35 Remington ?

[iron brigade]

Have marlin 336A on the way in 35 rem. It is a waffle top made in 1950. This will be my new to me cast bullet deer rifle. Anyway my question has to do with gas checks at hunting velocity. Bullet will be a 200 grainer and at what velocity does the bullet need a check?
I hunt in the woods and my shots are pretty close.

I'm not new to casting or reloading, been at it since the '80s just new to the 35. Also looking for load data and on game performance with this cartridge.
Hoping to have some good discussion.

[gunseller]

First question is are you going to pc bullets? Next is how smooth is the barrel? I have pushed a 45/70 flat based bullet over 2000fps with no problems. The way things are for powder what do you have for powder? I use IMR 3031.
Steve

[iron brigade]

Hi Steve
I have 3031, H4895, 4227, 4759 and others. Hi tek coating. Bore looks excellent from the pics.

[imashooter2]

My experience is conventionally lubed boolits are just easier with checks after you pass 1,400 fps.

[Mk42gunner]

iron brigade, I have your rifle's twin sister. Unfortunately, I don't have much experience with cast in it, I hurt my back shortly after getting it and haven't done much with it.

The RCBS 200 FN or the Lee clone of it are supposed to be the bee's knee's for the .35 Remington. I would put a gas check on it and use a good lube, (I use FWFL myself).

From working with another 336CS, 3031 is a decent powder but H335 worked better for me with the Hornady 200gr RN.

There used to be a long thread on the Marlinowner's website regarding the .35 Remington, I found a lot of useful information there.

Good Luck maybe next year we can compare results.

Robert

[wolfdog]

I have a 70s 336 in 35rem. Shoot a 215 grn GC at 1800 fps with benchmark or IMR4064. On game performance on deer had been outstanding.

[iron brigade]

Thanks guys.
I do have h335, 5744, 4064
Looking forward to hunting speed beef with the 35.

[Winger Ed.]

My experience is conventionally lubed boolits are just easier with checks after you pass 1,400 fps.

That's where I'm at.
I've read & heard here and there that some barrel leading is caused by the high flame temps. associated with higher speeds.
A small amount of the lead at the base of a boolit is vaporized into a mist and some is left on the inside of the barrel.
I've noticed pitting on the back end of recovered boolits that I think support this idea.
The gas check, since it melts at a higher temp. prevents that.

[HD.375]

That's where I'm at.
I've read & heard here and there that some barrel leading is caused by the high flame temps. associated with higher speeds.
A small amount of the lead at the base of a boolit is vaporized into a mist and some is left on the inside of the barrel.
I've noticed pitting on the back end of recovered boolits that I think support this idea.
The gas check, since it melts at a higher temp. prevents that.

Thanks for this explination makes sense, specifically with the 303 im tryin to work out..... possibly just gas check issue..or lack of, an using varget to push the 180s..... lead lead lead

[iron brigade]

iron brigade, I have your rifle's twin sister. Unfortunately, I don't have much experience with cast in it, I hurt my back shortly after getting it and haven't done much with it.

The RCBS 200 FN or the Lee clone of it are supposed to be the bee's knee's for the .35 Remington. I would put a gas check on it and use a good lube, (I use FWFL myself).

From working with another 336CS, 3031 is a decent powder but H335 worked better for me with the Hornady 200gr RN.

There used to be a long thread on the Marlinowner's website regarding the .35 Remington, I found a lot of useful information there.

Good Luck maybe next year we can compare results.

Robert

Hi Robert
Yes hopefully we can compare notes. Sold my 270 bdl and am going old school. I will most likely start out with the lee mold. Want to slug the bore first. Brass is proving difficult to find. So yeah I'm excited to work with the old girl. Had a 10 point buck in the back yard the other day chasing a Doe. Gets the blood pumping, this year I'll be taking my 1895 cowboy in 45-70 and 405 grain boolits. I really don't want to hunt with it for fear of scratching it up. Anyway the 35 will be my deer gun next year.

[725]

There was a fella here on the site that made 35 Rem from .308 Win. Unfortunately, he has passed, but it shows that it can be done. I've never made that conversion, so I'm no help. Perhaps others can chime in.

[MT Gianni]

I have a 1950 Marlin in 35 Rem. I shoot a 245 gr Saeco and IMR 4895. Previous owner used the RCBS 250. I think if you keep velocities under 1400 fps you are OK without GC. I wouldn't hunt at that low of a velocity.

[wolfdog]

I have a 1950 Marlin in 35 Rem. I shoot a 245 gr Saeco and IMR 4895. Previous owner used the RCBS 250. I think if you keep velocities under 1400 fps you are OK without GC. I wouldn't hunt at that low of a velocity.

I am not convinced that low of a velocity is bad. I've killed deer at 70 yards with a 148grn button nosed wadcutter at 1300fps. And a deer this year with a 158 (162 grn as cast) bullet at 109 yards and 1500fps. I also shoot a 38-55, 255grn bullet at 1600fps and have done well. I'm not certain that 1400fps with a 250grn bullet is all that bad.

[Tripplebeards]

I use a GC and PC on a 200 grain HP at 2100 fps along with 40 grains of varget. You can see my group I shot with it in my avatar. Knocks deer off their feet. I have an old post from last year with photos of the holes it made in and out on a whitetail.

[iron brigade]

Thanks guys.
Triple beards I have read that post of yours. Massive wound channel.
Very impressive!

[ABJ]

I load for 3 Marlin 336 in 35 Rem. Max for me on plain base is 1300/1400. I have never tried a GC design without a check.
We use the Lee 200. Two rifles prefer 5744 at around 1800 and the third prefers 4759 around the same speed. Truth be told, not a lot of difference in either load. One of the three has to use Hornady cases or trim the length down on federals, shorter chamber I think.
I do not remember the 4759 load and I think the 5744 is 19.0 plus or minus but check a load manual first.
Tony

[gunarea]

Hey iron
My 336 is a Marlin centennial issue. Hunted with it for fifty years. Loaded everything from a 95gr JHP to 250gr JSP. The RCBS 200gr is hands down, the deer and hog getter. Hundreds of deer, never lost one, most never got up. 1700 to 1800fps puts Florida deer down with no need for a follow up shot. My slug carries a gc and soft lube. Never experimented much because the need did not exist. My long shots are all less than 150yds. The brush here in Florida makes open sights most useful. In the hands of others, I have seen deer taken at 247 steps with this combo. Lyman #2 alloy, or a tad softer, does just fine on deer. Have used IMR 3031, 4064, 4350 and played with Hercules 2400. Deer are easy! Big hogs need a bit harder slug and often a second hit to avoid having to track them down.
What I can add, the Lee collet sizing die is a must get item. No more case lube, no more dented case shoulders. So much better than hand lubing, no grunting through die size process, no case lube to remove, longer case life. Wish this had been available when I started. Also, the collet crimp is an improvement from standard seat/crimp dies. Adds a step in the loading process but almost goof proof. Haven't killed anything in years, got old and lazy. My rifle has aged beautifully and a grandson is waiting patiently to own it. The boy has been killing with it a few times and they look good together. Your rifle does not have micro groove and probably not as fussy for proper sizing. Best of skill to you.
Roy

[iron brigade]

Great posts guys. After having several deer run 150-200 yards after double lung shots with Hornady bullets that blow up, I'm done with that nonsense.

Good to know the 35 with cast is so effective. I have a 38 special so got a couple molds for plinking loads.

[rjathon]

I have used Remington 200 gr round nose bullets and every shot was DRT.

I then tried Hornady 180 gr SSP bullets at a reduced load and got DRT with significantly less recoil.

[cwlongshot]

I have a few good bullets. Those RCBS 210 as wellas the LEE/ NOE copies are awesome choices. I like a NOE 360-197 bullet. It looks more like a traditional 35 Rem RN plus has option of cup & HP.

I powdercoat and have seen no use of a GC up to 2200 fps. Thats fast for a 35 Rem. Under 2000 is closer to reality.

I am and have been wanting a newer single shot in 35 Rem. I had a H&R that I re chambered to 356. Love ta find a CVA or Traditions. If henry would so chamber Id have one tomorrow. The 357 could be re chambered but twist would be wrong. 350 Legend is another that would re chamber but its a 9mm bbl.

I have a couple old Marlins and love them. My oldie is a mid '50's SC with 3/4 mag tube. Not drilled. My lil Marauder is a favorite.

CW

https://noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/358/360-197-rn-al2/

[Hickok]

Iron Brigade, many years ago, I have taken deer and wild hogs with both the Hornady 200 gr RN and the Sierra 200 gr RN in .35 Remington T/C Contender 14" and in a 336 Marlin. Never found a bullet, complete pass-throughs, and quick kills.

But, if I still had a .35 Remington, (sold both but regret it), I would use a good cast boolit!

[Soundguy]

Once I get north of about 1600 fps. I usually like a check.. if I don't have a checked mold.. I will up the bhn a hair.. but for stuff in the 1800-2400 range.. I really want a gas check if I can.. and the correct good bhn

[cwlongshot]

Thats one of the benefits if Powder Coat.

Softer alloys for faster speeds.

$$& time saved by NOT needing a Gas Check. (As often).

One thing I will say. If a mold is cut for a GC. IT GETS ONE! But because I find them more accurate this way. Not because I"need" one.

CW

[iron brigade]

Guys when I posted about the jacketed bullets blowing up it was a 270 using 130 grain bullets. I have never fired a 35 Remington but that is about to change :)

[Soundguy]

I tried powder coat..didnt like it.. It's costlier and longer as an extra step to simply using a sweeter alloy and if needed..a gas check. I discontinued shooting sabot bullets out of a muzzle loader because of all the things to clean out of a barrel.. Plastic is the hardest. Some may love it... I'm not a fan.

[cwlongshot]

You STILL gotta buy lube (or fixins) and EXPENSIVE gas checks.

So "costly" or "expensive" is HORSE PUCKY!

Too long?!?! Really!?!? So someone else installs your GC's and sizes your bullets huh. You dont read the paper or smoke a cigarette/pipe or drink coffee?!? 20 min relax time waitin for the oven ta bake them is a time wasting contraption strenious contraption to watch. ;)

You dont WANT TO. But thats fine too. I know I know the old horse n water thing.

[Smoke4320]

35 Rem amd 358 rem seem to love the RCBS 35-200 FN bullet. Accurate and hard hitting.
PC and run to 2000 fps without a GC. Above 2000 add a check for better accuracy

[Prodigal Son]

291782My Remington 141 circa 1940, RCBS 200 GC Ben's Red lube@ 1800 knocks them down! Shot was 60 yards front on to the shoulder went all the way through exiting the left side just in front of the left hip!

[Soundguy]

You STILL gotta buy lube (or fixins) and EXPENSIVE gas checks.

So "costly" or "expensive" is HORSE PUCKY!

Too long?!?! Really!?!? So someone else installs your GC's and sizes your bullets huh. You dont read the paper or smoke a cigarette/pipe or drink coffee?!? 20 min relax time waitin for the oven ta bake them is a time wasting contraption strenious contraption to watch. ;)

You dont WANT TO. But thats fine too. I know I know the old horse n water thing.

Lube is way cheaper than powder coat supplies and gear... I can make up a lifetime supply of lube for the price of 2 pounds of good powder.. Let alone the gun and oven.
Gas checking costs no time..happens when I lube and size. No cook time.

So..not horse lucky.

By the way..the cheap powder coat powders don't work great...
I'm not retired... And I don't smoke. If I'm drinking coffee..its because I'm working. I'm not relaxing at home on the dole... I work 3 jobs. Setting and watching bullets bake ain't happening for me.

Keep insulting me.. With the horse comments. I've added you to my ignore list. Problem solved

[white eagle]

If your mold is cut for a check use one
no sense in going without one and they tend to be more accurate
nothing beats a flat smooth base to a cast boolit
forget velocity concentrate on accuracy cast boolit is useless when you miss the mark
accuracy first then push the speed if you need to that way you have a benchmark to work from
best

[Prodigal Son]

Really, velocity is not important as White Eagle says! I got over the speed obsession years ago, thus the use of cast boolits! As long as it's not fouling the bore, shoot and eat!

[iron brigade]

291782My Remington 141 circa 1940, RCBS 200 GC Ben's Red lube@ 1800 knocks them down! Shot was 60 yards front on to the shoulder went all the way through exiting the left side just in front of the left hip!

Now that's what I'm talking about��
I was looking for a 141 when the marlin came along. I was quite smitten with the 336A and the 35 cartridge.
Thanks for posting

[cwlongshot]

Lube is way cheaper than powder coat supplies and gear... I can make up a lifetime supply of lube for the price of 2 pounds of good powder.. Let alone the gun and oven.
Gas checking costs no time..happens when I lube and size. No cook time.

So..not horse lucky.

By the way..the cheap powder coat powders don't work great...
I'm not retired... And I don't smoke. If I'm drinking coffee..its because I'm working. I'm not relaxing at home on the dole... I work 3 jobs. Setting and watching bullets bake ain't happening for me.

Keep insulting me.. With the horse comments. I've added you to my ignore list. Problem solved
I have insulted no one my friend.

You have been misinformed. But you sound fine with that.

More power to you my friend. Trying to share something where the benefits far out weigh the process. I realize all things don't fit all people.

Would you like to try some PC bullets? I will happily send them to you.

CW

[iron brigade]

Never tried PC but recently started playing with hi tek coating, it is excellent. I'm going to buy a accurate mold with 2 different boolit designs.

One cavity will be the 358315 and the other one will be the rcbs 35-200 copy. I find it interesting that you can run a boolit that fast with accuracy and no leading. That powder coat must be harder than wood pecker lips. I might have to dabble in PC some time.

[Prodigal Son]

You are most welcome, came by it after a friend talked me out of my 1951 Marlin rifle in 35 Remington Ballard groove riflin, waffle top! Shoots amazing groups!

[RU shooter]

If all you have is a plain base bullet , and hopefully is a wide flat nose shape dong be too worried about max speed with it , lots of deer have been killed with a 357 mag handgun at similar speeds . Develop a solid accurate load put a hole though both lungs and out the other side and you’ll have a dead deer

[cwlongshot]

If all you have is a plain base bullet , and hopefully is a wide flat nose shape dong be too worried about max speed with it , lots of deer have been killed with a 357 mag handgun at similar speeds . Develop a solid accurate load put a hole though both lungs and out the other side and you’ll have a dead deer
Yup thats the bottom line!! ♥️♥️

[Mk42gunner]

291782My Remington 141 circa 1940, RCBS 200 GC Ben's Red lube@ 1800 knocks them down! Shot was 60 yards front on to the shoulder went all the way through exiting the left side just in front of the left hip!
Your picture brings to mind one of my biggest regrets from the late 1980's. I turned down the chance to buy a very nice condition Model 14 in .35 Remington for $189.

Doesn't sound like much money these days, but to put it in perspective, that was two thirds of a brand new S&W Model 586. Or half of a mid fifties Chevy pickup.

Robert

[Prodigal Son]

Mine was marked $495. I traded a superposed 20 ga Valmet shotgun for it!

[cwlongshot]

I have a early short barrel W/ factory perp Remington 14 in 35 rem myself. Cherished rifle!! I use the 1950's 760 more.

CW

[Rapier]

I run PCed 35 200s in the 357 Super Mag, 358 MGP and the 35 Whelen rifles to 2,400-2,600 without a GC. RCBS discontinued the plain base 200, years ago, but Saeco still makes a mold in the 200g RCBS plain base. I just PC the bullets then bake nose down in a hardware cloth box to solid coat the base and bearing surface. I size to grove diameter using case lube.
I buy my powder coat material from an auto parts coating, material supply house. I also prefer black for my bullets.

3031 is a very good powder in the 30-30 capacity size cases as is Unique and 4227. I use 1680 in the MGP a 6.8 necked up for the AR.

[NEKVT]

I have a 1952 336SC. It likes the RCBS 35-200-FN with 36.0 H-4895.

[iron brigade]

Thanks for the load data. Would you happen to know the velocity of that load? I'm looking for about 1850 fps. Pc is starting to peek my interest. Might just have to try some.

[NEKVT]

Haven't chronographed it but comparing it to listed jacketed loads should be about factory load level 1950-2000.

[Good Cheer]

No .35 paper patches?

[iron brigade]

Thought I would post a pic of the marlin. I slugged the bore and best I could measure it's right at .358.
Rifle came with a vintage weaver 4x marksman scope and Williams mount. I added a Williams fp peep.

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[iron brigade]

Another thing I wanted to add was how simple it is to remove the lever, bolt and ejector to clean the bore from the rear of the rifle.

I am currently seeking a mold for the old girl. Still debating whether I want to hunt with the peep or the scope on it. Rifle weighs 7.3 lbs with out it and 8.2 with.

Will most likely shoot it both ways to see. I hunt in the woods and seeing the sights proved challenging in dim light. I do realize It is not a pristine example of a 336 waffle top but I bought it to hunt with and enjoy.
At first I thought about replacing the butt plate but decided I might like the decelerater pad.

[imashooter2]

Back when they drilled that rifle it was just another 336 and the scope was upgrading it. Just because we wouldn’t do something today doesn’t mean it was a sin. Congratulations on a nice rifle.

[iron brigade]

Thank you sir!

[Mk42gunner]

Back when they drilled that rifle it was just another 336 and the scope was upgrading it. Just because we wouldn’t do something today doesn’t mean it was a sin. Congratulations on a nice rifle.
Wise words. They also apply to each and every one of the sporters built on Surplus rifles, whether by a skilled craftsman or by Bubba.

Marlin sure wasn't shy about adding wood to these rifles, where they?

The more I handle my own 336A, the more it makes me wonder just why the lever action rifle died out in favor of the carbine.

The Decelerator might not be a bad choice, the .35 Remington seems to be a considerable step up from the .30-30 in the recoil department.

Robert

[iron brigade]

The more I handle my own 336A, the more it makes me wonder just why the lever action rifle died out in favor of the carbine.

No doubt. The rifle has a nice balance and comes up to my shoulder smoothly.
I have a question about the Lee 35-200 boolit... Some say that the nose shank of the boolit is large. Can someone measure that for me?

Granted not all molds are the same and different alloy ECT. But it would give me some sort of idea.

[rbuck351]

My rifle is an old M81 Rem, probably built in the early 20s. I use the RCBS 358 200 w/ GC and IMR 3031 jacketed bullet load data. It shoots 2 1/2" or a bit less at 100yds with Iron sights. I use home made aluminum GCs and FWFL with no leading. I haven't shot anything with it yet. Too many other guns that need field time.

[iron brigade]

I think the 81 was produced in the 1930's. You probably have a model 8. Finding a rcbs 358-200 is proving difficult. Bid on one yesterday but didn't win.

[rbuck351]

You are quite correct. Why I said M81 I don't know. My dad got the rifle from his uncle about 1925 and it was used then. If you can find the Lee copy of the RCBS 358 200, it is a very close copy if not exact. I got lucky 6 or 7 years ago and got a Lee 6 cavity copy so now have both.

[Kosh75287]

Never reloaded for .35 Remington, so I'm WAY out of my element, here. It looks like H4895 will work in it just fine, so using the "60% rule" with it to work up loads for 200 gr. or 220 gr. very hard-cast projectiles might minimize the need for gas checks.
I'd check with Hodgdon on THIS part, but H335 also (apparently) works in .35 Remington. It might also be reduced to deliver moderate velocities with cast bullets.

[iron brigade]

I do have the Hodgdon manual as well as most of the other ones and have both of those powders to try.

The Lee six cavity mold is available and I have several of them in other calibers. But in measuring the slug I would need the nose section at about .350 just after the front band

Who knows maybe I'll get a mold for Christmas:)

[pls1911]

If you have a bullet designed fr a gas check, use it. It's cheap insurance and takes a lot of guess work out of your cast bullet loadings.
In .30/30, .32, and .35, routinely run whatever is in the pot segregate by weight, run 1800FPS with any of the powders listed, and NEVER have a trace of lead.
Many, many of these rounds have been shot in IHMSA competition as well as hunting.

[NEKVT]

Back when they drilled that rifle it was just another 336 and the scope was upgrading it. Just because we wouldn’t do something today doesn’t mean it was a sin. Congratulations on a nice rifle.

This is the 1952 336SC 35 Rem referenced in my load post above. When I got it 7yrs ago the Waffle top had been machined off and it was D/T'd for the scope base and rings still on it. Came with a damaged Weaver K3 with post and crosshair that I replaced with the exact model. Got it to shoot and hunt so not concerned about collectability and the missing Waffle which made the cost very reasonable.

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[txcaster]

Congrats on an excellent rifle and caliber choice!

I have an old 336 in35 and have fed my family with it for some time now. I shoot 200 grain cast with IMR 4895 and the last time I chrono'd it they were going just over 2K with a gas check. Pretty simple, basic load.

It kills deer and hogs like a lightning bolt. It doesn't tear up whole shoulders either. Leaves blood trails a blind man could follow.

I'm actually thinking of bumping up to a 225 grain....

[Eddie Southgate]

Congrats on an excellent rifle and caliber choice!

I have an old 336 in35 and have fed my family with it for some time now. I shoot 200 grain cast with IMR 4895 and the last time I chrono'd it they were going just over 2K with a gas check. Pretty simple, basic load.

It kills deer and hogs like a lightning bolt. It doesn't tear up whole shoulders either. Leaves blood trails a blind man could follow.

I'm actually thinking of bumping up to a 225 grain....

Reread your post. Other than doing the 225 for yuks , why ? What do you expect to get from the 225 that you are not already getting from the 200 ? I would guess the only thing you will gain is a new mold and a tad more recoil . Why mess with perfection .:bigsmyl2:

[txcaster]

Well...yuks mainly. I use the Lee 200 mold and I'm thinking of an Accurate mold, so why not bump up to something a little bigger?

You do have a good point about perfection though....

[iron brigade]

Hey TX
What accurate mold are you looking at? Thanks for the great post btw.
That Lee 200 grainer seems to be a good one. I'm trying to find a rcbs 35-200 but not having any luck. I think Lee, accurate and noe all make a suitable candidate.

Wanted to shoot the 336 tomorrow but a dang snow storm just started. Maybe Sunday. Glad to hear the 35 thumps deer so well. :)

[MT Gianni]

Reread your post. Other than doing the 225 for yuks , why ? What do you expect to get from the 225 that you are not already getting from the 200 ? I would guess the only thing you will gain is a new mold and a tad more recoil . Why mess with perfection .:bigsmyl2:

I may not consider it perfection but my Ballard rifled Marlin loves the RCBS 250 and the 245 Saeco 352. If you stop looking you may assume what your best is so far to be perfection.

[cwlongshot]

I may not consider it perfection but my Ballard rifled Marlin loves the RCBS 250 and the 245 Saeco 352. If you stop looking you may assume what your best is so far to be perfection.
Amen!!

[gumbo333]

Not to hijack this but has anyone gotten the Feb Guns mag and read John Taffins article on loading cast bullets in a Marlin 336, 35 Rem with micro grove rifling. I realize Mr Taffin is a very respected firearms writer/ tester. Maybe he should stick to handguns as I don't think he has a clue about micro grove rifles. Not a mention about bullet diameter. Just powder and length. Nice pictures though.

[iron brigade]

You're not hijacking, will have to go to the local fleet farm and check out the magazine.
Nice farmall, use to have one and had many a good afternoon on it.

[gumbo333]

Iron B, just a pic of an old M. Mine is a '40. Doesn't look that good, has a wide front, a farmhand loader with 8' bucket on it. Switched to 12 v. Always starts. Snow removal or portable scaffold/ window washer. The old days!

[todd9.3x57]

I may not consider it perfection but my Ballard rifled Marlin loves the RCBS 250 and the 245 Saeco 352. If you stop looking you may assume what your best is so far to be perfection.

i have a win 94 in 35/30 that was made by JES. i was going to go with the 270gr fn gc bullshop stomper, just to give the heavyweights a try. but i didn't because of the 200gr rcbs fn gc. i use 2400/tuft of dacron going at 1726fps and it sure kills deer. well, sort of. i have only shot 2 deer, 1 doe and one fork horn. they ran, but it was 20ish yards(doe) and 10ish(buck)yards. the doe was 25ish yards and the fork horn was at 50ish yards. i have found the boolit that werks.

[MT Gianni]

Todd, you have no need to change what works for you. I bought this rifle from a friend who worked up heavy bullets for a hog hunt and was super pleased with how they grouped. Two dead deer with two shots needs no adjustment.

[txcaster]

I'm looking at the Accurate 35-220, either A, B, or C... havent made my mind up yet...Love that wide meplat. Its bound to leave a mark on wild hogs and deer. And whatever else..

[cwlongshot]

I'm looking at the Accurate 35-220, either A, B, or C... havent made my mind up yet...Love that wide meplat. Its bound to leave a mark on wild hogs and deer. And whatever else..
Take a look at the NOE 360-232 if your lookin. Its a dandy. But I have to say some claim difficulties feeding in a Marlin. Mine feeds it.

CW

[txcaster]

It looks like NOE is sold out of pretty much all of them with the gas check...it is a good looking bullet tho....

[Beaverhunter2]

Thats one of the benefits if Powder Coat.

Softer alloys for faster speeds.

$$& time saved by NOT needing a Gas Check. (As often).

One thing I will say. If a mold is cut for a GC. IT GETS ONE! But because I find them more accurate this way. Not because I"need" one.

CW
I agree. I'm getting 2300fps with 12Bhn RMR Core Lead with PC. And I've always gas checked boolits designed for them.

John

[cwlongshot]

They just always shot just a lil more accurate for me. But when compaired to a PB of same design with the few I have removed gc shank. Little is any accuracy difference and then when there was it was more accurate. IMHO the increased surface contact is adding stability.

Im gonna be removing some from my 35 cal molds here as a winter project.

CW

[iron brigade]

Hey CW...
Been watching some of your videos, good stuff! Great tips on powder coating, like the tip using lava rocks in the convection oven.

Have you tested any of the 35 hp rifle boolits in media? Old phone books ECT?

[gunther]

The OP was looking for brass, too. The only way I've ever seen 35 Remington brass was in the trash can or on the ground at the local range, or as loaded ammunition. Been a scrounger for nearly 50 years. 35 Remington is hard to find.

[iron brigade]

That is true
A member on here was kind enough to sell me some. But I'm always on the look out for more...have any??:)

[txcaster]

I recently bought some from Graf and Sons, and also Mid South but they're currently out....you might try them periodically.

[cwlongshot]

Hey CW...
Been watching some of your videos, good stuff! Great tips on powder coating, like the tip using lava rocks in the convection oven.

Have you tested any of the 35 hp rifle boolits in media? Old phone books ECT?. Thanks man!!

Yes I have!! It takes quite a bit of trial and error. Looking for the proper alloy and velocity. Everything affects something else. So I arrive at a velocity I want first. And then I develop a load that's accurate at that velocity. And then I work with different harnesses of my alloy to achieve the expansion that I'm looking for at that velocity. Sometimes load changes need to be made because different harnesses can shoot differently. But it's all fun and I've worked out a number of these for a number of my bullets.

[35 Rem]

Just wanted to mention my experience with the 35 Remington and cast. This was my 1st rifle to try using cast for deer so was a bit hesitant to even try it until I read on this board how others were having success doing so. Anyhow, went with an Accurate mold. 36-200A It has a nice wide meplate that hits deer hard. It feeds in my mid 70's Marlin 336 but did not feed in a friends Winchester 94 in 356 Win. I did run into one problem with the bullet and that is the front driving band jamming into the rifling causing it to be real hard to close the action. I have to trim cases .010 under the Min trim length to make it work. The band now just "kisses" the rifling but is fully functional. Accurate must have found this to be a common problem because they now offer a variation of the bullet with the driving band moved rearward .020. (36-200AS)

I've never tried real low velocities so can't speak to where you start needing a gas check. To my mind, the 35 Remington operates at low enough velocity that you can get the full power potential of the cartridge with cast so why not push it to the limit? I've mostly used IMR 4320 at full Jacketed bullet load levels and this chronographs at 2,070 ft/sec in my carbine. Have only shot 3 deer so far but it has truly impressed me with how hard it hits them. The loud audible THUMP of bullet impact surprised me when I shot the 1st deer and it has been very noticeable on all 3. Unfortunately my alloy isn't exactly known as it's some I got off of Ebay years ago and not something I smelted down myself. But it's definitely not any harder than wheel weights and is air cooled. I've also cast another batch using the popular 50/50 CoWW/pure Lead plus 1 or 2% Tin with the same accuracy. The rifle easily shoots into an inch or so at 100 yards. Way better than I ever thought a l ever action could shoot.

[iron brigade]

Great post 35 rem.
I did finally shoot my marlin, imashooter2 was gracious enough to send me several hundred bullets to try. I had installed a Williams peep on the rifle and was warned that it would shoot high. It did, right over the target.

So I moved the target to 50 yards, and it was shooting high. Several loads were shooting well, H335 and 3031. I did get a lee six cavity mold from my son for Christmas, so will be a couple months before I cast some up.

Recoil and muzzle blast were pretty mild. I might put the scope on or a marbles higher front sight.
If I can get 2" groups at 100 I'll be happy. Glad to hear the 35 thumps deer so well.

[Prodigal Son]

294130 with RCBS 200 gr GC you should do more like this @100 than 2" groups! Good luck and welcome to the club!

[iron brigade]

I have some rl-7, going to have to try that load. Good shooting prodigal son!

[lolbell]

If henry would so chamber Id have one tomorrow.

CW

https://noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/358/360-197-rn-al2/

Henry chambers their new side gate models in 35Rem. Now is not a good time to be looking for one, but they are cataloged.

[cwlongshot]

Henry chambers their new side gate models in 35Rem. Now is not a good time to be looking for one, but they are cataloged.


Thanks man! Im wanting the single shot.

CW

[Good Cheer]

Maybe get a Henry single shot .357, rechamber it and fix the extractor?
They use the same 16" twist as Marlin has in .35 Remington.
Being a single shot you could avoid the short dimension from case mouth to rifling, get it extended to not have boolits pushing down into the powder space.

[Earl54]

I wanted a 35 rem. but all my guns are single shots( rifles that i hunt with) and i like a rim. Building a barrel for an NEF frame, cutting a standard chamber with a rim cut for a 303 british. Headspace is the same as factory 35 rem ammo so i could use factory ammo if needed. Barrel in progress now, will be 20 inches long. All a man can do is try - we will see how it works.

[cwlongshot]

Thats likely what Ill do good Cheer!!

[Cosmic_Charlie]

How are the vintage Remington Fourteens? Do they feed well?

[ammohead]

I have a 1950 Marlin in 35 Rem. I shoot a 245 gr Saeco and IMR 4895. Previous owner used the RCBS 250. I think if you keep velocities under 1400 fps you are OK without GC. I wouldn't hunt at that low of a velocity.

Gianni,
How's that old girl doing. I have fond memories of her.

[Duckiller]

Iron Bridge your K4 Weaver may be a little too powerful. Had similar scope on a 30/06 when hunting in New Hampshire while in the Army, years ago. Any way a 8 point buck tried to over run me. It had been flushed out and slowly came down ahill and didn't see me. I just stood and waited. It stoped at about15-20 feet. Don't think it ever saw me. Put the scope on it and all I saw was brown. Moved it left and right as much as I dared. Nothing but brown. Guessed at his center and pulled the trigger. 180 gr Rem Cor-Locs in the body dropped him right now. A K2.5 might give you a wider view and work better in you area.
I have a 35 Rem in a 1913 Model 8. Do not have a mold for a heavy hunting boolit. Load 158 gr SWC for fun shooting, not sure of powder charge. For hunting bullets I load IMR 4064 under a jacketed 200 gr RN. Use a medium charge from manual. Good accuracy. Prior to this shortage I found a couple bags of new brass at a local reloading supply store. Keep looking, its out there or will be in the future. Good luck with your new gun.

[iron brigade]

Duckiller, you may very well be right. I am looking at one of the marbles front sights.
Your deer story reminds me of my brother one year out hunting with his 270.
8 point buck comes in at about 15 yards and he shoots it and then says to me ! Couldn't find it in the scope.

I said what power is it on, 9 he says. Well there you go, put it on 3 you dip stick.
I did by some once fired cases from no1 so now I have over 100.
Should last me a while. I am working up some loads just waiting for it to warm up.

[Eddie Southgate]

How are the vintage Remington Fourteens? Do they feed well?

Mine (1921) works just fine . It's a .32 Remington , my .35 is a 141 from 1936 .

[unclemikeinct]

I wanted a 35 rem. but all my guns are single shots( rifles that i hunt with) and i like a rim. Building a barrel for an NEF frame, cutting a standard chamber with a rim cut for a 303 british. Headspace is the same as factory 35 rem ammo so i could use factory ammo if needed. Barrel in progress now, will be 20 inches long. All a man can do is try - we will see how it works.

I like your "Style" That is the kind of thinking that "Makes America Great ! " Please post some pics & share. unclemikeinct

[Beerd]

I wanted a 35 rem. but all my guns are single shots( rifles that i hunt with) and i like a rim. Building a barrel for an NEF frame, cutting a standard chamber with a rim cut for a 303 british. Headspace is the same as factory 35 rem ammo so i could use factory ammo if needed. Barrel in progress now, will be 20 inches long. All a man can do is try - we will see how it works.

what you need is a set of 35 Rem reloading dies,a piece of 30-40 Krag brass and Imperial Sizing Wax.
run the lubed brass through the sizing die and presto, 35 Rem Rimmed Long Neck!
..

[Earl54]

what you need is a set of 35 Rem reloading dies,a piece of 30-40 Krag brass and Imperial Sizing Wax.
run the lubed brass through the sizing die and presto, 35 Rem Rimmed Long Neck!
..

303 and 30/40 krag have the same rim and base diameters within a couple of thou. and I have 1000 once fired 303 (winchester brass cases).

[PHyrbird]

There seems a lot of chat @ single shots; I REALLY like the Contender Super 14, or the carbine of 16" or longer. My early S14 bbl was factory hand lapped & is startling at 100yd. So good I have a scope on it. Of course a scoped Remington Model 81 will also ring an 8" gong at 185yd. ;~D
Another option is a Rem M760. They are way more accurate than most 742s, the action after all is manual. Another of my favorites.... They will handle longer OAL with heavy boolits up to 220g. If you are comfortable with pump guns they are swift with the 2nd shot too.