the Herter's dies for the 9 Ton press.
Where would they start?

[Bent Ramrod]

The usual auction sites, the swaging and Buy/Sell sections of the shooting sites, and the ARTCA Site.

The problem is that once they are separated from the press, it takes a Herter’s specialist to identify them. To everybody else, they look like anonymous parts.