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MUSTANG
02-19-2022, 05:42 PM
A couple of years ago I cast about a hundred or so of the NOE 311-199-SP boolits, sized to .310 and installed gas checks using a Carnuba Red lube. Then I put them on the shelf. The 311-199-SP is also labeled as the 311-198-SP on some Internet searches; even on the NOE site for some drawings. This is the old Lyman 311365 boolit as made by NOE.

A couple of weeks ago I pulled them off the shelf and loaded ten using BLC2 Powder. There are threads elsewhere on this site citing a variety of powders such as Unique, 4198, 4895, etc.. None were using BLC2. I did locate a Chart built from Quick Load on the internet for the 30-06 using the NOE 311-199-SP (They called it the 311-198-SP on the chart) and saved it as a pdf. There are numerous powders on the chart with Powder/Load Data/Pressure/Velocity; but I cannot attach it to this thread, and the print is too small to read if it is saved and attached as a picture.


Update - FOUND IT - The link for the Table is: https://noebulletmolds.com/rd/30Cal/311198SP_311365_30-06_Rev01.pdf.


The “Quick Load” chart mentioned above does list BLC2 as a potential powder for use in a 30-06 load; but it displays (Forecasts?) 37 Grains at 1905 fps and 25,000 PSI. Then it lists a maximum of 47.5 Grains at 2377 fps with a pressure of 42,700 PSI. I am using this data as a reference for my efforts with BLC2 in my Remington 700 Varmint .308 Winchester rifle.

Back on 29 November; I loaded up ten rounds using 28 Grains of BLC Powder and tested. This is nine grains below start levels for the Referenced Chart above in a 30-06; but given the smaller case dimension/capacity of the .308 Winchester, I decided to opt for a lower Charge level to start.

Specs for the first test load are:

Rifle: Remington 700 ADL Varmint .308

Barrel Twist: 1 in 12

Wind: 0

Temp: 50 degrees F.

Boolit: NOE 311-199-SP

Ballistic Coefficient: .4215

Brinnel Hardness: 9.8

Bullet sized: .310

Alloy: 96% Lead, 3% Antimony, 1% Tin

Bullet Lube: Carnuba Red

Gas Check: Ameri-max Aluminum 0.14”

Powder: BLC2 28 Grains

Primer: CCI-34

Case: Mixed military and commercial Brass

OAL: 2.750 inches

Distance: 100 Yards.

10 Shot Group Size: 2.895 MOA

And a Target:

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My plans in the next few weeks is to start increasing BLC2 Powder charges in tests to see where we go. This is an interesting Boolit/Mold as it has lovers and haters. Multiple posts of advocates reporting "Good Accuracy" (using other powders); as well as others reporting poor accuracy. Often lack of Targets posted for either side of the Love Fest Scale. It does have a somewhat long unsupported nose which can often tend towards "LESSER ACCURACY". The body of the boolit is .542 inches and the nose is .724 inches; but the primary mass is in the body. We will be playing with it over the next few months with primer goal being to find out how it performs with BLC2 Powder in a Bolt Rifle. As they say "We will See What We Will See".

MUSTANG
03-01-2022, 06:56 PM
Increased load of BLC2 for the 311-199-SP to 30 Grains. (NOE Equivalent to Lyman 311365) Boolit was lubed with Carnumba Red, Aluminum Gas Check and Sized to .310. I also added a Dacron filler.


Specs for the second test load are:

Rifle: Remington 700 ADL Varmint .308

Barrel Twist: 1 in 12

Wind: 5

Temp: 45 degrees F.

Boolit: NOE 311-199-SP

Ballistic Coefficient: .4215

Brinnel Hardness: 9.8

Bullet sized: .310

Alloy: 96% Lead, 3% Antimony, 1% Tin

Bullet Lube: Carnuba Red

Gas Check: Ameri-max Aluminum 0.14”

Powder: BLC2 30 Grains

Primer: CCI-34

Case: Mixed military and commercial Brass

OAL: 2.80 Inches

Distance: 100 Yards.

10 Shot Group Size: 1.407 MOA

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