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brassrat
01-09-2022, 02:36 PM
So I have a bunch of shiny, decapped, 30/30. It seems unsized so I put the rod back in the resize die and reset the die. I start off and see dents all around the shoulders. Can this be the die a little off or maybe the too much lube/ no inside lube? 294307

toallmy
01-09-2022, 02:39 PM
Probably a good idea to pull the resizing die apart and clean it , and use less case lube ....
Also it wouldn't hurt to check to make sure that you don't mix up you're dies

AlHunt
01-09-2022, 02:45 PM
Too much lube.

Baltimoreed
01-09-2022, 02:47 PM
What he said^^^

ReloaderFred
01-09-2022, 02:48 PM
Hydraulic dents are caused by too much lube.

Hope this helps.

Fred

BigAlofPa.
01-09-2022, 03:14 PM
Sometimes i get the dents. After i freshen up the lube pad. Never had any negative effects from shooting them.

Shawlerbrook
01-09-2022, 03:22 PM
Ditto on the lube. Have never had a problem since I switched to Imperial Sizing Wax.

Winger Ed.
01-09-2022, 03:40 PM
You can go ahead and use those. The lube dents will 'iron' themselves back out
when the case fire forms next time around.

For the rest----
Clean the die, use way less lube, then go forth and sin no more.:bigsmyl2:

brassrat
01-09-2022, 03:42 PM
I do use quite a bit of my new lube which is Fiebings golden mink oil. I did try wiping it off the shoulder and sized one but still no good. I guess I will clean it out good and see. Thanks everyone. I may have been ignoring this, in the past, but today I focused on them. More than likely I have several 50 rd boxes all loaded like this.

Noah Zark
01-09-2022, 03:43 PM
What is too much case lube, Alex?

(The rest of yinz didn't state your answers in the form of a question.)

Noah

toallmy
01-09-2022, 03:50 PM
What is too much case lube, Alex?

(The rest of yinz didn't state your answers in the form of a question.)

Noah

To much lube shows up when it builds up in your sizing die causing lube dents in the shoulder . The fix is taking apart your sizing die and cleaning it .

brassrat
01-09-2022, 05:34 PM
You are correct sirs. I made a sausage bread and set to cleaning die which began with my ultrasonic cleaner which was almost empty except for a handful of sandish feeling stuff. I sized a couple and its much better. Now I'm too tired to continue as getting 75 or so loaded is a big job here. Thanks a bunch, I thought the lube dents were the, one or two, little round dents I have seen on .223.

Winger Ed.
01-09-2022, 05:41 PM
Ya just have to develop a feel for what's too much. You should be able to feel it, but the lube shouldn't be slimy.
To clean the die, just twisting a soft cloth all the way up into it without the stem is usually enough.

Wayne Smith
01-09-2022, 09:02 PM
Some dies have bleed holes too. It might be reasonable to make sure it is not blocked.

samari46
01-15-2022, 01:15 AM
Pipe cleaners are great for cleaning the weep hole in sizing dies. Get the regular ones without the metallic bristles. Frank

lightman
01-15-2022, 01:08 PM
My standard procedure when loading cases that have been lubed is I keep a rag in my right hand, the hand that operates the press handle, and I wipe off the neck and shoulder before sizing it. I work with both hands, the right works the press handle and the left moves the case. Don't worry about removing too much lube, a gentle wipe still leaves enough lube to work. But only wipe the neck shoulder area. As for the dents, they don't hurt anything except the looks.

mdi
01-15-2022, 01:17 PM
I keep a jar of "My Red" cleaning solution on my bench (my a version of Ed's Red). Often when done with a batch I'll drop a die in the jar and let the die soak, usually until I remember it, next day? next week? The mineral spirits in my mix cleans, the Kroil and ATF help penetrate the small spaces and lube a bit. After a soak it's an easy brushing and wipe off excess. Bullet lube in seating die and case lube in sizing die are easily removed...

I've been using Mink Oil Boot Dressing for a long time and it certainly don't much. Sometimes I'll skip a case and often think "this ain't enough lube!" but I have never had a case stick in a sizing die...

gwpercle
01-16-2022, 10:15 AM
Too much lube.

You are seeing " Lube Dents" .
Clean the die and use just a little less lube ... there is a fine line between just enough and too much , a little experience will get you there . The lube dent will iron out when fired ...it's not a problem , just looks wonky !

My thoughts ... I would rather have a lube dent than a stuck case ... those stuck cases can mess up your day !
Gary

Duckiller
01-21-2022, 01:12 AM
Every one NEEDS a RCBS stuck case removing tool. In 50 years of reloading I have probably stuck 3-4 cases. Always stuck after stores are closed and I was only 1/2 way through what I wanted to do. After I got the tool it is a quick fix to remove a stuck case. Then I use a touch more lube.

John Guedry
01-23-2022, 01:08 PM
You make your own stuck case remover cheaper than buying one ready made.

georgerkahn
01-23-2022, 03:13 PM
So I have a bunch of shiny, decapped, 30/30. It seems unsized so I put the rod back in the resize die and reset the die. I start off and see dents all around the shoulders. Can this be the die a little off or maybe the too much lube/ no inside lube? 294307

I agree 101% with the probablity of your using, perhaps, too much lube. Another poster added the cleaning/opening if necessary of the air bleed hole. A third possibility, which has not been mentioned, was demonstrated by a friend (Steve) years back when he had a similar problem as yours and asked members of our Bullseye group for a solution. After adiving to use less lub and make sure bleed hole is open, the problem remained, but not as pronounced. He was asked to bring suspect die to next week's match, and without any real checking, our senior "sage" dropped the die into a mason jar he had brought with a solvent (gasoline? lacquer thinner? (I do not recall)) filling it. We shot for about an hour, after which Carl removed the die and brushed the innards quite aggressively with a soft bronze brush. He reassembled it, put it into the single stage press bolted there, and sized about a dozen cases with zero dents or irregularities. I do recall the die brand -- Lyman -- and apparently Steve purchased it, brand new, and had not cleaned it/removed their rust-preventing coating!
You did not indicate if your die is a brand-new not cleaned one... If so, here's another possibility.
geo

jsizemore
01-23-2022, 06:10 PM
30/30 and hornet dent pretty easy.

brassrat
01-26-2022, 09:49 PM
I finished loading all these rounds and no dents. I am using much less lube. There is an unused Stuck Case gizmo in my parts drawer. It was an early purchase. Now I will finish going through and make sure all my dies are clean and reset in their Lee turrets. Thanks for all the help