Maxie ball use?

[S.B.]

years back I bough a maxie ball mold for my T/C Hawkin rifle and that's what I hunted with. I've always cast the bullet the applied Bore Butter to them then shot them? Is this proper?
Steve

[FLINTNFIRE]

It is the same way I shoot maxi ball , maxi hunter , and minie balls through mine , wipe bore butter on or whatever mystery lube I have for black powder loads , sounds proper to me .

Some use a card or felt wad under ball between load , that is something you have to test to see if it helps or hurts .

[S.B.]

I've never used a wad with mine? Shoots good.
Steve

[scattershot]

That’s the way I do it. Game hit with those things drop like sash weights. During the course of a day, I’ll run my ramrod downbore, just to be sure that the bullet is still seated properly.

[S.B.]

My ramrod is marked bullets are tight enough they're not going anywhere in my rifle so, I don't need to run the ramrod down the bore during hunting till I touch the trigger off? If that's your plan I'd stick with it.
Steve

[Geezer in NH]

For TC they got you to buy the mold and lube when the RB was adequate for the use. Sales and money is the goal for all sellers and has nothing to do with reality.

[S.B.]

RB, I'm not good with acronyms?
Steve

[HWooldridge]

RB, I'm not good with acronyms?
Steve
Probably “round ball”.

[mooman76]

A felt wad sometimes improves accuracy. Yes, RB is for roundball.

[ShooterAZ]

I use conicals in my Lyman 54 caliber for Elk, and it performs beautifully. I use bore butter only in the winter time. In the summer it just melts. Thankfully just about all of my hunting is done in colder weather. In summertime I use a mix of olive oil and beeswax, this works very well too. I don't use wads with my conicals.

[MT Gianni]

Deer tallow works well also. Maxiballs penetrate like nobodies business.

[sharps4590]

That’s the way I do it. Game hit with those things drop like sash weights. During the course of a day, I’ll run my ramrod downbore, just to be sure that the bullet is still seated properly.

scatter, I wonder how many know what a sash weight is?

[dave951]

scatter, I wonder how many know what a sash weight is?

Since I often work on old houses, yup, and I've restrung more than few as well.

[gunther]

Maxi balls do improve the deer loads in 45 caliber rifles. And if you want less recoil from a 45 70, a case full of 3f and a maxi ball is fun! They expand to fit trapdoor bores, and shoot great. Launching pop cans 20 feet in the air at 85 yards is a hoot,

[NSB]

My very first black powder gun was a TC Hawkin in 45 cal. It didn’t take too long to figure out that a 127g round ball was pretty anemic for penetration on deer. I bought the Maxi mold and it cast a 245g bullet. Big, big difference in penetration and in my gun….accuracy. It would shoot a ragged hole at fifty yards and sub 3” five shot groups at a hundred yards. Also, didn’t have to mess with patches. I ended up buying several more muzzle loaders over the years and they were all 50 cal to start.

[MostlyLeverGuns]

I have used the Maxie-ball, T_C Bore Butter in the grooves, no wad in the same manner for elk. Worked fine out of a Thompson-Center Hawken .50, 10 grs FFFFg under 100 gr equivalent Pyrodex and the 370 gr Maxie-Ball killed a 5 X 6 bull, quartering away, lung/heart shot, pass through, 65 yards, went about 30 yards and down.

[longbow]

Since noone has mentioned it I'll say that the Maxi's don't work in rifles with round ball twist.

I have an old CVA. 50 cal. Hawken I built from a kit and it is rifled 1:66". Patched round ball shoots quite well but the Maxi shot very poorly. Fit was good but it was too long to stabilize.

I gave the mould to a friend with a CVA double rifle with 1:48" twist and it shot well for him.

Longbow

[S.B.]

Do you,if so enlighten us ignorant folks, please?
Steve

[Edward]

years back I bough a maxie ball mold for my T/C Hawkin rifle and that's what I hunted with. I've always cast the bullet the applied Bore Butter to them then shot them? Is this proper?
Steve

No on bore butter (JUNK) and lube only bottom groove said by someone who knows (Id*****wis)

[centershot]

A sash weight is a heavy metallic weight, commonly made of iron or lead, used to counterweight a window sash. It was hung from a rope attached to the sash and ran over a pulley encased in the window frame and traveled up and down in a hidden pocket within the framework.

[FLINTNFIRE]

Bore butter has worked for me , not much difference in it and other recipes I have tried , and I have a english sporting rifle with a slow round ball twist that shoots minies and maxis very well with my load of triple f .

Each gun and each shooter has things that work for them that do not always work for others , try things for yourself if they work good if not use what does work for the gun or for yourself , I also lube all the maxi , I want the fouling soft and it works for me and has since I bought a New Englander 50 caliber in late 89 .

Maxi hunter mold has 3 smaller lube grooves , with the slight dimple in center , once again I lube all grooves .

[LAGS]

And those Sash weights I use to save from buildings I demolished or remodeled made great Deep Sea fishing weights.
The lead ones got turned into muzzleloading shot.

[Sixgun Symphony]

For TC they got you to buy the mold and lube when the RB was adequate for the use. Sales and money is the goal for all sellers and has nothing to do with reality.

.45 caliber ball is too light for elk, .45 caliber heavy conicals will get the job done.

[S.B.]

Yes, I worked as union laborer for 34 years. but, can't remember ever seeing a lead one you must be older than me i'm 73?
Steve

[LAGS]

I am not older than you
But the houses in California I demoed were built in the 20s or 30s.
Even then , most were cast iron.
I took the steel ones out to places where they did charter fishing boats and sold them to the fishermen.
They bought them for half the price of Lead sinkers that they use , plus didn't care if they lost them.
But the few lead ones I found were really soft lead.
That was great for casting Minnie's and probably REAL boolits

[longcruise]

So, what I have gleaned from this topic is that the only thing more deadly than a maxi ball would be a maxi cast from a melted down sash weight. :grin:

[Outpost75]

The .45 Maxi-ball works well in the .45 Colt cast 1 to 40 tin-lead with 28 grains of 3Fg black, seat bullet deep enough to compress the powder. Roll crimp behind front band. Close match to M1887 Schofield service load.

50-50 olive oil and beeswax is better than bore butter and cleaner shooting.

[cwtebay]

scatter, I wonder how many know what a sash weight is?Enough of us that stop to feel a set of drapes when we see them on the trash on the curb!!

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[rbuck351]

Been a long time since I've seen a sash weight and I have never seen a lead on.

[triggerhappy243]

No on bore butter (JUNK) and lube only bottom groove said by someone who knows (Id*****wis)

sounds like you are buddies with jon koziol, aka frontier muzzleloading. My group beggs to differ about BB being junk. . 100 yards, 54 cal., 435 gr. maxi-ball, bore butter as the lube. 90 gr. Pyrodex RS. yep........... 3 shots out of my T/C renegade.