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mjwcaster
12-10-2021, 03:49 PM
I am looking for suggestions for a very small container to melt a few pounds of lead in.

Just enough to sink a thermometer and thermocouple in.
I’ll heat it on my Coleman stove, sitting on some flat plate (cake pan probably).

I am planning on trying some pure lead to check calibration on my instruments since they do not agree with each other and I have no certified test gear to reference.


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BattleRife
12-10-2021, 04:14 PM
There's not much trick to holding lead, the temperatures involved aren't high and liquid metal embrittlement shouldn't be an issue so long as your container is not highly stressed. Most casting pots are just steel or cast iron.

I would consider getting a metal 1-cup measuring cup to be high end. Low end, just burn the polymer lining out of a steel soup can and use that. Be careful with the choice of can, some fruit cans have zinc plating on the interior.

358429
12-10-2021, 04:31 PM
The one quart stainless steel saucepans can be had from Walmart for about $7.

mjwcaster
12-10-2021, 04:35 PM
I would consider getting a metal 1-cup measuring cup to be high end. Low end, just burn the polymer lining out of a steel soup can and use that. Be careful with the choice of can, some fruit cans have zinc plating on the interior.

I have 6” probes so looking for something tall(ish)

I had thought soup can, grabbed a few out of the bin.
Cut my 5lb pure plumbers lead ingot in half to fit and put it in the stove.
Then wondered if they are still soldered?
My cans were 2 different designs, one with a seam on the side.

Pulled it off and decided to research.
I might try later with a full catch pan on the stove in case the can fails.


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imashooter2
12-10-2021, 04:56 PM
Tall and small isn’t common in a pot or pan. Most like their high temperature liquids in something more stable.

RickinTN
12-10-2021, 05:03 PM
I like tall and narrow pots for casting also. I have bought mine at thrift stores although the new ones aren't usually too expensive. To find the perfect pot you might try a restaurant supply store. Expect to pay a little more there.
Good luck!
Rick

Sasquatch-1
12-11-2021, 10:16 AM
When I first started casting I used old vegetable cans on the kitchen stove. The solder joint did give out after a short time. But with the new cans today you can probably find one without the solder joint. Or go to the goodwill store and find an old stainless pot that will work.

GregLaROCHE
12-11-2021, 04:42 PM
A suggestion is to try a piece of pipe with a pipe cap on one end. That way you could choose exactly the height and diameter to suit your purpose. A little welding, if available, will help to make it more stable and add handles.

mjwcaster
12-11-2021, 10:24 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions. This is only for occasional use to try to check calibration of temperature measuring devices. I have other pots, big burners and 2 Lee 4-20’s for real use.
Not even sure if my calibration idea will work.

I tried a seamless can, burnt off the plastic liner.
But using a catch pan in case the can failed limited heat transfer and the lead barely melted.
I had split a 5lb plumbers ingot in half and stuck them in the can. I used my torch to melt the upper ingot and then stuck my analog thermometer into the melt, which cooled and froze the thermometer in place. 20 minutes later on the stove it melted just enough for me to remove the thermometer and regroup.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211212/044cdf0d182ab22404bcccb72a7fdf71.jpg
Can in pan on Coleman stove. Doesn’t help that the pan is warped and only a small part of the rim of the can was touching.


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Wilderness
12-12-2021, 04:00 PM
A suggestion is to try a piece of pipe with a pipe cap on one end. That way you could choose exactly the height and diameter to suit your purpose. A little welding, if available, will help to make it more stable and add handles.

A friend made my pot out of a cut off Fordson tractor cylinder liner, with a round piece of 3/8" plate for the bottom - the latter was scrap from when a round hole was cut in a sheet. Plus handles. Later, another friend put a strip of extra metal around the bottom plate to ensure complete coverage of my electric element.

imashooter2
12-12-2021, 07:17 PM
Thanks for all the suggestions. This is only for occasional use to try to check calibration of temperature measuring devices. I have other pots, big burners and 2 Lee 4-20’s for real use.
Not even sure if my calibration idea will work.

I tried a seamless can, burnt off the plastic liner.
But using a catch pan in case the can failed limited heat transfer and the lead barely melted.
I had split a 5lb plumbers ingot in half and stuck them in the can. I used my torch to melt the upper ingot and then stuck my analog thermometer into the melt, which cooled and froze the thermometer in place. 20 minutes later on the stove it melted just enough for me to remove the thermometer and regroup.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211212/044cdf0d182ab22404bcccb72a7fdf71.jpg
Can in pan on Coleman stove. Doesn’t help that the pan is warped and only a small part of the rim of the can was touching.


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Put a 1/4 inch of lead in the pan to transfer the heat.

mjwcaster
12-12-2021, 07:20 PM
Put a 1/4 inch of lead in the pan to transfer the heat.

That is kind of my plan. I just need to empty one of my pots a bit, it has a couple inches of lead I it now, probably enough to float the can.
It’s my old casting pot, now my preheat pot for the 4-20’s.


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georgerkahn
12-12-2021, 08:49 PM
I'd go to a Salvation Army or similar thrift store and seek out an old percolator/stove-top coffee maker. The ones I've seen are rather heavy stainless; have handles; and... surely are both tall enough as well as durable enough for casting purposes.
My thoughts....
Good luck!
geo

William Yanda
12-13-2021, 06:53 AM
The one quart stainless steel saucepans can be had from Walmart for about $7.

Or the same from a thrift store for $2.

country gent
12-14-2021, 09:50 AM
A steel schedule 80 pipe cap in 3" should do all you want. you want the weld n version no threads inside. We made ladles out of them at work. good and heavy steel. cupped bottom, Are probably available at Mc Masters Carr or Graingers.

A salvaged 1 lb propane tanks could be cut off to make one but would have to be vented and cleaned before cutting.

Spoonz
12-14-2021, 05:10 PM
I recently purchased this from amazon and it is perfect for a small ingot or two, search for “ Victoria Cast Iron Sauce Pan. 0.45qt Sauce Pot Seasoned with 100% Kosher Certified Non-GMO Flaxseed Oil.”

SteveM54
12-16-2021, 05:29 PM
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I was at a sale a couple of weeks ago & thought about buying this for lead melting but didn't. Do you want me to see if he still has it? It's sitting next to a Lee 10lb pot if your trying to figure size